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04-24-2020 , 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by joker115
I don't trust Betonline poker whatsoever. Let me begin by saying that I'm an avid sports fan and I've used their sports betting platform plenty of times. I've successfully cashed out in the past using moneygram, and more recently bitcoin. I've never had any issues regarding payouts. With that being said, I know for a fact that their poker and sportsbook are run completely independently from each other. I was playing one of their turbo (5 min levels) sit n go's, maybe a year ago. It was on a sunday and they were hosting some big tournament with a ton of entrants. I guess this slowed down the server, causing my sit n go table to deal one hand per blind level. Keep in mind that although it was a turbo 6 player sit n go, blind levels were 5 minutes. Players were literally dealt one hand per blind level. After about 20 minutes or so, the game resumed back to normal. I played it out assuming that one of the 2 outcomes would occur:

1. The sit n go is canceled and all players are refunded their original buy in.
2. The sit n go is allowed to stand and the winners keep their prize, but losers are refunded their original buy in.

I placed 3rd or 4th place out of 6, which was out of the money. I contacted betonline chat support and they had no idea what I was talking about. I provided hand history and pleaded with them to see that only one had was dealt per blind level for the first 4 or so levels but they weren't having it. I told them to check the time stamps of all the action that took place. I posted about this awhile back on 2+2 and someone from betonline did ask me to DM them but at that point I had no interest in doing any kind of business with betonline.

The messed up part was the fact that betonline customer service reps had no idea that the poker server had been lagging due to the big tournament that they were hosting. They were pretty much accusing me of lying about the whole situation. For the record, the betonline rep on 2+2 did acknowledge that there had been a server lag that day because of the large tourney. Its just weird that the customer service reps on the chat had no idea about this. For the record i reached out to customer service chat reps two days in a row regarding this matter. You'd think that betonline would send out some sort of company memo to their customer service reps regarding the system lag...

in conclusion, betonline is one shady site that you should stay away from.
Hi Joker,

I am really sorry that this happened to you. I agree that the communication was not great that day, however bet online always give refunds and usually very quickly for issues of this nature.
I personally have dealt with many cases and got the tournament fees refunded.
Strangely I believe it was the dollar insanity tournament that caused the lag last time, which we have planned for this Sunday. It would be a great opportunity for you to see our new tournaments in the schedule.

The offer is still there if you wish me to take a look, I would need your email address and account number.


Kind regards

Mike
04-24-2020 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by thenorcaljew
i clicked a link for 2.5k 200% deposit bonus on https://betonlinepoker.org/
a number 702-273-3614 called me to welcome me to site, claiming that the 2.5k deposit code doesn't exist and there's only 100% deposit bonus up to 1k, is this normal?
I'm not sure what that website is. The official site is BetOnline.ag. I'm not sure how much that .org site is actually affilitated with the official site. That .org site even has ads for their competitors' sites. Linked below is the up-to-date promotions page which lists the 100% First Deposit Bonus.

BetOnline Promotions

A call from a site representative after signing up is normal for them. They call to help you get your account funded and tell you about deposit bonuses.


Quote:
Originally Posted by joker115
I posted about this awhile back on 2+2 and someone from betonline did ask me to DM them but at that point I had no interest in doing any kind of business with betonline.
This is where you went wrong. Their customer service is hit or miss in my experience when it comes to their knowledge about different aspects of the poker room. Contacting the sponsored forum representative, BetOnline Mike, is usually your best bet.

Last edited by MCAChiTown; 04-24-2020 at 01:23 PM.
04-24-2020 , 01:49 PM
Hi, Mike.

About my last post https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...&postcount=127

It's been over a month since you banned those cheaters. Have you got any news? As they were banned, it means that I were right. So I've got some questions:

1. What country were those accounts from?

2. Will be there any compensation to the players who suffered losses?

3. How it happened that you hadn't noticed those cheaters for more than 1 year?

I think they'll try to come back. And I noticed some new accounts with unusual activity.



