Yes they want make your life difficult but the reason why is a total mystery....
As I far as I know this restriction only concerns regular winners .
I play plo there since a while 5/5 + . I m not using seating script, or a forbidden software... I didnt do anything wrong and neither the others. I just know that we all won quite good in March.


I really try to understand their motivations, knowing that many new regs have arrived and some of them are crushing!!! there are certainly some who have created new accounts to get around this restriction.
in any case, if you are a long term winner you can be the next one...

What's your screen name?

as long as I have money on the network. I will not communicate my nickname ..

I don't trust them. many have already had their bankroll seized without reason and without explanation.

the skin is good, there is action but the management is awful.
I tried to ask them why there is this restriction.
I was just told that in their general conditions they had the right to do so and that was it.
believe me if you do something wrong. they won't hesitate for a second to grab your roll. it will not be a simple restriction.

they have no respect for users. everything is done continuously to maximize their profits. for example vip points. it is purely and simply a scam. but again they have all the rights

Haven't played much since UIGEA at all, but was a consistent longterm winner at $1/$2 to $3/$6 NL and wanted to fool around online again.

How bad are the bots at lower limits like $10NL up to $200NL? Don't have any fears of not being able to beat stuff like $25NL, but curious if it's just filled with decently optimal bots? Are these games tough now?

Seems like this is only decent alternative to anonymous tables in my state, but if I'm sitting with bots, I might as well just do anonymous with a bigger player pool.

Would greatly appreciate any general advice on a low cash game overview. It's been a decade for me lol

2 other bots (yennifer and king leoric) are back too

I would recommend anonymous tables if that's your only alternative. BOL bots have been found at pretty much every stake. From my experiences playing with them, they were easily the biggest winners in the games. Another thing that hurts is BOL's rake is some of the highest in the industry.

I only have experience up to 25nl at BOL, so perhaps some midstakes regs can fill in the gaps for me.

The situation fluctuates. From what I've seen and heard from others is that many of the bots have been absent for the last couple of weeks. You can contact me via private message and I can give you a bot guide to identify them.

Games are tougher on average than they were a decade ago almost everywhere, especially the higher up in stakes you go, but they're certainly still beatable for the dedicated.

This guy always open sits tables just so he can play the button and sit out, he has done this countless of times, its disgusting
And what am I supposed to do when he is sitting on the tables?

He is also a camper

Another bot "ArchieBALD" back aswell

Good to know. Thanks.

Hi!

I am a regular on the PLO500-PLO1K tables on the Chico network.

It was recently brought to my attention that a large portion of regulars in these games, and at lower stakes I have been told, are bots.

This is the same ring that has been active on the Americas Cardroom / Winning Poker-network as well as IPoker.

I have been in contact with the representatives working for Chico and pressed them multiple times for an e-mail or a contact number to anyone working on the security department, offering any support. They have not seemed very interested in this, and I have never received any follow-up on my e-mails or chat-sessions.

The original bot using this software on the Chico-Network played under the nickname SorttMetal. About a year ago, myself and a large group of other regulars reported this player and brought to light the similarities in play-style they all share. It is unclear whether he was banned or just retired the account as I never received a reply from Chico.

Their playing-style is extremely different from any other regular player. I will quickly go over the most obvious statistics and illustrate them using some statistics put together by another regular in the games.

Preflop
These players share the exact preflop-ranges. You will see slight fluctuations in regulars raise first-ins specifically.

Flop Float Betting / Bet vs Missed CBet IP
These players all stab about 75% vs a check from a preflop raiser. This is very far from an optimal solution, and very far from any other regs statistic. I am yet to see any other reg with a number over 50% in this specific spot, yet this group of players all stab another 25% on top of that.

CBetting 100% IP MW
All of these players continuation bet close to 100% when in position in multiway pots. You will never find a regular player betting over 50% in this situation, yet this sample of players all have adopted the strategy of betting their entire range in position in multiway pots.

Needless to say this is very far from optimal and I have yet to see any other regular in my career of PLO playing over a 50% bet strategy in this situation.

There are more statistics to dig into, but in order to prove that these are the same bots as on ACR, that ChicagoJoey brought to light last year, I will provide statistics gathered by another reg as well as a comparison of the statistics which Joey put together last year over the ACR bots.

The list of current nicknames which I find undoubtedly being bots (I have several other suspicious accounts but since I can not verify these I will leave them of the list for now).

Berest
LopTop
chromaster
frisbi
lucky_beast
lodyrev
Seyran
MoggyGinzo
JaxWIN
Kalazard
wakeKite



These players combined win at around 8bb/100 from samples I have seen.

Below I will attach print-screens of statistics compiled by another regular in the games who has played more against these bots than I have.



ChicagoJoey compilation of Bot-statistics from ACR

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

I will again offer my time and help to anyone working at Chico trying to sort this out. There is obviously no doubt that this is the same bot-ring that is active on other networks. The lack of interest in resolving this situation from Chicos side is quite alarming.

I believe it would be in the best interest of all parties if this was sorted out and we could restore the integrity of the games.

I would also like to add that none of these players played the Straddle-tables up until recently, at which point all of them started playing those games regularly as well.

This should be a huge red flag for any security team.

I play the same games and agree with everything.

I believe there's actually several more accounts (Keeper, Kesy and some I'm forgetting).

The Cbet multiway IP stat is just ridiculous.

The other notable stats are flop float and probe turn.

