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10-27-2022 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by steamraise
Everything old is new again.

The old southern whites always could embrace the black entertainer who was clearly not very intelligent and not a threat to any of their positions and loved to prop them up. I think it gives them a sense of satisfaction and superiority to push forward, as the best example of what they think is a good black person, one who entertains them and is not an intellectual threat. The Minstrel type.
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10-28-2022 , 06:28 AM
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Liz Cheney has endorsed and plans to campaign for Democratic congresswoman Elissa Slotkin of Michigan
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10-28-2022 , 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by steamraise
I saw a commercial from the opposition against her how she rents a house from a lobbyist and her husband gets big contracts. Now it's the opposition and honesty is not required in political ads
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10-28-2022 , 09:39 AM
Her response clearly shows how these ads are so misleading

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10-28-2022 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
So your telling me that CNN & MSNBC are currently covering the border like they did with Trump? NO I watch very little of either one and yes Fox drives Crime and the border while CNN and MSNBC seem to still spend alot of time on Trump
Missed this sorry.


No, I am not telling you that as i do not specifically watch any news in a way that i can compare coverage in that way.

But why does that matter to your statement that there is a 'lack of coverage about the border' ? Are you saying that 'lack' is applicable only as a comparison to Trump similar coverage?


What I do know, is I see a ton of stuff I watch and click on news wise, that is border issue related and it is consistently being featured on NBC, MSNBC, CNN, etc. No shortage of 'border' stuff on those platforms if that is what you want to watch.

It is a constant right wing talking point to pretend something does not exist (coverage) on the centre/left media and that is simply not true. it is far more true on the right/far right where you would have to really search hard, many times to find certain info being reported, either negative to Trump or the GOP in general or positive about Dems.

I had CNN on this morning and they had a segment called 'Crisis at the border' on.
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11-01-2022 , 04:00 AM
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-...erica-n1300404

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Meet the election-denier who wants to count (or not count) Arizona's votes

Finchem is a self-professed member of the extremist Oath Keepers militia

Finchem even co-sponsored legislation that would allow Arizona’s
Republican-controlled state Legislature to ignore the will of the voters and
award presidential electors to any candidate they believe should be president.

“He has vowed that unless Trump wins in 2024, he won’t certify the election,”
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11-01-2022 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by steamraise
he was banned on twitter for spreading misinformation. and elon PERSONALLY went and unbanned him. great system we have there at twitter now..

https://twitter.com/MarlowNYC/status...U1O4daYluV-5iw
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11-01-2022 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by steamraise
I don't know if the Dem party threw money at Finchem's primary to help him win but I think that strategy by the Dem's is about to prove one of the worst and most dangerous and empowering of what is to follow of all time.

The Dem's wanted Trump to win his 2015 Primaries as they thought Hillary had the best chance against him. That Trump was so laughably abhorrent voters would reject him and vote in Hillary as the lesser of two evils. that is why the Dems made almost no effort to force any type of vote on abortion or Voting rights, as they thought keeping them all as election issues was their path to victory.

Having learned nothing from failure, they supported countless GOp candidates like Finchem thinking it gave them the best chance to keep power as they would prefer the risk of putting in deplorables to losing to more moderate and law abiding republicans.


The 2024 elections are lining up to be ones the dems simply cannot win, if the GOP wins the House and their efforts in their States continues. It will not be about the count or who votes as they are set on making that irrelevant. These Trumpers will simply decide what counts and what does not.


And a Trump win, in this manner, should it play out that way, will be met with some of the biggest unrest the country has seen and Trump will eagerly slam the police, national guard and military right in to them. Yup military too as ihs first order of business will be to purge all those who would object. At least if he follows the Bannon blueprint this time and commits and does not waver, as Bannon has been calling for. to 'finish it' as Bannon proclaims loudly.

