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07-13-2022 , 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by lozen
As dumb as it sounds he does have one point in there that unless the World takes on climate change which includes China and India we may be fighting a climate battle we can not win.

Also no question the GOP takes over the house the senate may be iffy with the candidates they (GOP)pick. 2024 has more seats up for grabs

All Herscel needs to do in a debate is ask the Dem candidate if Men can have babies
and then he can tell that one joke that they have. about the attack helicopter..
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07-13-2022 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
and then he can tell that one joke that they have. about the attack helicopter..
No, he can say his pronouns are nor / mal and that his sexual preference is your mom.
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07-13-2022 , 04:42 PM
campfirewest's kids are obviously in much cooler discords than my kids. I don't know how else you keep up with the memes.
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07-17-2022 , 02:19 PM
Generic ballot polling has to be a little worrisome for Republicans right now, being up only by 1.7. They were polling +9 heading into 2010 and dems were polling +8 in 2018. Shows possibly a fundamental deterioration of the brand post Trump that isn't just dominated by general sentiment or low approval on the other side. Still early, so they can get to the standard +8 level, but they are underperforming Biden's approval by a lot.
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07-17-2022 , 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte
Generic ballot polling has to be a little worrisome for Republicans right now, being up only by 1.7. They were polling +9 heading into 2010 and dems were polling +8 in 2018. Shows possibly a fundamental deterioration of the brand post Trump that isn't just dominated by general sentiment or low approval on the other side. Still early, so they can get to the standard +8 level, but they are underperforming Biden's approval by a lot.
I mean, most of the Republican states just outlawed abortion, which most Americans actually support. So not too shocking. I mean at this point it seems like both parties are purposefully trying to make themselves as unattractive and unelectable as possible. A true race to the bottom.
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07-17-2022 , 02:54 PM
That Republicans are for unpopular stuff isn't really a change, the individual provisions in Obamacare were all popular, but Republicans were polling +9 attacking it and saying they were going to repeal it. That they haven't been able to find suitable lies to lead by more at this point is fairly surprising. Trying to frame Roe repeal as pro freedom or moral like being anti-Obamacare was pro good healthcare just isn't working as well.
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07-18-2022 , 08:19 AM
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-...tions-n1297317

trump-announcing-2024-run-could-upend-midterm-elections

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Helping the GOP doesn't factor into Trump's 2024 decision-making

announcing before the midterms would be entirely a self-serving exercise.
The goal wouldn’t be about helping his fellow Republicans, so much as shivving the
would-be usurpers who would dare challenge his place atop the party, like Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis.

He wants the adulation of the masses who identify with the
Republican Party and the unwavering, unblinking loyalty of his fellow party members.
There is no reciprocity — only an unending stream of homage and
tribute can appease the self-styled emperor of the Grand Old Party.”
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07-21-2022 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by steamraise
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-...tions-n1297317

trump-announcing-2024-run-could-upend-midterm-elections

Trump will most likely be charged with a crime before he even gets the chance to announce that he's running again. Not to throw this of the rails but it's looking more and more likely that Trump is charged at some point.
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07-21-2022 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee

It's interesting how different these models are if you change to the "lite" version which is just polling. Which model is better is anyone's guess.
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07-21-2022 , 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by [x] swanny
Trump will most likely be charged with a crime before he even gets the chance to announce that he's running again. Not to throw this of the rails but it's looking more and more likely that Trump is charged at some point.
Trump wants to announce now, hoping it will make the DOJ and other prosecutions stand down. Would be crazy if Garland honoured the DOJ guidance in that regard and let Trump out flank him like that but I would not be shocked. It would give him an excuse to not do something I think he really does not relish being forced to do.

Apparently the GOP is really trying to keep Trump from declaring before the MidTerms as they don't want him to become the focus of the MT's. They want him to wait until immediately after.
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07-22-2022 , 03:09 PM
Everything is said right here about the corruption in politics.

Tried to fins a MSNBC or CNN clip I guess its not news to them


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07-23-2022 , 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Everything is said right here about the corruption in politics.

Tried to fins a MSNBC or CNN clip I guess its not news to them


Ya that is pretty disgusting and even more so that Pelosi it completely unapologetic about it.

That is exactly the type of thing that empowered Trump to go on an authoritarian rampage. Citizens saw examples like this by Pelosi and did recognize the system is 'rigged' for the Politicians and the ric. Trump recognized that citizens felt powerless and beaten in this regard. That they could only stare at the abuse and shrug 'oh well, that is gov't and what the powerful do', and he took that rightful anger and disenfranchisement and abused it.

