https://www.politico.com/story/2016/...fallout-230553


Will be an interesting debate . Might be worth watching with cutoff Mikes . Now no one will see Joe get lost walking out on stage which is great for Biden .
Sad that RFK scares Joe and bans him from being there

I thought I heard biden said he would only debate if he got to pick the network, that there would be no crowd, the mikes would shut off at certain times and there would be no RFK. If that is the case I don't think it is fair to say trump is scarred of RFK too.

This is how fascism wins.

Mitt Romney, argued that President Joe Biden should have pardoned Donald Trump.

It's insane to me that people are upset over student loan forgiveness but not the tax breaks for the rich.

Why would you pardon someone who is still actively pulling the rug out from
under Democracy…. I’m all about “The Good of the Nation”, This is not that time!

I'm sure you love the fact that your master is such a brain-addled, incontinent mess that he needs the moderators to force him to abide by normal debate rules.

Lozen repeats unfounded and discredited accusation that Biden got debate questions in advance, and when asked to provide evidence, gives a link to an article about Hillary Clinton being given possible questions in advance, and moves on. Lozen gunna Lozen.

Sorry I should have said a democrat that CNN favored received the questions from CNN in advance . My bad on screwing up whom received the questions in advance. I guess it was OK as Bernie Bad. So with that logic Trump bad give Biden the questions

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Top Republicans refuse to say that they will accept the 2024 Presidential election results

they left out one thing

they will accept them if Trump is declared the winner_____________guaran-effing-teed

they're some trashy mothereffers


https://archive.ph/R79xs


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You are describing a fictional history of education thats never existed. Before any of us were born there were all sorts of social Justice pseudo educational schools like intelligent design and lost cause mythology that only served as social justice indoctrination. It’s not like these people were well educated back when that nonsense was more common, so you’re just complaining more that that conservative indoctrination was so poorly done as to get removed.

Mitt Romney is not the wise elder stateman that he thinks he is.

#1 More than 1,350 people have been charged with federal crimes related to the Capitol riot. Over 850 of them have been sentenced, with roughly two-thirds receiving a term of imprisonment ranging from a few days to 22 years.

#2 Ford's Nixon pardon was a pivotal moment in the Ford presidency. Historians believe that the controversy was one of the major reasons that Ford lost the election in 1976, and Ford agreed with that observation.

The big difference is that tax cuts allow people to keep more of the money that THEY EARNED.

Student loans are the opposite in that they require more money to be taken from taxpayers (which of course mainly comes from the rich) and given to those who haven’t earned it.

It was the DNC, not CNN that rigged those debates.

Would u prefer pay less tax but in return u make less money in income ?

U seem to believe someone making 25k per year pay less tax than someone making more ?
Isn’t true the tax rates is the same for the first 25k earned regardless what u make at the end of the year ?
You seem to believe an educated workforce bring nothing positive to the economy ….
Fwiw any forgiveness in debt isn’t solely reserve to student loans so why make a big fuss out of it when at least it’s for something positive ?
I mean u do see education as something positive right ?

If trump doesn’t mention at some point in each debate about how the only way Biden would debate is if he got home field advantage and pick the refs each debate that would be a huge mistake. I think this should be saved for when he feels the moderator and Biden are 2 vs 1 against him. When it happens the 2nd time - he should say something like I’m playing an away game and my opponent got to hand pick the referee.

I don’t see how your first 3 questions are relevant to the conversation so my only answer is for #2: yes, most people who make 25k pay less taxes than most people who make over 25k.

I think an educated workforce is extremely valuable.

I can’t think of any tax payer forced loan forgiveness I would support, but I would love to hear some you think I should support. Student loan forgiveness is just another massive handout to the colleges and universities - it will continue to encourage kids to go to college who can’t afford it in hopes their debt will be forgiven too which in turn will continue to raise the price of education at a higher rate than general inflation.

If the govt wants to make college more affordable for more people they need to do less of what they think will make it more affordable - not more.

Stacy Abrams and Hillary Clinton still haven't accepted the results of 2016

There is also the "little" problems of degrees not being all worth the same at all. Gvmnt could subsidize what has objective positive externalities with favourable rates for ex: you are qualified for a STEM degree? we lend you at fed fund rates. DEI degrees? no lending, actual tax for the negative externalities.

And Jeffries

That’s a complete lie. Clinton gave a concession speech and attended Trump’s inauguration. Why tell such obvious lies without even bothering to check? Just shows to everyone how little tiki care about being accurate, fair or honest.

so what was she talking about in 2019?

Well, let's read the article instead of just the headline:

Seems like she accepts that election results were really what they were. She's not claiming that she actually won the election.

Ah, so it isn't that you fell hook, line, and sinker for the made-up right wing story from four years ago, but that you misremembered who it was that was given some possible questions eight years ago. I see. Thanks for the clarification.

Why you needed to add this weird made-up bit at the end, I have no idea. Like what is your point even supposed to be here? There are precisely zero people in this discussion suggesting it was OK, or that Bernie was bad, or that Biden should be given the questions because Trump is bad. You're the one who brought up the whole knowing questions in advance thing, and the only person to have responded to it (me) has said nothing about it other than pointing out you got the story completely wrong.

I think i half agree with you.

I don't get why all the focus is on loans and none is on why it costs so much. Boomers could pay for college with a summer job.

Why does it cost 5k a head to sit in a room, listen to a guy talk and then have a slightly older student grade your papers for minimum wage?

The same course lectures are free on youtube, with MIT and Stanford profs. There are countless unemployed and ubder employed PhDs who would be delighted to grade papers for like $50 an hour.

Having said that, it's not the younger generations fault we've turned college into a scheme to bury them in debt to banks who bought off politicians.

You are factually wrong as usual .
Everyone earn the same and pay the same tax !
People who pay more tax is because they earn more ….

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/taxbracket.asp
So your concept of « earning » is meaningless , everyone earn equally .
I rather pay higher tax then the guy winning 25k yartkybbevausbeir means I actually make more money in the end …

And why that is u may ask ?
Because not everybody can be rich at the same time !
It’s impossible
Unless u favouring a communism system where everyone win the same .


If education is so high in your appreciation , what is the difference between forgiveness loan for student and a tax cut when the result end up the same ?
More money in the pocket of the consumer ?


To say student loans forgone as hiving money to university makes no sense , it’s the student that gets the money .
And to believe student loans forgiveness is bad because it will entice more costly education makes no sense either , we already see from year of empirical data that prior to student loans forgiveness the cost of education was already to high and kept raising ….

FWIW pretty harsh to prevent people to have an education just because they are poor , especially when u admit it’s damn important !
The concept of equal opportunity is a an important American value which obviously u disagree with sadly .

it costs so much because of federal guaranteed loans lol.

if people had to pay full out of pocket, or convince market participants it's a good bet to loan to them a lot of unsecured money, prices would drop for lack of actual demand for all courses that don't provide you with a good future income stream and to all people who can't prove to be extremely diligent and talented.

once the shitload of federal money is there, they find a way to take it and spend it. currently it's insane admin bloat, lavish facilities, sport teams and so on

so she claiming the election was won illegally is a reasonable claim??? even with no court agreeing with her? this is identical to trump claiming democrats tampered the vote in 2020 and you know it