Very dangerous times, thx in large part to a Dem gamble because they saw keeping power as the most important thing.
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11-01-2022 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
I don't know if the Dem party threw money at Finchem's primary to help him win but I think that strategy by the Dem's is about to prove one of the worst and most dangerous and empowering of what is to follow of all time.

The Dem's wanted Trump to win his 2015 Primaries as they thought Hillary had the best chance against him. That Trump was so laughably abhorrent voters would reject him and vote in Hillary as the lesser of two evils. that is why the Dems made almost no effort to force any type of vote on abortion or Voting rights, as they thought keeping them all as election issues was their path to victory.

Having learned nothing from failure, they supported countless GOp candidates like Finchem thinking it gave them the best chance to keep power as they would prefer the risk of putting in deplorables to losing to more moderate and law abiding republicans.


The 2024 elections are lining up to be ones the dems simply cannot win, if the GOP wins the House and their efforts in their States continues. It will not be about the count or who votes as they are set on making that irrelevant. These Trumpers will simply decide what counts and what does not.


And a Trump win, in this manner, should it play out that way, will be met with some of the biggest unrest the country has seen and Trump will eagerly slam the police, national guard and military right in to them. Yup military too as ihs first order of business will be to purge all those who would object. At least if he follows the Bannon blueprint this time and commits and does not waver, as Bannon has been calling for. to 'finish it' as Bannon proclaims loudly.

Very dangerous times, thx in large part to a Dem gamble because they saw keeping power as the most important thing.
How many of these governor races did they see as locks and now neck and neck . Oregon and NY both close

Things will be fine as long as Trump and Biden do not run . If Trump wins its 2028 that scares the heck out of me or loses 2024
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11-01-2022 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
How many of these governor races did they see as locks and now neck and neck . Oregon and NY both close

Things will be fine as long as Trump and Biden do not run . If Trump wins its 2028 that scares the heck out of me or loses 2024
oregon is a one off because of phil knight propping up a sham candidate. and i doubt NY ends close..
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11-03-2022 , 11:30 AM
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-...lety-rcna55243

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Stephen Miller group’s ads on race abandon any sense of subtlety

Miller and his associates are telling the public that white people are victims of rampant discrimination —
and it’s Democrats and many of their white leaders who should be seen as anti-white bigots.


https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-...amas-rcna55422

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Herschel Walker said he believes he has a better résumé than former president Barack Obama. ...

He said he had created businesses and said that is something neither Obama nor Warnock has never done.

“My résumé against his résumé, I’ll put it up any time of the day,” Walker added.

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11-04-2022 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by shortstacker
Walker is correct.
No he is not.

Not unless you say "business interests beyond all else matter on a resume when trying to get elected office'.

And even then there are big issues around Walker's business claims as he may actually lie more than Trump about his business acumen, which I would have thought an impossible bar to surmount as it appears from available data that Trump has lost more than other business man in American history.


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Herschel Walker Appears to Have Been Lying About His Business Record, Too

The Georgia Senate candidate who spread false claims about his academic achievements has been doing the same about his business holdings,
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11-04-2022 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
No he is not.

Not unless you say "business interests beyond all else matter on a resume when trying to get elected office'.

And even then there are big issues around Walker's business claims as he may actually lie more than Trump about his business acumen, which I would have thought an impossible bar to surmount as it appears from available data that Trump has lost more than other business man in American history.


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Herschel Walker Appears to Have Been Lying About His Business Record, Too

The Georgia Senate candidate who spread false claims about his academic achievements has been doing the same about his business holdings,
You only seem to focus on the shortcomings of GOP candidates. And there are many. Is there a reason you do not discuss the short comings of his challenger or other suspect Democratic candidates?.
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11-04-2022 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
You only seem to focus on the shortcomings of GOP candidates. And there are many. Is there a reason you do not discuss the short comings of his challenger or other suspect Democratic candidates?.
feel free to bring up the shortcomings of rev. warnock in comparison with walker.

tbf, i think walker voters are probably the truest to themselves republicans. he has literally zero qualities that are superior to his opponent. but he may very well win anyway.
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11-04-2022 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
You only seem to focus on the shortcomings of GOP candidates. And there are many. Is there a reason you do not discuss the short comings of his challenger or other suspect Democratic candidates?.
Because despite all the right wing talking points throwing out "Whatbouts' there is no approximation on the left for what the GOP is doing in this post Trump era as a way to deliberately end democracy in the US and make it such that the GOP CANNOT lose elections regardless of vote count.


