Not much. They're essentially worthless if you have a lot of them like most cash players who play above the microstakes do.

They offer a weekly satellite MTT where the top 45 players win a ticket to the Sunday Main Event. The bad thing is that no matter how many players enter the total amount of tickets stays at 45. It's a 45 tickets maximum tournament. There could be 2,000 entrants and it would only give a ticket to 2% of the entrants. It probably only averages a few hundred entrants each week, but it's still set up in a pretty shitty way that diminishes the prize with each extra entrant after the first 45.

Hey thanks for the offer, I just made an account here for the sole purpose of PMing you but I cannot figure out how to...

I am planning on moving up from 10NL to 25NL and have IDd bots on 10NL and been able to exploit them to success, but don't want to lose a few buyins on 25NL before I figure out the scene so would appreciate any info you have there

You need to make more posts throughout the forums for private messaging to be enabled on your account. Try to find a handful of threads that interest you and make a comment or question in them, preferably good ones.

It shouldn't take too long for private messaging to be enabled if you do that. Once you're able to private message I would be happy to share that information with you.

was very interested in putting money on here but skeptical after reading the apparent poor job the site is doing vs taking down bots

can anyone tell me how the plo action is or if there's been any concern over plo bots etc?

also why does mcafee tell me its virus when i try to install the exe file?

I can help answer the PLO BOT question. Earlier posts in this thread throw a lot of complaints regarding the bots/seat scripts killing PLO games.

Hi Guys,

Please remember if you have any stats or info on suspected bot accounts send this to me in a private message.

Kind regards

Mike

Please do something about this Mr.Peace88 guy, he regulary camps and grims

When did they bump the BBJ to QQQQ beat???

Must have been in the last week or so. Prior to that, if you lost with Quad 2s you qualified. It had been that way for over 6 months. Prior to that 6 months or so, it would start at Quad Jacks and the requirements would gradually be lowered as the jackpot grew.

*Both players need to use both hole cards, must go to showdown and a minimum of 4 players have to be dealt into the hand on specially marked 100NL+ Bad Beat Jackpot tables.

When the site started hemorrhaging money once the sportsbook lost all its revenue and they started stripping player benefits left and right to make up for their gradual slide to insolvency. I'm sure someone got canned from letting that hit.

List of current bots at the 2/5 and 5/10 No Limit tables:

SunSwiftness, s1lentsh0t, glowingclot, ArchieBald, Lunarian, yennifer, Ramonak

I would recommend avoiding them at least if 2 or more of them at the same table, since they are run by the same operator (they all disconnected at the same time today) and there is a good chance that they are in fact colluding: http://hand2note.com/Hands/Hand/clHp...MobruOcA%3D%3D

That hand is more than a little shady...

10PLO Bots:

PyroPyro
soapOpera

25PLO Bot:

Salat

Can't figure out how to embed and image here, but a quick search of the first two names shows they have been reported several times, going back a year.

I get this is the lowest stakes, but it is bad for the entire ecosystem.

I emailed support 10 days ago and have not recieved a response.

Mike, can you let me know what you guys have in place to address this issue?

Thanks in advance.

Add to the list of PLO10 bots:

PARpero

I've been playing a lot more recently, getting up to platinum status. Does this do anything? Can you use FPP's for anything?

Hello!Maybe someone knows if I can play BOP using a monitor that was previously used by another player?

And yet they are still at the tables as of today.


The star rank has always just been an indication of what players pay the most rake. Most cash game regs at higher stakes have the red star indicating they're Elite rake payers.

The VIP points are essentially worthless now unless you make less than 50k points a week. Prior to a year ago you could use them to enter a variety of MTTs. There's now only one or two. Go to the MTT lobby and filter for VIP points. Those are your only options to use the points.


I can't see how using a preowned monitor would cause any issues.

I recently started playing the 1/2 and 2/5 NL games here. Hopefully 2/5 and 5/10 in the future cause on 1/2 I'm getting raked like there's no tomorrow

What's there to know? is 2/5 a botfest? are we gonna be able to get at least a sweatshirt with those vip points someday?

see u at the tables

Another PLO session of battling Bots. I have posted in this thread and emailed support and not received as much as a token "we're looking into it" email.

I don't know what all goes into bot detection, and I imagine it's not easy, but something needs to be done.

These players are certainly bots. They are hurting your PLO games and making them unfair. They play insane hours of micro stakes, never tilt, never change style, never chat, always take the same amount of time on decisions, crush the games, and never move up.

soapOpera
PyroPro
PARpero
Salat

It gets BetOnline their rake money, they do not care. They will only care if a lot of people start cashing out and stop playing.

Salat has been around for ages. Last time I saw him was a while back at .25/.50 PLO. I guess it's a good sign that he's had to move down in stakes. OTOH, a couple bots have made their way up to 2/5 PLO and it used to be bot-free at times.

This Micro plo botring was reported zillion times before they dont care, just time waste talkin about it. The best is tó avoid playing with them. Look at statname plo 10 top winners all bots from the same botring.

There was a recent influx of a half dozen or so bot accounts at 500NL-1kNL, but they're not around this morning so far. For the last year or more there hasn't been too many of the most common cash game bots at those stakes. When I was making my way up the stakes the highest concentration of bots at the NLHE cash game tables was between 25NL-200NL. I couldn't tell you the exact amount at each of the lower stakes at the moment, but I would assume the concentration of them is still the highest between those stakes.

Hi Time4Revenge,

We do care about any suspected accounts and I am always asking for information.
Please send me anything you have in a private message and I will forward everything so that it gets seen by the security and fraud department.


Kind regards

Mike

Mike,

I cannot PM, perhaps because I had to setup a new account. However, as the above poster mentioned, I went to Statname and searched some of the bot accounts. Found some interesting results:

PyroPro:



960 buy in winner. Never played a hand at any other stake. Find me a human player who has done that. I'll wait...

PARPero:



440 Buy in Winner. Never played a hand of any other stake. That's normal.

soapOpera:




390 buy in winner. Never a hand at any other stake.

These 3 players have beat PLO10 at your site out of a RECORDED $18K. According to my play, statname only captures a percentage of hand played. For me it's about 50%. So the actual number these bots have won from your legit players is certainly higher and likely much much higher.

To me this is just disgusting.....