Its ****ed up that they would ban you for that eason
However given that youve been seat scripting and winning all that money by breaching TOS, my sympathy is limited

gamble just said they are losing.. i dont have hands of all of them.. but pretty sure some of them dont win at plo1k

I assume the operators have a better grasp of whether they are winning or not than gambel on a very limited sample.

These bots are all the same, if one would be losing all of them would, theoretically.

You write publicly that I use the script, which in this situation takes away the ban from the real reason. I do not use the script. The fact that I do not start tables and do not play regvars does not mean that I use a script. I have a second monitor all in the tables and I play 6 tables it is not difficult for me to manually clicking on the remaining tables. I spent a large chunk of life on warcraft and cs, as well as playing 15-18 tables according to the Mcc strategy and it is not difficult for me to sit at the tables in this way and I consider this my advantage. Therefore, it is unpleasant when they blame me for the script.
I have never been active in the forums and now it’s hard for me to defend my position, and I came to seek support from the guys on the forums. I understand that you are a respected and active member of the community here, respect for you. You aslo agree that this is a complete ****ed up by Chico ban for such a thing. But they banned me exactly for this. If they have such good the security service that it detects a simplepostflop when the client is turned off, then it would not be difficult for them to determine the useing script or the other players would catch up me and send evidence, but I was banned for simplepostflop. You are a smart guy. I hope for your understanding and support.

You're lying about having never used a seating script. If you're willing to lie about that then you're willing to lie about other things. If you want help from people in this forum then don't bullshit us.

You’re flat-out lying. You are a scripter and it’s great that you’re banned. Lol @ seeking support. All you scum are the same, you bend and break rules at will, then come crying when you get caught.

Wouldn’t be surprised one bit if you were using another type of banned software and you’re lying about that as well. I would bet $ the software has something to do with your sudden ability to beat the games as well

Move along, cheater. Well done Tigergaming!

Why some players have a 2 ban table.. and some others dont have?

MelkerMuzak
Gamble Gambel
MeanMons
StandUpNDontLean
likeurmoney
Don'tSitDown

These players play almost everyday.. and dont have any ban.
This is ridiculous

what the rake at plo tanles max and headsup. u got run twince feature or insured..?

the reason for blocking me is simple postflop, please do not take the topic aside, they blocked me and confiscated a lot of money, because I installed simple postflop although I did not start it during the game and could not, since I played 888 at the same time if chico has to deal with the rules, let them help sort out the problem.

Are you glad that the tiger banned me for the fact that I have simple postflop installed on my computer? There is a security service with a staff of work experience and equipment for calculating prohibited software. Are you from the security service or maybe you understand better than they?
If you have any problems with scripters and suspicions about everyone else except the three of you, it’s worth creating a topic, writing reports, but I don’t see it

The only reason I can think of is that most of these players start tables and will keep games going playing HU and 3 handed

I don't think players should be banned and have their funds confiscated for having solvers on their computer. I think you made a good suggestion that I have made previously, and that is for the client to snap close if it detects prohibited software running on your computer. I think it's fine for a network to suspend you from playing if they detect prohibited software open while the client is open. I think a warning on first offense, suspension on 2nd offense and a ban on 3rd offense for use of prohibited software would be a good rule. The exception should be bot and real-time assistance users who I think should be banned and have their funds confiscated on first offense. So I would agree that players shouldn't be immediately banned and have their funds confiscated for having SimplePostFlop or any other solver software open, but rather receive a warning followed by a suspension.

The problem is that you're lying about using a seating script. You were certainly using one. Because of that, I have no reason to believe anything else you have to say.

You say "If you have any problems with scripters and suspicions about everyone else except the three of you, it’s worth creating a topic, writing reports, but I don’t see it."

I've wrote about my disdain for the seating script situation at the tables on this forum several times. I'm not going to dig up my posts for you. I have also wrote reports about seating script users to the network representative here, BetOnline Mike. Those you would not be able to see since they were private messages.

The network has stated that seating script use is prohibited. Not only do I actively track NLHE cash game bots on this network, but I also take note of who the seating script users are. It's not possible for non-seating script users to consistently beat seating script users to the best seats at a table. Because of that fact, it's not hard to identify who the seating script users are. They are the players who consistently get the best seats when a table starts to fill. I have a large list with the names of these players. Your name was on it for good reason.

^^^ I was about to post the exact same thing, just less nicely worded. I can second every word in that post.

nope. 100% bumhunters

While I do think that seat-scripting is bad, let's not jump to conclusions and accuse the person without any proof. Moreover, scripting is not the point. Afaik rooms do not confiscate money cause of scripting. These are two separate issues.

However, I do believe that the pokerroom should not confiscate money unless they present any sort of proof about the severity of wrongdoing that could explain their decision. Having simple postflop just installed on the PC is a new one for me. Do they really want us to buy a separate PC just to play on a small network?

No conclusions have been "jumped to." I've played enough online poker to be able to identify seating script users with certainty. I don't even accuse players of cheating unless I'm absolutely certain. Sure, I could record the tables all day to show the proof to anybody who questions me about who I accuse, but I have a pretty good track record of trying to maintain the integrity of the games, so I don't feel like it's absolutely necessary. I could also ask several more players other than just NiNzent and Oladipo to chime in and confirm what I'm saying as true, but both of them also have good track records when it comes to trying to maintain the integrity of the games.