I am agree !

everyone is unanimous. these are the same names that come up every time and we all have the same analysis ....

it is probably possible that these bots can share some cards (see plo bots on pokerstars a few years ago)

Yes, those two fit the same profile. There are a few more I will wait to name because I do not have enough evidence to be 100% certain.

As I said, I would be more than happy to take an afternoon out of my time to talk with the security team at Chico to discuss this. Surely taking action against this must be beneficial for both parties and in the interest of the site in order to remain any shred of reputation.

These bots make up almost 50% of the reg-pool on the 2/5+ games right now and I see many of them mixing stakes all the way between /0.5 and /10.

I am yet to receive any e-mail reply from the network regarding this.

Talked with other regs to confirm two more accounts:

Stoner248
Jump_Up

Full list of Known Bots at this point:

Berest
LopTop
chromaster
frisbi
lucky_beast
lodyrev
Seyran
MoggyGinzo
JaxWIN
Kalazard
wakeKite
Stoner248
Jump_Up
Keeper
Kesy

I play plo1k reg aswell and have a 2table ban :/

chromaster and lodyrev maybe bots .. but they are terrible. doubt that they are winning at all

These are 15 accounts in total, same bot, and over the samples I have seen they are winning 8bb/100.

i have 38k hands on all those accounts combined and they are down 9.5bb/100

leave em be, ha

I agree, the PLO bots are pretty easy to exploit. I'd rather have a bot than a crappy reg at my table. I'd be surprised if they are doing well at PLO 500 or 1k. The fact that many are playing those stakes kinda makes me want to come back to BOL.

They can be a nightmare to play against if you are running even slightly bad because they are just so relentlessly aggressive, but yes over time you can exploit them and have a decent sized edge.

However, even if the regs can exploit them they are still averaging positive winrates and taking money out of the system by fleecing recs.

Yah, I agree, they're terrible for the ecosystem. Up to PLO 200 they're winning enormously and day in, day out they're at the tables demolishing casual players.

If those bots wont win at those "high limits" would their owner put them there?
probably not.
So the answer is pretty common - they are making profit there.

Hello everyone!

I registered and now am writing here, as I hope to find help and maybe help others.
I will say right away, that the Chico network blocked me with forfeiture of ~ $ 26,000, for using simplepostflop, OMG!
I have been playing in Chico during more than a year on a regular basis, almost every day. There have never been any complaints and problems with me at Chico. Started playing NL200 in the finals played NL500-1000. In addition, throughout the year, like many, I worked on my game using simplepostflop. Over this year, I have not won much money online. But, what is remarkable, in the last 1-2 months I won 80% of all money that I won in Chico. We know that there have been cases of restrictions on the number of tables for the game for players who win a lot. Maybe I'm overreacting, but I'm just trying to describe the situation in as much detail as possible. So:
May 12. I receive a letter with a temporary blockage of the following content:

“We have detected that you have been using a prohibited 3rd party software (simplePostFlop) while playing on the poker client.
In the interests of security and to protect the integrity of the game, we do not permit the use of automated software applications at Tigergaming. Your account is now under investigation to ensure no unfair advantage was gained while using external software. Should that be the case, we will be forced to take the appropriate action in accordance with our Fair Play Policy. In some cases this requires that we close your account, confiscate all funds, and impose a permanent ban from playing at Tigergaming and all network sites.”

Further, the corresponding department did not answer my letters, I tried to get at least some information in the live chat, but there they could not say anything and only time was given. First 24 hours, then 48 hours, then 72 hours, then more than 72 hours, well, I scored and started to wait. As a result, the entire check lasted about 2 weeks, but no one sent me a letter with information that I was unblocked and, if this happens again, they will block me permanently. I realized that they unblocked me when one day i opened the client and logged in by myself.
After that, the contented one started playing, but not for long the music was playing, after 3 days I open the room and there again the blocked. There is no letter from the security service, I am waiting for 24h, there is no letter. I'm going for information in life chat. They don’t know anything and again send a request to the security service. After that, the next day I receive the following letter:

“After a thorough review of your account, we have decided to terminate our business relationship with you. Effective immediately, your account will remain permanently disabled.
We ask you to refrain from opening new accounts. Should we encounter new accounts opened by you or for you, we will close the account and confiscate all funds.
Thank you for your cooperation and understanding.”

I also asked the chat to find out whether it is possible to use simplepostflop with the client turned off, in order to protect other players in the future, because maybe the poker client collects logs in the off state, to which they answered me: We have already broken the contract with you and will not respond. WHAAAT? Summary: For these 3 days I used simplepostflop with extreme caution. Since only 3 days have passed since the unlock and the emotions of blocking the account with a large amount of money for me have not yet been released. Of course, I will not start pokerclient and simplepostflop at the same time. Everybody will double-check everything 100 times on the first emotions.

The second point is that I play some pokerrooms and I always have all poker clients open, and as we know, when some pokerrooms are open, there is an auto-exit from simplepostflop, it just does not let it start. Which makes the blocking reason absurd.
Third point: I worked with simplepostflop and played in Chico for more than a year, and I have to believe that during this period it never happened that Сhico client was opened, because we know that with other rooms simpleposflop cannot be open, and then Chico suddenly determine 2 violations in a week, given that in the previous month I won 80% of all the money, which in general I won in Chico for all the time.
The only option that I see that they blocked me for simplepostflop is if the client saves some launch logs of other software on the computer when pokerclient is turned off, or they made a mistake and blocked me by the old startup logs.
Maybe one of you knows how to use simplepostflop with Chico? And what advantage can I get with simplepostflop as for me it is physically impossible to play and count in simplepostflop simultaneously.