Also, I want to discuss the structure of tournaments. The present structure isn't suitable for tournaments 55$ +.

Averenge stack 12-15 BB at ITM stage looks more like bingo, not poker.

I need a couple of days to make an adequate structure for regular tournaments.

P.S. Immediately after my post with the exposure of scammers, BOL turned the doomswitch on my account, thanks a lot lol
04-24-2020 , 04:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MCAChiTown
I'm not sure what that website is. The official site is BetOnline.ag. I'm not sure how much that .org site is actually affilitated with the official site. That .org site even has ads for their competitors' sites. Linked below is the up-to-date promotions page which lists the 100% First Deposit Bonus.

BetOnline Promotions

A call from a site representative after signing up is normal for them. They call to help you get your account funded and tell you about deposit bonuses.




This is where you went wrong. Their customer service is hit or miss in my experience when it comes to their knowledge about different aspects of the poker room. Contacting the sponsored forum representative, BetOnline Mike, is usually your best bet.
yeah i don't want that affiliate getting anything from me signing up through that link if i'm not getting 200% up to 2.5k deposit bonus, clickbait garbage
04-24-2020 , 09:41 PM
can you have an account on betonline and sportbetting.ag?
04-24-2020 , 11:07 PM
Does anyone know roughly when the VIP points "freeroll" tournaments run? I have 145k points, no idea if that's enough for one, and went busto on BOL couple weeks back, so haven't been logging on much there but each time I check, I don't see any running Would like to at least use my VIP points up before re-depositing.

Thanks!
04-24-2020 , 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by CantStopTheTilt
Does anyone know roughly when the VIP points "freeroll" tournaments run? I have 145k points, no idea if that's enough for one, and went busto on BOL couple weeks back, so haven't been logging on much there but each time I check, I don't see any running Would like to at least use my VIP points up before re-depositing.

Thanks!
You can only use them for a 22 dollar satty to the main event that runs on Sundays. It only pays out 40 somethings seats no matter how many people enter. So basically your points are useless
04-25-2020 , 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by tiger24
You can only use them for a 22 dollar satty to the main event that runs on Sundays. It only pays out 40 somethings seats no matter how many people enter. So basically your points are useless
1. Do you know how much points the entry costs?

2. Is the satellite also only on Sundays?

I don’t see anything when I filter for VIP points only
04-25-2020 , 04:15 AM
The vip point satellite no longer exists but rest assured the vip point system is in good hands. Mike has promised us a complete overhaul of the vip point system. Many things are in the works behind the scenes. The vip points system team will soon implement an entire new vip point system which will allow players to use vip points. Obviously this will take some time for a complete overhaul of a system of this size but the good thing is your points will keep accumulating in the meantime. Once the new vip point system is released it is possible that your points may once again be usable.
04-25-2020 , 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by thenorcaljew
yeah i don't want that affiliate getting anything from me signing up through that link if i'm not getting 200% up to 2.5k deposit bonus, clickbait garbage
username checks out
04-25-2020 , 09:59 AM
how?
04-26-2020 , 12:11 AM
PLO bots are very easy to spot.

What other reg plays a gazillion hands, battles anyone and yet never plays a single hand on the straddle tables no matter how good the game is?

Stat wise they are ridiculous aggressive and will bet at almost any opportunity.

'Kesy' is the latest playing 2/5
04-26-2020 , 01:51 AM
Good to see this site has cleared up the bot problem once and for all am I right guise?
04-26-2020 , 02:05 AM
Well it's like a whack a mole, one gets banned and another pops up.

