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05-27-2020 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BetOnline Mike
Hi Devo

I was just told that the investigation has been completed and that you have been sent a message to your personal email address.

I encourage you to post the reply in the forum, but obviously that is totally up to you.

Please let me know if there is anything else I can do for you.

Kind regards
Mike
You're either in on this scam and are getting paid or this has to disgust you like it does everyone else.

How much longer are you gong to be employed by these bunch of scumbag thieves?
05-27-2020 , 08:46 PM
This site is crooked.

Cheating a player out of a bbj?

Unreal
05-27-2020 , 09:28 PM
I personally think its just really unlucky, I have played on loads of sites and disconnected thousands of times and if you don't get back in time your hand gets mucked.

The BBJ before the hand requirement change was dropping roughly 4 times a month, I think in April it was won 5 times.

Its sickening and I totally understand how he must be feeling but its just really shitty luck.

Mike
05-27-2020 , 09:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BetOnline Mike
I personally think its just really unlucky, I have played on loads of sites and disconnected thousands of times and if you don't get back in time your hand gets mucked.

The BBJ before the hand requirement change was dropping roughly 4 times a month, I think in April it was won 5 times.

Its sickening and I totally understand how he must be feeling but its just really shitty luck.

Mike
Unlucky? And what were the people who had hundreds of thousands in player points stolen from them by betonline. Were they just unlucky?

And how bout the people who got taken by the corrupt live blackjack game you tried to run? I guess they were just unlucky too.

Just give us the amount you can be bought for you fvcking corrupt prick.

Unlucky, lol
05-27-2020 , 09:47 PM
Hey Mike, I tried to help you before. Don't say I wasn't on your side for a brief moment when you made your promises to me about "things being looked into" and "the security team has taken care of things" - I released to you a test, and when that test score came back is when I realized what is actually happening.

Now look at you now. You have to go bed at night feeling icky that you are part of an illegal operation that does everything it can to steal money from it's client base. And now the entire forum knows this truth.

At the end of the day you are the face and voice of this illegal operation. So all the justified anger and distaste for this illegal operation rests on your shoulders.

We understand that you may not have many other job opportunities to allow you to resign from your current position. A mans gotta eat sort of thing.

But just like Sarah Huckabee Sanders fronted for Trump, you front for Bet Online. If you don't like a dozen players labeling you as things you believe you are not, then the only way to resolve this inner conflict is to resign and post everything you know about this illegal enterprise and to join our fight in making it crash and burn.

Godspeed to you, Mike. You've been a worthy adversary but I still feel there is hope left for you to do the right thing. I would write up an enthusiastic referral to any new job interests if you turned into a whistle blower. Another option you have is to set up a fake account and message me through 2+2. Nobody would ever know it was you. Then you would have a lot of weight taken off your shoulders.

Last edited by p0ker_n00b; 05-27-2020 at 09:54 PM.
05-28-2020 , 06:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by p0ker_n00b
Hey Mike, I tried to help you before. Don't say I wasn't on your side for a brief moment when you made your promises to me about "things being looked into" and "the security team has taken care of things" - I released to you a test, and when that test score came back is when I realized what is actually happening.

Now look at you now. You have to go bed at night feeling icky that you are part of an illegal operation that does everything it can to steal money from it's client base. And now the entire forum knows this truth.

At the end of the day you are the face and voice of this illegal operation. So all the justified anger and distaste for this illegal operation rests on your shoulders.

We understand that you may not have many other job opportunities to allow you to resign from your current position. A mans gotta eat sort of thing.

But just like Sarah Huckabee Sanders fronted for Trump, you front for Bet Online. If you don't like a dozen players labeling you as things you believe you are not, then the only way to resolve this inner conflict is to resign and post everything you know about this illegal enterprise and to join our fight in making it crash and burn.

Godspeed to you, Mike. You've been a worthy adversary but I still feel there is hope left for you to do the right thing. I would write up an enthusiastic referral to any new job interests if you turned into a whistle blower. Another option you have is to set up a fake account and message me through 2+2. Nobody would ever know it was you. Then you would have a lot of weight taken off your shoulders.
I take back my criticism of you bashing him back in the day, pretty warranted now
05-28-2020 , 07:24 AM
I do really feel for Devo, but I don't think the decision is as simple as a lot of people think
First of all I can't imagine that BOL employees are actively monotiring the games and then disconnect someone who is about to hit a BBJ
He was using wifi and also internet providers do suck since covid and sometimes you are not able to connect to some servers while able to communicate with some others, I don't know exactly how it works, but I had this happen a few times since the Chinaflu hit Europe

So since the problem was very, very likely on his site if they would pay out the jackpot in hindsight they would face two problems:
1.) I have reason to believe that BOL doesn't have the best programmers. Having the BBJ go off in hindsight might be a challange and leave them open to a lot of bugs in the future.
2.)A lot of people play there because of the BBJ and they all would be upset if the amount got lowered in hindsight and probably feel scammed too. It is impossible to make everyone happy here.

