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10-22-2022 , 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by steamraise
I'm a lifelong republican who voted for trump the first time.
Long time fox news viewer. Largest inauguration in history lie got me to do some research.
There is no more gop, it is now the maga party.

And that is why a guy like Mcmullen is doing well as a senate independent candidate in Utah refusing to caucus with either party.
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10-22-2022 , 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by steamraise
I'm a lifelong republican who voted for trump the first time.
Long time fox news viewer. Largest inauguration in history lie got me to do some research.
There is no more gop, it is now the maga party.
The funny thing is I was more left than Justin Trudeau came along and I became more right
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10-22-2022 , 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by lozen
The funny thing is I was more left than Justin Trudeau came along and I became more right
me too after Biden came along.
its just too much horseshit that's going on for me.

maybe right is right?

or maybe it was always that way and I didn't see it.

but I get why they don't like alt right people in general, those can be dangerous. a different dangerous than far left extremists. those can also be very dangerous, but again it's a different kind d of threat.

so I stay centred hopefully.
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10-22-2022 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
I would argue CNN and MSNBC act with some bias Dem when it comes to Dem vs GOP issues they would have no issue reporting on the worst Dem abuses and watching Dem politicians burn. They are not going to actively cover for them in the way Fox does for the GOP.

I would call MSNBC and CNN more on Dem side of the Dem/GOP divide, whereas Fox is more a PR Firm for the GOP.

Fox has strategy sessions and workshops how they will socialize and counter facts that could harm the viewer perception of the GOP politicians and their positions. They are very actively acting more like a Campaign PR firm than a news agency.
So what would you say to the lack of coverage on the border?

They were all at the border when Trump was there and putting kids in cages. As well when Trump lost those kids separated from parents which was disgusting. I was shocked they can't account for over 20,000 kids that crossed on their own.

Its funny you watch left and right wing news and they both hate Mcmullen . I hope he wins and holds strong on his refusal to caucus
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10-22-2022 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
So what would you say to the lack of coverage on the border?

They were all at the border when Trump was there and putting kids in cages. As well when Trump lost those kids separated from parents which was disgusting. I was shocked they can't account for over 20,000 kids that crossed on their own.

Its funny you watch left and right wing news and they both hate Mcmullen . I hope he wins and holds strong on his refusal to caucus
What 'lack of coverage on the border'?

Are you saying you watch every different segment on MSNBC and CNN and never see them talking about the border? Or are you saying you are 'hearing things' from right wing talking points that say that?
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10-22-2022 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
What 'lack of coverage on the border'?

Are you saying you watch every different segment on MSNBC and CNN and never see them talking about the border? Or are you saying you are 'hearing things' from right wing talking points that say that?
So your telling me that CNN & MSNBC are currently covering the border like they did with Trump? NO I watch very little of either one and yes Fox drives Crime and the border while CNN and MSNBC seem to still spend alot of time on Trump
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10-23-2022 , 12:03 PM
Watching MTP this morning and some of these polls are disturbing

One was would you still vote for your parties candidate if he he did something Morally wrong . The number was very high on both parties yes

The other one was that the other party is destroying our country and both Dems and GOP think that . Not sure how you come back from that
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10-23-2022 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen

The other one was that the other party is destroying our country and both Dems and GOP think that . Not sure how you come back from that
The problem is that they both are.
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10-24-2022 , 08:29 AM
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-...dment-n1299932

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Christian nationalism implicitly calls for the U.S. to be a white Christian nation.

The even more dangerous aspect of Christian nationalism is its acceptance of the inevitability of violence.

Ron DeSantis, called on a crowd to
“put on that full armor of God” and stand firm against “the left’s schemes.”
“You’ll be met with flaming arrows,” he warned, “but the shield of faith will stop them.”

supporters referred to Democrats as “demons” and called
then-Rep. Beto O’Rourke, a Democrat, the “son of Satan.”

Putin, who launched an unprovoked attack against Ukraine
in February, described the entire Western world as Satanists.
Also last month, the head of the Russian Orthodox church, Patriarch Kirill,
said that Russian soldiers who die in Ukraine will be cleansed of all their sins.

“seeing the other party as evil, less than human and a
serious threat to the nation,” is a predictor of pro-violence attitudes.