Think they're actually doing a better job than several other networks.
04-26-2020 , 07:09 AM
Hello
Would anybody be able to PM me suspected bots for PLO, as I have my suspicions on a number of them but only play on my phone so don’t have specific data.
I believe I’ve played Kesy recently
Thanks in advance
04-26-2020 , 11:29 AM
It wouldn't be possible until you have private messaging enabled on your 2+2 account.
04-26-2020 , 12:33 PM
Finished 2nd in a cash rake race back on April 5th which is supposed to include a main event ticket as part of the prize. Finally have time to play the event today so I go to check my account and of course the ticket has not been credited. So I contact live chat to add the ticket and they tell me "we're busy adding tickets", "the tickets will be added today", etc. Which makes zero sense that they'd be busy adding tickets from 3 weeks ago. So I guess I won't be playing the tournament today. This site man.
04-27-2020 , 03:27 AM
Please do not change the structures in the 55+ maybe add new ones but the reason a lot of people rebuy so much is because we do not have to waste 5+ hours playing like other sites.

I think you guys have a perfect mix right now maybe add some SLOW ones but do not change what you have right now.
05-01-2020 , 09:26 PM
I'm not sure about bots or not but i know one thing - those bots at 100 nl are awful. like if thats the state of bots in 2020 we all got nothing to worry about. i have a couple of names in my db that are likely bots but they are literally playing terribly. no one plays well in that pool.
05-02-2020 , 08:10 PM
Stupid question? Where do I navigate in the BOL menu to find the Boost games. Nothing shows up for me anywhere?
05-03-2020 , 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by socorro01
Stupid question? Where do I navigate in the BOL menu to find the Boost games. Nothing shows up for me anywhere?
Hi socorro01,

In the cash lobby all the boost tables will have a B on the left hand side next to them.

Kind regards

Mike
05-03-2020 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BetOnline Mike
Hi socorro01,

In the cash lobby all the boost tables will have a B on the left hand side next to them.

Kind regards

Mike

Thank you...got it!
05-03-2020 , 05:07 PM
Hi Mike,

Would you spread 6+ (Short Deck) SnG's in the Fast 9 format, please?
05-06-2020 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jamenou
I'm not sure about bots or not but i know one thing - those bots at 100 nl are awful. like if thats the state of bots in 2020 we all got nothing to worry about. i have a couple of names in my db that are likely bots but they are literally playing terribly. no one plays well in that pool.
Millions of dollars have been sucked out of the entire online poker economy over the last half decade due to bots.

I think the big thing that people who have similar thoughts to yourself fail to realize is that it's not that the games are currently unbeatable for the dedicated, like yourself, but the total amount of money that is being pulled out of the games by these cheaters in total.

The bot below has since been banned, but that's not an insignificant amount of money stolen from the games by a single bot account.



Current poker bot proficiency is all over the map. Not unlike real players, some can crush their stakes, some are slight winners, some are break-even, some are slight-losers and some are so poorly configured that they'll almost always lose at the tables in the long-term without an upgrade in strategy. What almost each one of them can do is put in much more volume than any human without ever tilting or losing focus. Their base strategy is almost always good enough to consistently take money off of recreational players. Their increasing presence almost always has a negative effect on most other real players' winrates.

Just because you, I and other dedicated poker players can still win at the tables currently, does not mean that it's ever a good idea to minimize the threat that bots pose to the long-term health of the games. I'd much rather the people who think similar to yourself said nothing about the issue if you're not concerned about the threat that bots and AI pose. Poker is a game that many of us still love to play and would like to be able to continue to enjoy for the foreseeable future without allowing cheaters to prosper.
05-09-2020 , 11:04 PM
BetOnline Mike: There is a lot I like about BetOnline, but how can your site justify taking a 15% admin fee everytime the BBJ is hit (that would be about $60,000 if the jackpot currently hit and that is just one time hitting) and then take another 35% of the jackpot to 'reseed' which means that rollover money just gets taxed 15% over and over as the jackpot gets hit. The whole system seems like a greedy way to scoop up hundreds of thousands a year extra from the poker player pool on top of considerable rake. And then the site claims this is some kind of 'promo' when it's in fact horrible for the players?

Another strike against the BBJ - It also benefits bot and mega grinder / shared accounts who can be on the tables the maximum amount of hours.

      
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