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12-15-2020 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Ren212
Hello,



I would like to know what outside independent company checks the "random" poker algorithm.



i Would like to see the link to the report.



Also u gave me a ticket to Main Event 150000 sunday and then removed it of my account.



And ur costumer support says that was the tournament director that removed it.



so u give tickets then remove it before players can use it ? is that company police?



Please reply Mr Tournament Director and Script writer of the results
Someone got a sick beat put on them lol
12-16-2020 , 11:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ren212
Hello,

I would like to know what outside independent company checks the "random" poker algorithm.

i Would like to see the link to the report.

Also u gave me a ticket to Main Event 150000 sunday and then removed it of my account.

And ur costumer support says that was the tournament director that removed it.

so u give tickets then remove it before players can use it ? is that company police?

Please reply Mr Tournament Director and Script writer of the results
If I could write algorithms I can promise you I wouldnt be doing this job. I wish I was intelligent enough to be able to do that.

Also I dont deal with tickets personally. However please give me your account number or anything to check what happened. Since being here I doing even know how to give or retract tickets.
12-22-2020 , 06:59 AM
More of those 50K starting stack tournaments please
12-26-2020 , 07:20 PM
Why do we still have tournaments with 5bb late reg?
12-26-2020 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by RManPT
Why do we still have tournaments with 5bb late reg?

Talking about the $11 2500 GTD right now? Hey, those late joiners are free chips.
12-26-2020 , 08:51 PM
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Last edited by a dewd; 12-26-2020 at 09:13 PM. Reason: Wrong thread
12-26-2020 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by WereWolfen
Talking about the $11 2500 GTD right now? Hey, those late joiners are free chips.
That and a few others, on the 5.5 monster 3K people were registering 5bb at last break, blinds go up and they start playing <4bb... it's great for big stacks but not for the ecosystem.
12-26-2020 , 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by WereWolfen
Talking about the $11 2500 GTD right now? Hey, those late joiners are free chips.
Although it feels that way, it's not what math says: the longer the late reg period, the better it is for the late entrants.
12-28-2020 , 05:30 PM
For the love of Merlin, please bring back the $55 PKO 15k gdt tournament and make it a regular daily one - most glorious tournament in the last couple weeks, never seen so many funplayers - you can even lower the gdt to 10 if you are worried about that, should reach the quota easily daily.
12-28-2020 , 05:49 PM
Is there no 730 pm est big nightly $55 tourney tonight? by far my favorite tournament
12-28-2020 , 06:26 PM
It's back since a couple minutes, thanks!
12-29-2020 , 04:37 PM
glad to see its back. i think lots of ppl log in just to play that tournament
12-29-2020 , 08:19 PM
Which one are you all specifically talking about?
12-30-2020 , 02:14 PM
before the holidays there was a 730pm est $55 nightly tournament with a good guarantee. When holidays started it changed to a $55 hohoho pko with a 30k guarantee. Though it looks like the new tournament schedule they put out for january might have gotten rid of that tournament which would be a huge bummer
12-30-2020 , 02:34 PM
Hi Guys

No that tournament is in the new schedule. Over the Xmas period and new years we have to adjust for the massive drop in players. Its very common and I do it every year.

The new schedule I will publish soon. We are just working on building all the tournaments now!
12-30-2020 , 03:06 PM
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Last edited by JMicLett; 12-30-2020 at 03:10 PM. Reason: Somehow made the same post twice
12-30-2020 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BetOnline Dan
The new schedule I will publish soon. We are just working on building all the tournaments now!
If there's any chance you can post the new schedule on here when you're done, that would be appreciated.
12-31-2020 , 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by BetOnline Dan
Hi Guys

No that tournament is in the new schedule. Over the Xmas period and new years we have to adjust for the massive drop in players. Its very common and I do it every year.

The new schedule I will publish soon. We are just working on building all the tournaments now!
please remember low stakes european player (possibly morning and afternoon time gmt +1 )

thanks a lot and good work !!!
12-31-2020 , 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BetOnline Dan
Hi Guys

No that tournament is in the new schedule. Over the Xmas period and new years we have to adjust for the massive drop in players. Its very common and I do it every year.

The new schedule I will publish soon. We are just working on building all the tournaments now!
Great to hear. would love a link to new schedule when it is done
01-02-2021 , 02:59 PM
The new 7.5k MTT at 1 PM CST, has a has a fast icon on the main lobby indicticating it has 8 minute levels but when looking at the tournament info after opening the mtt lobby it shows it actually has 10 minute levels. Thought y'all should know about the discrepancy.
01-05-2021 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by RManPT
Thank you for the update.

I understand that some recs play just a few tables and that needs to be taken into account, of course they won't play every single tournament but I rather have smaller guarantees and tougher fields than having to wait 1hour before a tournaments starts and having to wait 4h before I can have at least 6 tables. That also should be taken into account. It's not the "one game a week" rec that gives you rake. Micro and low stakes grinders pay much more than the recs and want to have tournaments available to print some volume (more volume = more rake). The pool will definitely shrink if the schedule remains this naked (this happens 2/3 of the day and it is worst on weekends which is unbelievable).



I wish you a good work. Looking forward for your (and our) success! Kind regards.
First impression on the new schedule: the fear is real; no changes since last suggestion (up).

it's 5pm GMT, a micros grinder has to wait close to 5 hours to get 6-8 tables going (considering there are no busts in the meantime), even if adding the 22's. No point in advertising a new tournament every 15m, although it may not be a lie, it's far from the truth for most players in the pool.





Will be waiting to see if there are still <5bb late reg tournaments to comment on that.

I will be very sad if both major concerns were not addressed.