Michael Peroutka, Republican candidate for attorney general in Maryland,
says that, if elected, his decisions as attorney general will follow from his interpretation of Christianity.
He will not, he says, support already-enacted laws if they don’t align with “his understanding of God’s law.”
In his interpretation of Christianity, there can be no same-sex marriage,
all abortions are illegal, and public schools are a threat to a Christian worldview.
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GOP doubles down on racist rhetoric going into the midterms


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Midterm elections headed for chaos

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10-24-2022 , 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
I would argue CNN and MSNBC act with some bias Dem when it comes to Dem vs GOP issues they would have no issue reporting on the worst Dem abuses and watching Dem politicians burn. They are not going to actively cover for them in the way Fox does for the GOP.

I would call MSNBC and CNN more on Dem side of the Dem/GOP divide, whereas Fox is more a PR Firm for the GOP.

Fox has strategy sessions and workshops how they will socialize and counter facts that could harm the viewer perception of the GOP politicians and their positions. They are very actively acting more like a Campaign PR firm than a news agency.
We know from some surveys that there isn't much difference in how high the trust in media can go, if we compare Democrats and Republicans.

The main difference is that republicans tend to trust one network highly, and distrust the rest enormously. When read as an aggregate this is often interpreted as if Republicans have a lower trust in media, but that's a conclusion that is ambiguously worded to the point of being wrong. I'd even argue that if your place your media trust in a single place, you might end up less skeptical because you'll see less diverse perspectives.

Don't take this to mean that I hold some "both sides are correct / the truth is in the middle"-view, as I have always found that take to be dangerously naive (the same goes for "both sides are just as wrong").
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10-24-2022 , 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by tame_deuces
We know from some surveys that there isn't much difference in how high the trust in media can go, if we compare Democrats and Republicans.

The main difference is that republicans tend to trust one network highly, and distrust the rest enormously. When read as an aggregate this is often interpreted as if Republicans have a lower trust in media, but that's a conclusion that is ambiguously worded to the point of being wrong. I'd even argue that if your place your media trust in a single place, you might end up less skeptical because you'll see less diverse perspectives.

Don't take this to mean that I hold some "both sides are correct / the truth is in the middle"-view, as I have always found that take to be dangerously naive (the same goes for "both sides are just as wrong").
I watched the piece yesterday on 60 Minutes and the Dominion Voting Machines. Yikes Fox, Trump, and the rest may pay big for that. I never thought it was rigged but I thought folks voted on those machines. When you see how they were used and the back ups they have to each vote Fox needs to pay big time for having those guests on
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10-25-2022 , 05:49 AM
So a bunch of racist, sexist voters in Nevada are about to kick out the first latinx senator from office. Some things never change America
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10-25-2022 , 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ejames209
So a bunch of racist, sexist voters in Nevada are about to kick out the first latinx senator from office. Some things never change America
You do realize many of those voters are Latino and as well hate the term latinx

Maybe Nevada voters want a change .
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10-25-2022 , 10:40 PM
Has anyone seen all or parts of the Fetterman/Oz debate?
How was Fetterman is my question ?
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10-26-2022 , 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by iwasbanned
Has anyone seen all or parts of the Fetterman/Oz debate?
How was Fetterman is my question ?
I saw some highlights and it did not look good. Though I saw those highlights this morning on Fox News . Plan on watching MSNBC take as well later.
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10-26-2022 , 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by lozen
I saw some highlights and it did not look good. Though I saw those highlights this morning on Fox News . Plan on watching MSNBC take as well later.
I'm shocked that fox news would paint a democrat in a negative light.

I guess the only thing he could have done worse is tell women that local politicians should decide what they get to do with their bodies.
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10-26-2022 , 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by BuckyK
I'm shocked that fox news would paint a democrat in a negative light.

I guess the only thing he could have done worse is tell women that local politicians should decide what they get to do with their bodies.

Its not like I watched Fox & Friends. Though that is why I pointed it out

Lets be honest you cant trust the big media or the polls. The betting markets seem to nail it the most. They bailed on Fetterman after the debate

Here is NBC News take on it

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...bate-rcna54032
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10-26-2022 , 01:10 PM
CNN not saying it was bad also

Mercy Rule should have been declared after 20 minutes

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/other...ategory=foryou
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10-27-2022 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Herschel Walker should never have been selected, he is a terrible candidate.
Another Woman came out today about being bullied by Walker into getting an abortion.
Bottom line: Walker will come darn close to winning GA Senate seat because Republican voters don't care one iota about abortion. They only care about power.

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Originally Posted by shortstacker
In my opinion, any campaign that basically becomes Abortion versus The Economy is huge +EV for the GOP.
I'm not so sure about that. That said, we'll know late Nov 8th or Nov 9th, hopefully.

