Unreal we finally get a tournament series and its exclusively pko, tf is wrong w u

Yeah they're pushing the pko's a lot. Lots of people in here expressed their concerns over their proliferation but it went unheeded.

No not the same problem at all. As I said we went case by case and made refunds. Again if you still believe that you have not received compensation then feel free to PM me. I never once called anyone a liar and I said that it was completely different circumstances and different issues altogether.

The $33 5k that just started began at t400 with 10k stacks. Has to be a mistake right? Still 20 levels of late reg.

I'm showing 10k ss w first level 40/80. 10 minute levels. Slow blinds increase too. Doesn't look like a mistake.

Must be looking at a diff one?

Yeah misread your post Sasquatch. Thought you said $55. 10k ss at 200/400 for a non-turbo seems wrong. Not sure what happened. There are certain MTT's throughout the schedule I've noticed with little discrepancies like this. I pointed out one to TD Dan about the daily $109 PLO (or possibly PLO8, can't remember) that has a 50k ss while pretty much all the other buy-in levels have a 100k ss. He said it was getting corrected. You may want to PM him about this one so it can get corrected.

It was not like this before and 200/400 is what the 50k ss start at so I assume its a mistake and he possibly forgot to update the ss. I took your advice and PM'd Dan so hopefully he can get this rectified for tomorrow.

Ok. I let him know in the Discord group I'm in with him. I'll let you know if he responds in there.

Hi Mike! I was looking at the promo page for this series and I don't see anything on how leaderboards points are calculated. Is it simply number of KOs? Or does the size of the bounty matters? (say 1 point for standard bounty, 1.5 points for 1.5x starting bounty and so on) Do you get points for cashes/FTs/wins?

Any info you can provide before it starts will be helpful and appreciated

You know it does list how points are calculated on the very webpage Mike posted?

As you play these tournaments, you will be collecting points in our King of the Ring leaderboard. The tournament buy-in determines the weight class and each weight class has its own leaderboard.

Featherweight ($0 - $4.99 buy-ins)
Lightweight ($5 - $19.99 buy-ins)
Middleweight ($20 - $99.99 buy-ins)
Heavyweight ($100+ buy-ins)
Here’s the formula used in each leaderboard:

Tournament Buy-In/Place in the tournament x

Number of entries/100

Say you get 1st in a $11 with 500 entrants.

(11/1) x (500/100) = 11 x 5 = 55 points

Say you get 1st in a $11 with 100 entrants.

(11/1) x (100/100) = 11 x 1 = 11 points

Say you get first in a $22 with 500 entrants.

(22/1) x (500/100) = 22 x 5 = 110 points

Etc.

The way the formula looks, you obviously get more points for taking down a $11 compared to say a $5.50, and you get more points for taking down a 500 player field vs. a 100 player field.

Thanks msw1984, completely missed that section. Strange that they are not giving any points for KOs, seeing that this is KO series

Just wanted to make a comment on the KOTR structures. I've made posts about the structures for the rebuy tournaments, as well as the PKOs, so just reiterating what I've said before.

I, personally, will re-enter into a PKO tournament with 40bb or more. Let's just take a look at the PKO structures for MOSS events on WPN and compare them to the KOTR structures:

WPN
100k starting stack with 10 minute blinds
Re-enter through level 12 (1250/2500/315)
This means I can re-enter into MOSS events for 2 hours
(great structure IMO)

Chico
50k starting stack with 8 minute blinds
Re-enter through level 7 (600/1200/145)
This means I can re-enter for KOTR events for 56 minutes

HUGE difference between the two structures. This can be fixed by slowing down the structure, or shortening the re-entry period. Not only is the reasonable re-entry window period shorter on Chico, the blinds are quicker and the structure is faster.

Hopefully this will be adjusted, as I think this KOTR series could be a solid series with improved structures.

Nice post JMic. I personally feel that TD Dan has done a great job w adding more PLO and PLO8 MTT's to the schedule but agree with you that the structure of these pko's definitely leave some room for improvement.

The KOTR started today and I posted about a lot of discrepancies in some of the PLO and PLO8 tournaments in the series. There's still a $21 (should be a $22, $10+$1+$11 but lobby showing $10+$1+$10), a $55, a $88, and a $104.50 that are still showing a 30k s.s. w 3 minute levels. Dan told me these were placeholders and needed to be QA'd and weren't the final structures. Certainly am a little worried as the series already started and the lobby is still showing these structures. For your 40 bb or more rule JMic, you'd only have the first 7 levels to register/re-enter. A whopping 21 minutes. As is, these have less than 10 bb for the s.s. after one hour of play.

Compare that to a $1.10 and $11 Omaha tournament during the series. 100k s.s. w 8 minute levels. These give you 20 bb's for a s.s. after one hour. There's a separate $21 from the one I mentioned earlier that has a 50k s.s. with 5 minute levels and a bit of a smooth blind increase in the structure that gives 18.75 bb's for s.s. after one hour. There's a $22 that has a 100k s.s. w 10 minute levels. This gives 25 bb's for s.s. after one hour.

Compare all of these to the daily PLO and PLO8 MTT's. All (except the daily $109 PLO which has a 50k s.s. w 10 minute levels and I was told this was a mistake and would be fixed but I can't see it in lobby to verify) have a 100k s.s. w 10 minute levels. Even for the $1.10's!! Yet some of the highest buy-ins for the series are showing a 30k s.s. w 3 minute levels.

I certainly hope these are being changed because I will not play any of the ones with the 30k s.s. structure.

The only thing I see that was changed was that previously #23 was showing as a $15+$3+$15 and has been corrected to a $15+$1.50+$16.50.

I will quote my original post so other Omaha players can be aware and so they double check the structures before registering.

#11 and #48 are now showing as 100k w 10 minute levels. Appears all the others I mentioned have not been corrected.

I know there are plenty of players re-entering up until the last second, but I know as someone who plays for a living, I cut off the re-entries in PKOs at 40bb. I know many other players who sell action have the same rule of thumb.

I've sent Dan a message on Skype giving him a heads up, so hopefully he sees it and makes some changes. I was really looking forward to firing most of these events, but I will have to give that a second thought if the structures aren't improved. As it stands right now with the structures, this KOTR just doesn't compete with the MoMoMo PKO series that WPN runs. If they fix the structures--along with the leaderboards--I would prefer this series over the MoMoMo PKO.

Are all of the NLHE KOTR events 6-max? I've played 2 NLHE ones and both were 6-max. Going to be disappointed if they're all 6-max.

What happens to bounties on a deal made at the final table?

Bump.

Wondering this myself

I've chopped a few bounty MTT's. Not 100%, but I think the bounties get added to remaining prize pool and then that total is split according to the option agreed upon (i.e. ICM, chip chop, or position)

It's hard to tell for certain when I've chopped in the past as I'd have several tables going.

lol how are you making a deal at the FT and not know what youre getting?

I guess I wasn't clear. I know what I'm getting because it gives you how much each place will get in total, it just doesn't break it down showing how much was from the prizepool and how much from bountues.

I meant that I'm not sitting there calculating it all and seeing if it's taking the bounties into consideration or if each place is retaining their own bounties. Because I'm playing multiple tables. It still gives you the total each place will receive.

As of now there are no satellites scheduled in the morning for the Sunday Main. Any plans to have satties up and running?

50% rake on the $200 GTD Titan Turbo. LMAO

Seriously?!?!?!?!?!?! Wasted hours on the phone and chat with your nonsensical customer service with no serious response for the 1/17 incident and now you are offering help, what a joke.

Stopped playing on your site and I hope many other people did as well, it's a joke and you should be embarrassed.