The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?

It's ridiculous to even offer odds on most of these people?

Yeah, for sure! Should be interesting to see how the odds change as we approach the election

Where is Oprah?

I was wondering the same thing! I wanted to see the odds for Jeff Bezos too after they mentioned the prospect of him running on the All-In podcast.

Do ya'll think Gavin Newsom is a good pick @ 16:1?

Forgetting about the odds, the names at the top seem correct. You have current Biden-Harris and most recent Trump-Pence. And after those names you have DeSantis and Newsom. That seems reasonable.

Someone has to win. I think this list contains at least one correct name for 2024 general election ticket for both parties for president or vice president. My where is person would be democratic US Senator Sherrod Brown from Ohio.

my dem president candidates with vice president idea...
Biden-Harris
Newsom with someone from east coast
Sherrod Brown with someone from AZ/NM/NV
my wild card is Beto O'Rouke at the top or bottom of ticket.

GOP has Trump and DeSantis getting so much attention of for the top of the ticket that it just ends up being who they would pick as a running mate if they don't partner together.

Trump with anyone willing to break the law for him
DeSantis from Florida getting someone to balance out the ticket and capture blue states that Biden won because Biden in 2020 won without winning Florida as shown below.

If I had to pick Democrats to bet on at these odds, I guess that I would go with Biden at +650 and some of the choices lower in the stack like Klobuchar and Booker at +10000, or Michelle Obama at +4000.

Biden is an exceptionally weak candidate, of course, but I think there is a good chance that he runs, and I think any Democrat in a general election has a 25% chance of winning. I don't think any serious Democrat will try and primary Biden if he runs.

If Biden can't run, or decides not to run, then I think the Democratic field will be very wide open. And in a very wide open field, I would rather bet on the true longshots than someone like Newsom. I doubt that Michelle Obama will run even if Biden does not run, but if she did, I think she would become the immediate favorite to win the nomination.

On the Republican side, I guess that I would bet on Desantis. He is a fundraising juggernaut and seems very serious about running no matter what Trump does. Desantis is going to promise a lot of the same policies without the buffoonery and without the Trump baggage. I have to believe that there is some Trump fatigue out there, even among the people who voted for him last time.

Of all the names on the list (except for the Shiek and Kanye), Hawley is the one that I would least like to see as President. He is much smarter than anyone named Trump, but every bit as despicable and dismissive of democracy as Donald and Don Jr. All things considered, Hawley may be the most dangerous politician in the United States right now.

Let's get morbid.

If you bet Kamala Harris, but Joe Biden ends up being the nominee and doing the heavy lifting of winning on election day...

If Joe Biden dies before the Electoral College votes, do you win with your Harris bet?

The only one that stands out to me is Biden at +650 which seems by far the best if I had to take one of those.

If 80 year old people keep running for president, this will happen eventually.

Someone please explain to me what a Biden bet would pay?

And just because the site has the action pegged at those prices does not mean someone is live and willing to take that bet, at those odds does it? Is someone really willing to take a bet on the Sheik at any odds?

What do you mean? Bovada is Bovada. It's an online sportsbook. A Biden win would pay out like any futures bet.

I'm sure Bovada would be happy to take action from anyone who wants to bet on the Shiek.

Just put my 100k down on The Iron Sheik. Twitter's gonna be mine in 2025!

Oh wait, he's not eligible to become President. Damn.

On a serious note, you think Hawley has surpassed McConnell? The latter did engineer our current SCOTUS situation and if any election case makes its way there all bets are off.

Going forward, I do.

McConnell doesn't actually want to end democracy. He just wants to manipulate it in every possible way to benefit the Republican party. That's terrible, but Hawley is worse. Hawley would be happy to dispense with democracy entirely to benefit himself. And McConnell's career is nearing an end, so there is a limit to how much more damage he can do.

Hawley is 42. He is one of the smartest people in Congress. He is one of the most ambitious people in Congress. And he is among the least principled members of Congress. I can't imagine a more toxic combination. We can only hope that he is too much of an unlikeable prick to ever make a serious run at the White House.

I'm going with Pete Buttigieg. If the Democrats finally realize they have to get away from Rule by Octogenarians, he's a logical candidate. Obviously, a lot of things would have to happen (including him beating whichever evil tool the Republicans nominate), but +2800 seems like good odds. It would be +2500 if his name were easier to spell.

In fact, the more I look at this, the more I like it. Miss Moneypenny, get me William Hill on the phone!

Well, consider that for 75 million people, being a grossly unlikable prick was actually a positive feature--twice--so I hope you're right. He'd do far, far better than he should if people voted based on fitness of the candidate for office.

The story of a clever, populist demagogue who is also stone-cold pure evil rising to the top and eventually running the show is so familiar, it's pretty much a historical as well as fictional trope. Let's face it, we have more than enough easily duped and dazzled mouth-breathers in this benighted nation to get his amoral butt elected. And the rest of him, too.

Yep. All the King's Men was written a long time ago. But sadly, I don't think we learn any better from our literature than we do from our history.

I'm confused. I thought you could always bet on either side of any line meaning I can take action versus the Sheik winning??? Or I could bet for or against Trump???

I have no familiarity with online betting or sports books. I always thought they were basically match makers for action on both sides and the sport book just took the vig. That dynamic betting odds were in play until it attracted someone to bet the other side of any bet??

You should think of sportsbooks as market makers, not brokers. For things like NFL games, sportsbooks may have close to even action on both sides, in which case they are guaranteed to make the vig, but a sportsbook theoretically could set a line in a way that almost certainly ensured that it had a large exposure.

For many props, you can only take one side of the bet. In that case, the sportsbook always has a naked exposure.

with things like this they usually only offer one side, there is probably a separate section where you could bet on both sides of the more realistic candidates but it won't be found on a smorgasboard offering like found here

but... you'd really want to tie up $50,000 for 2 years on a sportsbook to profit $1 betting the shiek?

the book would gladly accept that if you contact them directly and will often arrange bespoke lines for stuff like that - they'll happily take that money and invest it and then pay it back to you plus your $1 winnings in 2 years

Right. A sportsbook would take $10 billion in action if someone wanted to bet on the Shiek. Taking out a .001% percent loan with a two year term sounds like good business to me.

You can get FDIC insured versions of these bets with great terms. So great they let you keep your money even if you lose!

Maybe it is too soon and if he does decide to make a run, it will be when Trump (and his stink on the party) are well in the rearview mirror. But I remember a time when Cuban was getting a lot of buzz as the elusive fiscal conservative, social progressive that so many people in the middle claim to be clamoring for.

He was definitely considering making a run and then he had a ton of scandals with the Mavs. It's super unlikely he even considers running at this point.

When I look at this list, the name I think is too high up on the list is Mike Pompeo and the name I think is too low up on the list is Mitt Romney.