I wish I will proven wrong in the near future and will apologize accordingly.

Last edited by RManPT; 01-05-2021 at 02:06 PM.
01-05-2021 , 03:13 PM
Just some feedback on the new schedule:

It looks like all of the R/A tournaments have been changed to 110-120 minutes of late registration. This is just too long for a traditional rebuy tournament -- especially when you're charging rake on every rebuy and add-on (which I've never seen a site do). From my experience, online rebuy tournaments never have more than 90 minutes of late registration.

Also, the PKO tournaments have 120-144 minutes of late registration. I think this is a little excessive, as most competent players are going to be buying in as close as possible to the tournament start time, and not re-entering with <30 to 40bb. As it stands right now with late registration running this long, players can re-enter or buy-in with 10bb. This is just burning money IMO. Like rebuys, I would cut late registration periods for PKOs down to 90 minutes max. If you really want to keep two hours of late registration (to increase prizepools), I recommend slowing the structures down drastically.

Everything else looks good to me. I will say I do see RManPT's point about the lack of options for lower stakes MTT players, but I just spread my volume over WPN/Bovada to get around this issue. I should also mention that I really like the structures for the Titan Turbo tournaments.
01-05-2021 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JMicLett
Just some feedback on the new schedule:

It looks like all of the R/A tournaments have been changed to 110-120 minutes of late registration. This is just too long for a traditional rebuy tournament -- especially when you're charging rake on every rebuy and add-on (which I've never seen a site do). From my experience, online rebuy tournaments never have more than 90 minutes of late registration.

Also, the PKO tournaments have 120-144 minutes of late registration. I think this is a little excessive, as most competent players are going to be buying in as close as possible to the tournament start time, and not re-entering with <30 to 40bb. As it stands right now with late registration running this long, players can re-enter or buy-in with 10bb. This is just burning money IMO. Like rebuys, I would cut late registration periods for PKOs down to 90 minutes max. If you really want to keep two hours of late registration (to increase prizepools), I recommend slowing the structures down drastically.

Everything else looks good to me. I will say I do see RManPT's point about the lack of options for lower stakes MTT players, but I just spread my volume over WPN/Bovada to get around this issue. I should also mention that I really like the structures for the Titan Turbo tournaments.
I added 10 mins yes to late reg of the rebuys. We do not charge rake on rebuys it all goes to the prizepool but you are not the first to say that to me and I guess its not clear enough in the lobby but I repeat we DO NOT charge fees on rebuys or the addon. The 22 goes to the prizepool for each rebuy in the new 10k r/a.

Your comment regarding PKO's is fair but you should also look at the fact that I am not charging fees for the KO side of things. We actually charge the smallest fees in the industry as far as im aware.

We do alot of good things but unfortunately nobody actually knows about it. I always appreciate your honesty and clarity and I will or should always have a good response as to why.
01-05-2021 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BetOnline Dan
I added 10 mins yes to late reg of the rebuys. We do not charge rake on rebuys it all goes to the prizepool but you are not the first to say that to me and I guess its not clear enough in the lobby but I repeat we DO NOT charge fees on rebuys or the addon. The 22 goes to the prizepool for each rebuy in the new 10k r/a.
I just know the details of the tournaments during the hours I play. I know the weekday $5.50 $2500 GTD R/A and the $3.30 $500 GTD R/A had 90 minutes of late reg, then the $11 $4,000 GTD R/A on Sundays had 80 minutes of late reg. The way the schedule stands now - the $5.50 and $3.30 R/A tournaments have 120 minutes of late reg, and the $22 R/A has 110 minutes of late reg. This is not a deal breaker for me by any means. I just know 110-120 is longer than the "norm." I know the $5.50 and $3.30 R/A tournaments never had overlays with the shorter late reg, so I guess I just don't see why time would need to be added to the late reg. With the new $22 $10K R/A, I understand the longer late reg because I can see that tournament overlaying on a semi-regular basis.

In regards to the rake on rebuys and add-ons, you are correct about this and I apologize for commenting on it. It is the tournament lobby that creates the confusion.

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Originally Posted by BetOnline Dan
Your comment regarding PKO's is fair but you should also look at the fact that I am not charging fees for the KO side of things. We actually charge the smallest fees in the industry as far as im aware.
Again, the late reg "issue" with PKOs that I brought up isn't a deal breaker for me. I'm merely just trying to make suggestions because I do like playing on this network, and the longer that WPN doesn't deal with their bot issue, I see more and more players moving over to BOL. So, I would like to see your site be as successful as possible. But the issue with such a long late reg on PKOs deals primarily with recreational players. Simply put, they're just going to lose money quicker than they normally would, and this just isn't good for the poker economy. I'd say at least 60-70% of the field that plays PKOs doesn't understand the least bit about PKO math, and they're going to keep re-entering up until the last minute -- not realizing that they're just lighting money on fire. I just think, economically speaking, it would be better for the PKOs to have a shorter late registration period, or keeping the late registration as is but slowing the structure down.


I just want to reiterate that I'm not trying to complain. You, Dan, have been very helpful in my experience, and I'm just trying to give constructive criticism.
01-06-2021 , 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by JMicLett

Everything else looks good to me. I will say I do see RManPT's point about the lack of options for lower stakes MTT players, but I just spread my volume over WPN/Bovada to get around this issue.
I got tired of playing for 8-10h just to get my deep runs canceled, WPN is not an option for me. I have another options but I would love to spend all my money just on BOL, for that to happen we need more volume (as a last resort why not throwing a few freezouts with no guarantee in the mix to fill the schedule on multiple stakes and check on the demand later on? can't have easiest fix) and those tournaments with 2h30+ late reg (<5bb) must be addressed.

      
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