Um, Mike. For those of us thinking of depositing on Chico, and having to pay extra for HUDS, and growing from 25nl to higher, needing some more advanced analytical data (not that I can't do that myself without a solver), this thread and forum is not inducing me to deposit.

Recently, Global left our states market due to regulations (don't ask). I have had folks from my state ask where to play. I have them read this forum, the ACR forum (though that won't work), and the Ignition thread. They are deciding on Ignition, anonymous or not. You have a chance here to bring it home. Folks are reporting you don't want to ban bots because other bots will take their place? Seriously? Email responses? Or is it the profit from the rake.

I welcomed you when you first came. I was hoping for actual progress. Perhaps you might attain that? Would love to play on your site, but not now. Maybe in 2022, if you are still around?

Please provide the proof that somebody working at this network said that. I'm not saying it didn't happen, but that's something that should be shown to be true prior to posting it as fact.

Mike is pretty helpful and he came highly recommended to me as a friend of a friend that knows him. We just got our affiliate stuff straightened out two days after my whining here. I have to believe he helped with that.

It was reported in another thread, which you have been reading. And its not the first one. Of course, they may not be reporting suspected bots to Mike, Check out the HU SNG forum as well.

I haven't read any posted statement from an employee of this network which reads that they don't ban bots because other bots will take their place. If there has been such a statement made in email or live chat or in this forum from a representative then I'd like to see it for obvious reasons.

Open the links to 2+2 threads in the Company Botfarm thread.

I do not have time to research for you, no disrespect. Am studying and replying to multiple threads and forums atm, must play later. Hope you understand (don't be so adversarial, I saw the posts on 2_2, they are there).

Would be lovely if they posted here, methinks some have. Search?

I'm not sure why asking for you to provide further information about statements you make is considered adversarial to you. I apologize if that's how my post came across to you as it was not the intended tone.

I actually read the OP of the thread you are referring to in the Tournament Strategy forum for HUSNGs and Spin and Gos. I had read the thread prior to the post you are referring to being posted and I hadn't returned to the thread since.
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I'm sure that's the reply you were referring to. FWIW I completely disagree with that stance. I also completely disagree with any report that says the Chico Network has had good security in the past if that in any way includes their dealing with the removal and prevention of botting accounts at their poker tables.

Meroving1an pretty much said in the quote below what my response would have been as well.

I have also been actively working with Mike by giving him information related to the cash game bots. For the moment I feel pretty good that we will see some improvement to the situation in the near future. If I don't feel like they're taking the issue seriously then I'll post my findings publicly and move most of my action elsewhere. I completely understand anybody who currently avoids the network because of it.



While the risk level of running a bot at BetOnline has recently been changed to High by some commercially available bot websites, there's an obvious issue right below it. Accounts from the TigerGaming site also play in our games.

I don't even think the most prevalent cash game bots are coming from these websites. I think they're more likely to be the product of a private bot group.

How can Tiger be low and BOL not? Aren't they the same software? Plus, I have seen the warning letters go out to Tiger players as well.

Only 8% of the bots that I'm aware of are BetOnline accounts. The other 92% are TigerGaming accounts.

They use the same software and pool their players together, but they apparently operate as completely separate entities. It seems each room makes the decision on whether to ban an account which belongs to their site.

Hi guys,
It was me who made that comment, and it was a little bit out of context to what I had meant.
I Do not need to post the whole private message that I had sent out of goodwill and even divulged some secret information about the way we are actively trying to tackle the people using prohibited software.

I like Meroving1an and yourself all want the same thing.
I can promise you that bet online wants to rid the whole site of prohibited software. The poker team and I will continue to work hard and hope that we can improve things on the Chico network.

With the help of guys like you MCAChiTown, we will be able to take the Chico network to a higher standard.


Kind Regards

Mike

Hi everyone, would like to warn everyone who thinks playing on Chico Network. Be aware of bots and GTO helpers that are frequently used there.
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That's wonderful, and when should we all expect our refunds for these accounts, Mike?