However not doing anything is pretty -EV for them in my opinion. If I the BOL management and didn't want to pay it out for said reasons, I would've probably offered Devo 5 or 10k if he won't mention it anymore, since the damages this will bring are going to be more for certain.
05-28-2020 , 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by NINzent
I do really feel for Devo, but I don't think the decision is as simple as a lot of people think
First of all I can't imagine that BOL employees are actively monotiring the games and then disconnect someone who is about to hit a BBJ
He was using wifi and also internet providers do suck since covid and sometimes you are not able to connect to some servers while able to communicate with some others, I don't know exactly how it works, but I had this happen a few times since the Chinaflu hit Europe

So since the problem was very, very likely on his site if they would pay out the jackpot in hindsight they would face two problems:
1.) I have reason to believe that BOL doesn't have the best programmers. Having the BBJ go off in hindsight might be a challange and leave them open to a lot of bugs in the future.
2.)A lot of people play there because of the BBJ and they all would be upset if the amount got lowered in hindsight and probably feel scammed too. It is impossible to make everyone happy here.

However not doing anything is pretty -EV for them in my opinion. If I the BOL management and didn't want to pay it out for said reasons, I would've probably offered Devo 5 or 10k if he won't mention it anymore, since the damages this will bring are going to be more for certain.
The problem was NOT on his side. He posted a 2nd video showing how it looks when he loses internet connection and disconnects.

And it doesn't not match up with how it looks during the bbj hand. They deliberately ftoze him from being able to act, mucked his hand, then immediately "reconnected" him to the game once his cards were folded.

Blatant theft.
05-28-2020 , 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Raisin
The problem was NOT on his side. He posted a 2nd video showing how it looks when he loses internet connection and disconnects.

And it doesn't not match up with how it looks during the bbj hand. They deliberately ftoze him from being able to act, mucked his hand, then immediately "reconnected" him to the game once his cards were folded.

Blatant theft.

Why would BetOnline Pay out millions of dollars in bbj promotions for years now. Pay out over 10 in the last 2 months, most recently the 19th May, now randomly decide to not pay out?

Even though it will indeed pay out again shortly, and it will be posted like all of the other previous winners here.

https://promotions.betonline.ag/bad-beat-jackpot

Many of the players in the forum have won the BBJ and many others won money from participating.
05-28-2020 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by BetOnline Mike
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Many of the players in the forum have won the BBJ and many others won money from participating.
Name these "many players"....
05-28-2020 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by MCAChiTown
It was, and still is, being handled poorly.

Here's how it could/should have been handled to not piss off as many players as they have.
  1. An email sent out to all of their players saying that the VIP points program would be ending soon, but something will be taking its place in the future. Email would state what day points would stop accumulating on and a give a date further in the future(a month or 2) when VIP points would stop being accepted for the current options.
  2. Points stop accumulating on the given date.
  3. Players are given a month or 2 to use up their remaining points on the existing options.
  4. All points disappear after that date.
  5. Some new system is point in its place.

That would still suck since they obviously wouldn't be replacing the old rewards program with a better one, but at least their players who had built up a ton of points wouldn't be nearly as angry about how they went about it, as well as feeling like they were lied to and stolen from.
I love looking at millions of VIP points...seriously, it may actually worse to still be accruing them and being shown how many you have without being able to use them.
05-28-2020 , 11:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BetOnline Mike
I personally think its just really unlucky, I have played on loads of sites and disconnected thousands of times and if you don't get back in time your hand gets mucked.

The BBJ before the hand requirement change was dropping roughly 4 times a month, I think in April it was won 5 times.

Its sickening and I totally understand how he must be feeling but its just really shitty luck.