Give me example of something on the Dem side you think needs to be more discussed than this?
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11-04-2022 , 04:16 PM
This could go in the Russia/Ukraine thread but is every bit a Midterms strategy point she is pushing.


Marjorie Taylor Greene: ‘Under Republicans, not another penny will go to Ukraine’


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11-04-2022 , 04:28 PM
Could a GOP house actually stop the Biden gov't from supporting Ukraine?

I know in controlling the purse strings they could attempt to choke it out thru future cash, but if Biden just prioritized a part of the existing Military budget to pay for it, could the House, stop it?
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11-04-2022 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
You only seem to focus on the shortcomings of GOP candidates. And there are many. Is there a reason you do not discuss the short comings of his challenger or other suspect Democratic candidates?.
Because they are ducking deranged loons.
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11-04-2022 , 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
Because despite all the right wing talking points throwing out "Whatbouts' there is no approximation on the left for what the GOP is doing in this post Trump era as a way to deliberately end democracy in the US and make it such that the GOP CANNOT lose elections regardless of vote count.


Give me example of something on the Dem side you think needs to be more discussed than this?
As much as I agree with you that in the Trump era he is looking for a way to discredit elections and possibly as he says himself steal an election . He has done that by endorsing candidates that will say the election was stolen.

So here is my question. If this is such a threat than why would they donate to these individuals to make sure they get elected in primaries? If any of these folks do get elected are they not themselves responsible for what occurs? I get they think they cant lose but

My next question as it looks as if Trump will run in 2024

Yet your best candidates on the verge of the country losing its democracy is

Joe Biden (he could win)
Kamela Harris (not a chance)
Pete (nope not with blacks and latinos)
Gavin (maybe )

Should not the party, Oprah , Lebron , Taylor Swift convince Michelle for the sake of the country?
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11-04-2022 , 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
reason you do not discuss the short comings of his challenger or other suspect Democratic candidates?.
Because, as deplorable as the dems are,
the magas make them look like angels.
And if the magas win, democracy is over.
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11-04-2022 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
Could a GOP house actually stop the Biden gov't from supporting Ukraine?

I know in controlling the purse strings they could attempt to choke it out thru future cash, but if Biden just prioritized a part of the existing Military budget to pay for it, could the House, stop it?
They could pass laws to outlaw or restrict funding for Ukraine. They did similar things towards the end of the Vietnam war for South Vietnamese support and also for the Contras in Nicaragua (I know, lol.....). Would have to be able to override a veto though.
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11-05-2022 , 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
Could a GOP house actually stop the Biden gov't from supporting Ukraine?

I know in controlling the purse strings they could attempt to choke it out thru future cash, but if Biden just prioritized a part of the existing Military budget to pay for it, could the House, stop it?
Both parties love perpetual war. 0% chance that the GOP ends support for Ukraine. However, the "threat" of denying support for Ukraine can be an effective bargaining chip.
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11-05-2022 , 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by steamraise
Because, as deplorable as the dems are,
the magas make them look like angels.
And if the magas win, democracy is over.
I think democracy has been over for some time. No matter which party "wins", the debt will increase, spending will continue to go "up, up and away in a beautiful balloon", and perpetual war will continue to be just that.

#Jan062023
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11-05-2022 , 09:22 AM
Imagine if it all comes down to Georgia and there is a runoff we may see the most money spent by two parties.

Probably not going to happen but yikes
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