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Originally Posted by checkraisdraw
What I’m getting from this is that for 40+ years, conservatives were (are?) denying that man made climate change was real. By the way, 99% of climate papers said it was real. Now that we know it’s real beyond any even shadow of a doubt, you guys want to say “oh ok, it’s real, but it’s actually not that bad”.
So for the better part of 40 years you loony toons were denying it existed and now you’re suddenly the experts on how we should respond to it? And we’re the psychotic ones, right?
Nah I’m good. Until you all are groveling at our feet apologizing for saying that science that has been obvious since the 80’s is real, I don’t think you get any say on the matter.
Nordhaus has been saying since 1993 that climate change is real, but there’s a huge flaw in his models. He thinks that 87% of the economy is not effected by climate change because it’s not outside. That’s idiotic, and I don’t care if he won a nobel prize about it. Unless you want to defend his model for all I can tell you just want to trot him out as the one guy that agrees with you (not even a climate scientist btw).
I only answer for my claims not for other people claims.
global warming was never even supposed to be bad for Europe that's why your guys changed the wording to "climate change" when people living months under snow didn't react negatively to warming.
it still isn't bad even in IPCC models.
you keep changing the narrative to climate crisis or whatever, it doesn't change reality. a warmer Europe is a better Europe for residents, as it would have been obvious to everyone given that Europe is colder than the human optimal.
ye science that disagrees with your claims is crap, I get it. first it's "science is with me!!!!" then people cite science that actually is the literal opposite of your claims, and "that's not real science!!!!" and you wait for radical leftists publishing in radical journal and "that's real science!!!!"
btw climate scientists have absolutely nothing useful to say about the effect on human life of warming. that you don't understand that intuitively is part of the problem.
climate scientists don't even know how to write a model about human quality of life, it's completely outside of everything they study. they can only tell us how they think the climate will change.
how that translates to human quality of life has absolutely ZERO to do with climate science and it's insane you think you need climate scientist to assess the impact on human. life of climate warming.
note this is identical to listen to epidemiologist opinions on lockdowns.
their opinion is utter trash because they have no tools to assess tradeoffs other than for the specific pathogen spread, which is only a tiny part of the whole.
it's identical, you think climate acientists are qualified to tell you how much to sacrifice today to reduce warming by x, somebody must have convinced you of that crap but it lacks all logic, it's completely nonsensical.
it's like asking a car mechanic about urban traffic