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I agree but there is no denying that the majority of Americans and Democrats do not want Joe Biden running for president.
It's the reason Kennedy is polling at 19% and Williamson at 9%
Sadly the DNC will make sure he is the candidate at all costs even if they sacrifice the democratic process

Do you honestly think that the Democratic party would be well-served by nominating either of those idiots? Both are unqualified, both are crazy, and both would be guaranteed to lose by historic margins. And that's exactly why you are enamored with the idea of them running for president.

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04-30-2023 , 12:53 AM

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I agree but there is no denying that the majority of Americans and Republicans do not want Trump running for president.
It's the reason Desantis is polling at 23% and Pence (of "HANG MIKE PENCE!" fame) at 7%.
Sadly the RNC will make sure he is the candidate at all costs, since their party's survival depends on sacrificing the democratic process.

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04-30-2023 , 02:26 AM

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It's the reason Kennedy is polling at 19% and Williamson at 9%
Sadly the DNC will make sure he is the candidate at all costs even if they sacrifice the democratic process

19+9=28.
28< (100-28) I think, but I am drunk right now.

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04-30-2023 , 09:26 AM

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Actually the opposite the RNC wants someone else besides Trump

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04-30-2023 , 09:29 AM

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They said that about Trump also .
Not sure what they stand for because you don't get to hear from them except on Fox so far .

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04-30-2023 , 10:36 AM

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Looks like the old winning team is getting back together.

"Steve Bannon has nothing to do with me or my presidency," Trump said. "When he was fired, he not only lost his job, he lost his mind.

"Steve was a staffer who worked for me after I had already won the nomination by defeating seventeen candidates, often described as the most talented field ever assembled in the Republican party," he continued. "Now that he is on his own, Steve is learning that winning isn't as easy as I make it look."

"Steve had very little to do with our historic victory, which was delivered by the forgotten men and women of this country," Trump said in his statement. "Yet Steve had everything to do with the loss of a Senate seat in Alabama held for more than thirty years by Republicans."

Wolff quotes Bannon as saying Jared Kushner, a White House senior adviser, and Donald Trump Jr., the president's eldest son, held what amounted to a "treasonous" meeting with Russian lobbyists at Trump Tower in June 2016, the report said.

Yep, together again at last.

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04-30-2023 , 12:17 PM

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Not sure what they stand for because you don't get to hear from them except on Fox so far .

Marianne Williamson ran for president in 2020. RFK has been airing his views on politics for two decades to anyone who will listen.

Their respective political views aren't some sort of mystery.

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04-30-2023 , 12:20 PM

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They said that about Trump also

Let's be clear. Nominating Trump in 2016 was a political mistake for the GOP, and not just because he pushed the party in a crazy direction. If the Republicans had nominated a normal human in 2016, that person would have won the White House and very likely would have won in 2020 as well.

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04-30-2023 , 01:12 PM

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. If the Republicans had nominated a normal human in 2016, that person would have won the White House and very likely would have won in 2020 as well.

This is always the case for both parties in every year, but they always choose to not do so.

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04-30-2023 , 01:36 PM

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This is always the case for both parties in every year, but they always choose to not do so.

I assume you believe the elections are rigged every year (albeit not for the same party), so it doesn't matter who the nominees are.

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04-30-2023 , 01:54 PM

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"Wolff" LOL

Real authoritative source you got there dude.

By the way it's normal to provide a link with a quote if you want to be taken seriously.

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04-30-2023 , 01:58 PM

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I assume you believe the elections are rigged every year (albeit not for the same party), so it doesn't matter who the nominees are.

I think it's possible that the elections are legitimate but that both candidates always end up playing for the same team. That's probably more likely than rigged elections. The end result is still that it doesn't matter who the nominees are.

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04-30-2023 , 06:30 PM

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The GOP establishment fought tooth and nail against Trump in 2016. It was a hostile takeover, with a lot of help from the liberal MSM.

In the last 2 years, the Democrat establishment has cynically openly endorsed several pro Trump, extremist R candidates they view as weaker. IF you believe there was a political motivation to the Bragg indictments, the only sensical motivation would be to ensure Trump is the Republican candidate in 2024.

From where I am sitting it seems the Democrat establishment deserves a lot of the blame for helping pull the wheel of the Republican Party's veer into extremism.

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05-16-2023 , 02:50 AM

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05-16-2023 , 06:09 AM

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From where I am sitting it seems the Democrat establishment deserves a lot of the blame for helping pull the wheel of the Republican Party's veer into extremism.

I always enjoy the Democrat overlords are responsible for the Republican results conspiracies, as it puts the alt-right into such a beta position in how easily they can be manipulated by everyone, not just content creators of things they want to consume. The irony is that generally the alt-right people are the ones pitching this theory. Guess they all want to be whiny betas, which has some entertainment value at least. Lizard People involvement would be a bit more fun though, so hopefully they will be introduced in the near future.

All the best.

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05-16-2023 , 08:13 AM

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As I've pointed out several times now, if the Democrats were actually as organized as the right wing derposphere depicts them to be, they would never lose a national election.

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05-16-2023 , 09:51 AM

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As I've pointed out several times now, if the Democrats were actually as organized as the right wing derposphere depicts them to be, they would never lose a national election.

it reminds me of when foxnews, etc. try to fearmonger by putting up democratic party "wish list" type stuff, and it's always a bunch of progressive stuff that would be amazing but would never actually pass even with dem majorities.

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05-16-2023 , 09:52 AM

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Do you have any examples?

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05-16-2023 , 09:54 AM

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As I've pointed out several times now, if the Democrats were actually as organized as the right wing derposphere depicts them to be, they would never lose a national election.

Couldn't you say that about both parties. This next election against Biden should be easy to win yet they may go with the guy that has the worst chance of beating The Weekend at Bernie's candidate

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05-16-2023 , 09:56 AM

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Do you have any examples?

there was an AOC graphic they threw up every day for a couple weeks that said something like:

DEM STRATEGY
1. free college
2. free healthcare for all
3. abolish ICE
4. Climate change reform

i wish dems as a group were that cool.

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05-16-2023 , 09:57 AM

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Couldn't you say that about both parties. This next election against Biden should be easy to win yet they may go with the guy that has the worst chance of beating The Weekend at Bernie's candidate

I don't indulge in the fantasy that the GOP is a super-organized, super competent monolith either.

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05-16-2023 , 09:59 AM

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there was an AOC graphic they threw up every day for a couple weeks that said something like:

DEM STRATEGY
1. free college
2. free healthcare for all
3. abolish ICE
4. Climate change reform

Well there not false ? Heck some of the squad wanted to totally defund the police and eliminate prisons. I am so glad the Democrats don't highlight the crazies on the right like MTG Oh Wait

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05-16-2023 , 10:05 AM

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Well there not false ? Heck some of the squad wanted to totally defund the police and eliminate prisons. I am so glad the Democrats don't highlight the crazies on the right like MTG Oh Wait

beyond the terribly stupid attempt at a "BoTh SiDeS" the point is the republicans make the dems out to be boogeyman towards them that just dont exist

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05-16-2023 , 10:24 AM

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This is about all they have and all there will be available in 2024.

Biden and Harris can't hold speeches and forget everything. Biden is well beyond life expectany and couldn't even successfully run a kindergarten.

so it probably will be=

Biden vs Trump

where Biden loses by a landslide.

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