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Today , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Gorgonian
The tariffs on Chinese EVs are to protect American manufacturers from unfair business practices (the allegation is that China is subsidizing production to flood foreign markets). This is all easily google-able. The US is not alone in implementing these tariffs. EU has done the same for the same reason.
To be clear, the best solution for this was a free trade policy, which Hillary was forced to stop championing due to Sanders’s weird bugaboo against free trade that was championed by the left. Absent free trade agreements, China can’t be allowed to use its anti-market policies to become the only supplier of crucial goods that are difficult to ramp up on the supply chain.

If we want reciprocal free trade, that’s one thing, but that’s not what’s happening at all.
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Today , 03:14 PM
it was Bernie's fault! playing all the hits...
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Today , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Gorgonian
The tariffs on Chinese EVs are to protect American manufacturers from unfair business practices (the allegation is that China is subsidizing production to flood foreign markets). This is all easily google-able. The US is not alone in implementing these tariffs. EU has done the same for the same reason.
I'm no China fan but the notion their EV industry competes unfairly is ridiculous considering China wouldn't have an auto industry to compete against had the US government not bailed them out in 2008.

Last edited by pocket_zeros; Today at 03:33 PM.
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Today , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by checkraisdraw
To be clear, the best solution for this was a free trade policy, which Hillary was forced to stop championing due to Sanders’s weird bugaboo against free trade that was championed by the left. Absent free trade agreements, China can’t be allowed to use its anti-market policies to become the only supplier of crucial goods that are difficult to ramp up on the supply chain.

If we want reciprocal free trade, that’s one thing, but that’s not what’s happening at all.
Free trade agreement*

can’t edit it but yeah
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Today , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by pocket_zeros
I'm no China fan but the notion their EV industry competes unfairly is ridiculous considering China wouldn't have an auto industry to compete against had the US government not bailed them out in 2008.
massive difference between private companies which are bailed out when they fail vs state owned enterprises



even the ones that are "privately held" are still only in existence because of direct government investment or interest free loans along with national policy that helps them fend off foreign competition as well as subsidies

ie lenovo is technically a private company, but it only came to existence because the chinese government was tired of buying dell and hp computers so they put together a team, gave them the money to not only startup a computer company but also enough funds to buyout IBM's laptop division so they could hit the ground running

same with huawei, which is ostensibly a private enterprise on paper, but is basically under management and control by the chinese military (started as a tool of corruption where the military realized they were going to need to spend billions modernizing everything with IT infrastructure and instead of letting someone else get rich off that they created their own company to which they would give those contracts - these days it's since grown and developed into a legit business on its own right but it's still very much an unofficial arm of the chinese military - it's to the extent that they are forbidden from doing telecom infrastructure business in the united states and other countries (fear they'd put in backdoors) and nobody who works for the us gov is allowed to own a huawei device
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Today , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by checkraisdraw
To be clear, the best solution for this was a free trade policy, which Hillary was forced to stop championing due to Sanders’s weird bugaboo against free trade that was championed by the left. Absent free trade agreements, China can’t be allowed to use its anti-market policies to become the only supplier of crucial goods that are difficult to ramp up on the supply chain.

If we want reciprocal free trade, that’s one thing, but that’s not what’s happening at all.
To be clear, I wasn't commenting on the legitimacy of it, only giving the reason for the tariff.

Just wanted anyone that is quoting me and disagreeing with something I said to know that I don't intend to try to defend the stated position on this. I was only passing it along.
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Today , 04:50 PM
i came to check in to see if the usual suspects were IRATE that twitter is throttling and suppressing the JD vance dossier thing like they were mad about the short delay in the hunter laptop bs... el0n banning the guy that posted stuff immediatley.

where my freezepeacher's at?
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Today , 05:13 PM


raise your kids right. just say no to liberals.
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Today , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor

raise your kids right. just say no to liberals.
Even better, teach them to learn about the world through six-second video clips on X.
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Today , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor


raise your kids right. just say no to liberals.
Kids not wrong

#lesseroftwoevils
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