Mike
Haha. There's no way in hell that you actually believe this. I know this is your "job", but even the most delusional employee can see the writing on the wall. I can't wait until there's no one left on this site but the house bots. It's coming soon. This is just another chapter in the story.
05-28-2020 , 11:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Check Raisin
They deliberately ftoze him from being able to act, mucked his hand, then immediately "reconnected" him to the game once his cards were folded.
Show proof. Not even the unfortunate player believes that to be the case. It makes no logical sense based on the previous history of the promotion.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Check Raisin
Name these "many players"....
I can introduce you to the guy who last won it for $80k about a month ago if you join our Discord group.

https://discord.gg/ScNfKgc


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Originally Posted by moss84
I love looking at millions of VIP points...seriously, it may actually worse to still be accruing them and being shown how many you have without being able to use them.
Totally agree. I'd rather not have the constant reminder.
05-28-2020 , 12:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BetOnline Mike
Why would BetOnline Pay out millions of dollars in bbj promotions for years now. Pay out over 10 in the last 2 months, most recently the 19th May, now randomly decide to not pay out?

Even though it will indeed pay out again shortly, and it will be posted like all of the other previous winners here.

https://promotions.betonline.ag/bad-beat-jackpot

Many of the players in the forum have won the BBJ and many others won money from participating.
Likely because it would appear many of the people winning the BBJ are house accounts, just like your bot accounts are likely house accounts, because you obviously have a liquidity problem. Everything points to it.

The house of cards will fall soon, Mike. Either you get out now or you go down with the ship.
05-28-2020 , 12:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MCAChiTown
I can introduce you to the guy who last won it for $80k about a month ago if you join our Discord group.

https://discord.gg/ScNfKgc
Obviously our definition of "many" is different.

Par for the course though.
05-28-2020 , 12:39 PM
Yeah, I don't know that I could satisfy your definition of "many" for 2+2ers who have won it. I could satisfy the definition of a "handful" of 2+2ers who have won it. I could also satisfy the definition of "several" 2+2ers who have won large shares of it.

I also know which winners have been bot accounts and which ones weren't.
05-28-2020 , 01:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MCAChiTown
Yeah, I don't know that I could satisfy your definition of "many" for 2+2ers who have won it. I could satisfy the definition of a "handful" of 2+2ers who have won it. I could also satisfy the definition of "several" 2+2ers who have won large shares of it.

I also know which winners have been bot accounts and which ones weren't.
I'll accept you know some real people won it. I'm a little less interested in that info because it doesn't surprise me they'd let some real people win it.

What bot accounts have won? That's more interesting to me.
05-28-2020 , 01:23 PM
BetOnline Jackpot Promotion

From the list in that link the bot winners were:

Lunarian
Whitefang
Degtev

And at least one of the first 5. I think it was Tyrant.
05-28-2020 , 01:40 PM
TBH, I think the "BetOnline tries to award the BBJ to bots/house players" narrative is a big nothing burger and should probably be dropped to focus on actual pressing issues.

If anything, bots have won the BBJ at a rate that is proportionately far lower than the overall proportion of hands they have played.
05-28-2020 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by MCAChiTown
BetOnline Jackpot Promotion

From the list in that link the bot winners were:

Lunarian
Whitefang
Degtev

And at least one of the first 5. I think it was Tyrant.
So we have numerous bots/house accounts that have won the bad beat.

Who are some of the other 2+2ers that have hit it?
05-28-2020 , 02:23 PM
StevieSparkz won one on May 10th for $80k.

From the list in that link I know:

Urchin
Peacefull
GirlPokerz
HP58

And I've spoken to several other listed winners on regular occasion at the tables.

If you've won, we've spoken and I forgot that you're a 2+2er then I apologize. I think there was at least one more.

That's just the winners. Even I've been at the winning table twice. I'm pretty sure a few 2+2ers have been the winner of the hand as well. Can't remember everybody.

Last edited by MCAChiTown; 05-28-2020 at 02:29 PM.
05-28-2020 , 03:41 PM
the dude was playing from his family business wifi... on bad setup.. god knows how many tables he was playing.... why would a site not pay a promotion that is meant for players.. is not like they will keep the 350K.... sorry dude that is a real bad beat..
05-28-2020 , 04:24 PM
Stated he has great internet on new laptop and was 1-tabling at the time.
05-28-2020 , 05:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BetOnline Mike
I personally think its just really unlucky, I have played on loads of sites and disconnected thousands of times and if you don't get back in time your hand gets mucked.

The BBJ before the hand requirement change was dropping roughly 4 times a month, I think in April it was won 5 times.

Its sickening and I totally understand how he must be feeling but its just really shitty luck.

Mike
if the roles were reversed would you just think ahhh shucks bad luck????
05-28-2020 , 05:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MCAChiTown
Stated he has great internet on new laptop and was 1-tabling at the time.
why would he say otherwise?!

      
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