There are gonna be a few states that could take several days to see a victor.
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10-27-2022 , 02:08 PM
It is clear that Kevin McCarthy has sufficiently bent the knee not just to Trump but also to Marjorie Taylor Greene and that she will be dictating what 'Investigations' and other activities a House controlled by the GOP will engage in, should they win.

On the docket will be :

- one for sure but likely 2 if they can squeeze it, Impeachments of Biden and maybe some others
- investigations into Fauci and the CDC re covid
- Hunter Biden investigation
- Corporation investigation re 'cancelling' and being 'woke' and not donating to the GOP

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Marjorie Taylor Greene: 'Investigations' for Companies Not Donating to GOP

Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, a Georgia Republican, has promised "investigations" for corporations that stopped donating to GOP politicians who supported former President Donald Trump's claims of a "stolen" 2020 election.

Greene said during a Wednesday appearance on former Trump adviser Steve Bannon's War Room podcast that, should Republicans regain control of the House following next month's midterms, GOP representatives would target corporate donors that refused to continue financial support to those who supported claims of massive fraud in the last presidential election.

The congresswoman was among the majority of House Republicans who voted against certifying President Joe Biden's victory during the joint session of Congress on January 6, 2021—when an angry mob of Trump supporters who believed the former president's election fraud claims breached the Capitol in an ill-fated attempt to stop the certification.

Greene said that it was "ridiculous and wrong" for companies and lobbyists to stop donating to Republicans after the insurrection, suggesting that GOP politicians would pursue revenge after Bannon asked her whether corporations needed to "fear" a "populist House."

"Let's just put it like this," Greene responded. "You know what they did after January 6th, Steve? They stopped donating—all the lobbyists, all the big corporations stopped donating to a whole bunch of my Republican colleagues that they used to donate to. They said, 'oh no, we can't support you because of the big lie,' or whatever they want to call it."

The congresswoman argued that "half" of the country was "sick and tired" of "woke corporations," which she predicted would eventually be vanquished by a "patriot economy."

The nature of the congressional investigations that Greene has predicted is unclear. Corporations and lobbyists do not have any legal obligations to donate to any particular politicians or political candidates.

"That's not going to be forgotten by a whole bunch of my Republican colleagues, because that was really ridiculous and wrong," she continued. "There is going to be investigations coming. And there should be, because the way corporations have conducted themselves ... I've always called it corporate communism."

Greene went on to say that corporations "probably should get a lawyer." She urged them to stay out of politics and focus solely "on customer service."

The congresswoman argued that "half" of the country was "sick and tired" of "woke corporations," which she predicted would eventually be vanquished by a "patriot economy."

The nature of the congressional investigations that Greene has predicted is unclear. Corporations and lobbyists do not have any legal obligations to donate to any particular politicians or political candidates.
She is issuing a clear threat and advising them in advance to they should consider lawyering up. Of course that could all go away and any corporation could get out of the potential gun sights, if they just take the threat seriously and start giving them (and her) money again.
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10-27-2022 , 02:13 PM
the goal of Impeaching Biden and running Investigations are not so much to get a real result everyone (anyone) would trust and is instead to make Democrats call the Impeachment Process and Investigations shams and witch hunts, which they would be.

See, if Dems are saying it re Biden and these investigations and GOP is saying re prior Trump stuff, it is all the same. It is all just a a function of these partisan times and none of it is to be taken as anything more than that.

It is sad but is the GOP targeting to destroy the belief that Impeachments and Congressional investigations are serious and should only be engaged in for serious and important matters. If the Dems are saying these things can be coopted for garbage partisan means, the GOP thinks they win in rehabilitating Trump.

Sad but true with regards to where the GOP is as they would tear down every institution and procedure and destroy faith in them all just to protect Trump.
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10-27-2022 , 04:19 PM
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10-27-2022 , 04:26 PM
Dems Block Latina from joining Congressional Hispanic Caucus

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/other...b53f64d4ece990
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10-27-2022 , 06:19 PM
If you're a minority and you vote GOP, then you're not a minority. You've aligned yourself with the white party. It makes sense to exclude them.
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10-27-2022 , 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Dems Block Latina from joining Congressional Hispanic Caucus

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/other...b53f64d4ece990
was she the one that along with all her republican followers falsely claimed she was the first mexican born member in congress? and then had to be told that no she wasn't.. also isn't her term like 2 months?
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