Like I said, I agree that these types of prohibited software should not lead to an immediate ban and confiscation of funds. My issue with this person is that they've shown that they're willing to break the rules and also lie about it. Because of that, I can't just take their word that they were only just banned for a minor offense like having SimplePostFlop on their computer, instead of other possible reasons.


I'm not sure if that is completely necessary. What is necessary is making sure that prohibited software is not open while the client is open. I know players who have Pio installed on their computers, make sure that none of the processes are running while the client is open, and have never gotten a warning. If they're happening to detect it when it's not open then it does appear necessary to remove it from your computer.

Did you read my post? There are letters from Chico where it says why they blocked me. I can send a screenshot from email if you think I wrote this letter myself

Maybe because they don’t win much? Yes, apparently, they find it when the client is closed. But no one notified me about this and I continued to use it with a closed client and got a ban for it.

They did not even bother to send an official letter with the reason for the block, for which they blocked it, when and why. For each letter of my request for explanation, they send: “After a thorough review of your account, we have decided to terminate our business relationship with you. Effective immediately, your account will remain permanently disabled.
We ask you to refrain from opening new accounts. Should we encounter new accounts opened by you or for you, we will close the account and confiscate all funds.
Thank you for your cooperation and understanding. ” They just respond with macros.

Did I read your post? So not only are you a cheater and a liar, but you're also an ***hole.

I never said or even implied that you wrote the email letters yourself. If you think that the screenshots of the emails will help your case then feel free to post them. I don't know why you wouldn't have done that in the first place. The fact that you can provide some emails from them doesn't take away from the fact that you used a seating script and are now lying about it. This makes it more likely that you would withhold posting communications from them that you do not want us to see.

I've stated before that I definitely think there should be an official list on the rules pages of each of the sites on the network about what poker software is and isn't prohibited to use at their tables. I don't think it's a good stance to close people's accounts for them innocently having 3rd party poker software on their computers that they didn't realize was prohibited. If this was the case in your situation, as you state, then I don't think it's the right thing for them to have done. I'm not arguing that point.

I never said that your account was justifiably closed. I don't know all of the details. The only thing I've said is that you've used a seating script and you are now lying about it, so anything you say has to be questioned. I might not have even entered the conversation if I didn't see you lie. I might have even lent my support, as I have done with others in this forum, if I didn't know you to have used prohibited software.

Several of the players who I've spoken with who still have Pio on their computers are winning players. I can't confirm if they're some of the winningest players on the network since I don't play as much 1kNL, and I never played 2kNL when they had it, but I'm certain some of them have won at least as much as you claim you did when your account was banned.

I've ran pretty good back in the day when there was NL2K running and I had no problem at all.

Hi. I am from SimplePoker team, one of Simple Postflop developers.
users wrote to us a couple of times about the issue described in the quoted post, we tried several times to contact the support of the chico network poker rooms, firstly to discuss the situation, understand why they didn’t allow having simple postflop installed on the computer, and thirdly to find a compromise solution. we did not receive a single answer from them, all our letters were ignored.
we posted information about this problem in the news section on our website: https://simplepoker.com/en/News/We_r...ker_Network_85
in my personal opinion: the behavior of the network is inadequate, the level of support is poor, they can come up with a reason at any time to confiscate your funds

I did not offend you.
Thank you for the adequate assessment of the actions of the room and in principle for your sincere opinion.
I also know people who won more than me, but stopped the game due to fear of ban for a long time. Now they open the client once a week to make a cashout. You know who are they. But I continued to play, naive.

How many of your other customers have been banned and had their funds confiscated for that same reasoning in the post you quoted?

The article you wrote has the following emails from the network to one of your players.

Those emails sound reasonable enough about what they're asking your customers to do. It doesn't say that you are now immediately banned and we're taking your funds since we detected this software on your computer. It says please remove the software and then contact us to update the status of your account. And that if it is detected again then you might have issues where your account could be "temporarily blocked."

I agree with some of the points you make in your article. I think it would be nice of them to have a feature that snap closes their client when prohibited software is detected to be running.

If you haven't done so already, try to contact the network representative here via private message, BetOnline Mike. He might be able to pass your questions and comments on to the appropriate decision-makers better than the customer support representatives at those email addresses you attempted to contact them with.

Chico has banned the player with confiscation for having simplepostflop installed on his PC. It is easily verifiable through local logs whether he has or has not started the application on the computer. I don't see it likely that a player receiving warnings would be dumb enough to keep using it after being given explicit warnings and a temporary ban, lol. If he really needed to, he could have installed it on another PC.

A confiscating ban without any explanation or request to delete SimplePostflop from the computer of such a big sum (26k) smells like outright theft by Chico (specifically Tigergaming), who supposedly have financial liquidity problems due to Covid19.

I've been reading his thread he posted on the Russian gypsyteam forum. Even there, several players know that he is a seating script user. There are also players there saying that they have received a warning or know somebody else who has received a warning for using SimplePostFlop, but nobody else is saying that they've been banned and had their funds confiscated for using it. Why would they single out this one player with a ban and confiscation? Something is not adding up.

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