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2018 midterms aren't analogous to a Presidential election 2018 midterms aren't analogous to a Presidential election

01-04-2020 , 07:56 PM
Ever hear a corporate Democrat tell you how moderation crushes and we must nominate a moderate? They'll often point to the 2018 midterms that saw corporate funded moderates flip the House. This is a poor example considering the billion dollars in free media one receives in a presidential general election.

Of course some corporate funded Democrat is going to do better in a midterm when they can run more TV ads. But we've been through this before - in 2006 - and those same democrats got ran off by a bunch of teabaggers in 2010 when their corporate overlords didn't allow them to do enough for the people.

I aspire to more than this musical chairs style **** (think post new deal when democrats controlled the house for 40 years).The only way we can achieve this is by doubling down on the new deal and finally instituting an economic bill of rights like FDR wanted 80 ****ing years ago. By making it completely obvious to all working class people which party is on their side.
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01-06-2020 , 11:45 AM
I will believe the system has integrity when Citizens United v. FEC and McCutcheon v. FEC are overturned. Until then, the musical chairs are necessary to avoid one party becoming too complacent. James Madison knew, ambition must be made to counteract ambition.
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01-08-2020 , 04:57 AM
The democrats are very politically fractured. Which is really the historic norm for US party politics post-WW2, but the GOP seems to walk increasingly in lockstep.

Though it should be noted that there are definite rifts in the GOP too, as we saw when the GOP held both houses of congress prior to the 2018 election. In that period, congress was perhaps even more dysfunctional than it is today. Still, they seem to have the ability to mobilize a very unified front when it comes to elections or big policy.

I don't think this fracture is bad. For what is a de facto two-party system it is probably extremely healthy. Compromise gets a bad rep these days, since it doesn't look so strong on the surface. It's still a damn good way to make policy. But it is probably a big weakness when it comes to winning elections, as it will be hard to motivate across the base.
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01-10-2020 , 04:59 PM
Anyone who ran with a d by their name did well in the midterms. Same if you had an r by your name in Obama’s terms. Opposing party of the president always does well in midterms. Candidate is less relevant.
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01-10-2020 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by tame_deuces
The democrats are very politically fractured. Which is really the historic norm for US party politics post-WW2, but the GOP seems to walk increasingly in lockstep.

Though it should be noted that there are definite rifts in the GOP too, as we saw when the GOP held both houses of congress prior to the 2018 election. In that period, congress was perhaps even more dysfunctional than it is today. Still, they seem to have the ability to mobilize a very unified front when it comes to elections or big policy.

I don't think this fracture is bad. For what is a de facto two-party system it is probably extremely healthy. Compromise gets a bad rep these days, since it doesn't look so strong on the surface. It's still a damn good way to make policy. But it is probably a big weakness when it comes to winning elections, as it will be hard to motivate across the base.


GOP is massively fractured. Evangelicals, fiscal conservatives but social liberals, hawks and libertarians. I think they just united over the media’s treatment of trump.
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