I know there is a bot issue with the HU SNGs... I wondered about the micro/low MTTs on here?

MTT/HUSNG/SPIN-Windfall-Cash games, are all filled with bots.
And it's no just a statement thrown out of nowhere. Even though I just tested the HUSNG and Windfall field, I talked to players from different disciplines and they all say the same, cash and mtt are full of bots.
You can follow up this thread https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...tfarm-1748840/ to understand where they come from.
You see, right now there are almost no "autonomic bot creators left". They've united in groups, because it takes a lot of money, and sometimes players to make a strong working bot network that will be able to survive.
I know at least 3 networks of bots, some are bigger, some are smaller. 2 out of those 3 networks are operating on chico.
You may ask youself what does it has to do with your question.
The answer is, as soon as 1 bot enters a poker room and goes unpunished, a whole network will come afterwards and they will cover all the disciplines. You can clearly see it on 888/chico/Ipoker/wpn. All those networks are covered by the same bots, sometimes they don't even change their niknames. A good examples are currrr and his pupils that are operating at high limits of HUSNG, you can find most of them with the same niknames across all the networks. And it will also allow you to understand which network is fighting bots, and which one is not. For example currr and his team aren't operating on pokerstars and party poker (they either don't play there or they used to and their account got banned). In rest, they play anywhere else. Right now 3 pokerrooms are battling bots, Pokerstars, party poker and MPN.

how does it make you feel when obvious bots are sitting all days long in the lobby, everyone besides recreational player know they are bots, the site know they are bots, the players know they are bots, and nothing is going on? BUT, the administration tells you that they are looking for a solution. Isn't it ridiculous?
And I wouldn't say a word if chico would tell us right from the beggining, "come and play on our site, we allow bots and operators with helping software". That's fair if they allow it, noone will have to say anything, it's their choice. But when they misinform you, by showing "banned players list", and you deposit expecting to play against other players, well it's a robbery. And someone should be accounted for it.

Because my wife opened an account we broke their terms and and such so they closed the account. Whats nice is they are letting us cash out.(or we will see, Sports Betting by the way). What i find funny is they should try to keep us, we play like agro donks on the omaha tables.....we create more rake than most. But the bots seem to stay, so maybe thats what they do want? Truth be told im a painin the ass to deal with for poker sites so i can see thwm banning me, but i give a lot of action and deposit a bunch.....glgl to all the real players, cheers!

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So just got a call cuz I made account on sportsbook, dude wanted to tell me about bonus's and what not. And basically just told him I'm all set been playing poker forever, have an account on BOL so know how everything works. He tells me you can't play poker on both sites. I try to explain to him that I think it is just "you cannot be logged in on both sites at the same time". Several times, he puts me on hold and "confirms" you cannot have a screen name on both sites, for poker. For sportsbook I can only make sports bet is what he is saying, because I have played on BOL. He was mistaken tho right?

I believe that person was correct. In the previous Chico thread, before the sponsored forum opened, several people posted that they were told the same thing. You can only have one active poker account at a time. If your desire is to make an account on the other site then you should inform your current site of your intentions prior to signing up at the new site. Ask them to close that poker account so that you don't experience any issues playing poker on the new site.

Some other networks have a different policy when it comes to this situation. Ignition and Bovada, as well as the WPN sites, allow you to have multiple accounts on their network as long as you're not playing from multiple accounts at the exact same time.

yikes, glad I never deposited or anything. Figured it was the same as other sites. WOuld like to have the Chico rep confirm tho.

it's true... I had a BetOnline, and created a SportsBetting account about year later... When I tried to do my initial withdrawal from SportsBetting, it was cancelled and I was told I can only have 1 POKER account on the Chico Network (so I closed the BetOnline account). I'm a still able to have both accounts for use in the sportsbook however

Does that mean you cannot have BOL and a TigerGaming account for poker?

Correct. It's one or the other.

That precludes playing while traveling, I guess.

There's very few location restrictions and I believe they've allowed some players to play while traveling when they've made it known to the sites that that is what they were doing.