He made them think he could be the one to finally hold them to account, and when in he saw these very abusable systems as something to ramp up 10 fold over what Pelosi and others did. Trump basically said 'amateurs, I will show you how to abuse a rigged system'.
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07-31-2022 , 06:40 PM
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-...cracy-n1297607

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“We in the state of Florida are not going to allow legacy media outlets
to be involved in our primaries,” DeSantis said in his opening remarks.
“I’m not going to have a bunch of left-wing media people asking our candidates gotcha questions.”
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07-31-2022 , 07:50 PM
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From the moment Walker entered the race, it was clear he hoped to skate by on the strength of
his celebrity as a former NFL star, along with an endorsement from former President Donald Trump.

“I’ve told him many times I’m ready to debate him any time, any day," he added.
"I just want to make it for the fans, not about a political party or some media,
and all they doin’ is talkin’. I want to make it a fair and equitable debate for the people.”
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08-01-2022 , 12:05 PM
that is one dumb SOB

To many hits to head maybe
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08-01-2022 , 12:34 PM
Ancient philosophers like Plato and Socrates pushed the idea that rulers should actually be a knowledgeable "philosopher king." It saddens me that in America in 2022 morons like Donald Trump and Herschel Walker even have a chance to win political office. Donald Trump doesn't even talk in complete sentences.

Thankfully there are term limits on how long a moron can be president (although Trump would try to become a dictator without a term limit by storming the capital again), but it is long overdue to also put term limits on how long a moron can be in congress.
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08-03-2022 , 12:10 AM
From what I have seen tonight, maybe the Democratic party is not dead in the water for the midterm elections.
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08-05-2022 , 08:42 AM
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-...ction-n1297696

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at least 108 Republican candidates for statewide office and Congress who have embraced
Trump’s 2020 election denial have won the nomination of their party and will be on the ballot this fall

most concerning of these candidates are the GOP nominees for secretary of state who will have the
power to potentially deny the will of the people in future elections if they don’t agree with the outcome.
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08-05-2022 , 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by iwasbanned
From what I have seen tonight, maybe the Democratic party is not dead in the water for the midterm elections.
Republicans were hoping for a 2018 style wave, which is still possible, but things need to improve for them. They keep saying focus on inflation, but that’s kinda like saying “okay, we lie about election fraud and our policies on stuff that we actually have control over like abortion suck, but trust we have solutions for a global problem with many moving parts not under our control like inflation”.
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08-05-2022 , 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Everything is said right here about the corruption in politics.

Tried to fins a MSNBC or CNN clip I guess its not news to them


Are you even pretending you’re not just parroting out Fox News talking points?
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08-05-2022 , 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Are you even pretending you’re not just parroting out Fox News talking points?
Those are only right wing talking points because the more centrist MSM is more apt to not give this type of Dem issue the full amount of shanming and scrutiny it deserves.

This should be one issue and loophole that should be painfully obvious to close. There is no reason to not count Congress members and their families as 'Insiders' when it comes to trading individual stocks. NONE.

When Marjorie Taylor Greene and Nancy Pelosi are aligned and utilizing the same tactics to build riches, it is time for change.
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08-05-2022 , 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
Those are only right wing talking points because the more centrist MSM is more apt to not give this type of Dem issue the full amount of shanming and scrutiny it deserves.
lol, literally every time Republicans bitch about “The MSM isn’t talking about X!” you can easily find the MSM talking about X.
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08-05-2022 , 11:46 AM
Will you PLEASE stop annoying Republicans with facts? They get so testy when you do that.
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08-05-2022 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
lol, literally every time Republicans bitch about “The MSM isn’t talking about X!” you can easily find the MSM talking about X.
Agreed.

But lets focus on my point of the MSM not giving this issue the type of pressure type shaming it deserves. While it is occasionally cited in MSM, this is an issue that would find near universal support across party lines. I don't think there would be any defenders, outside the politicians directly benefitting who would defend this.

It should be one of the easier ones to pressure/shame the politicians into changing by just keeping it top of mind for a period. Bringing on to show very loud and respected voices to call this out. A And that is NOT happening, in any pressure type ways.


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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Indeed, lots of what I call 1 and done type reporting.

it is pretty much impossible for the MSM to ignore it when the abuse is so publicly outed. So 1 and done is the best way to give them shade and cover.
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