Incredible...any chance to get them back?!!

I saw bloodywolf aka Benjamin.fr aka stongpanyid play on WPN the last two days, but didnt see him on Chico so I am going to assume he got banned again

Mike, could we maybe recieve some transparancy about it? WPN makes the list of everyone caught botting public and while I dont think they shine in that department, I really like that approach. If you see that actions are being taken then people are much more likely to report players that are most likely using banned software. Or at least a public "yes, we banned him, thanks for helping our security department" would be nice.
It also helps people knowing what to look for if they see what accounts were botting and which were not.

Could someone explain the current seating script policy to me

I've been lurking for a while, just wondering if there's any lower limit players here? I mostly play .5/.10 boost and lower limit MTTS, or if anyone recognizes the username WereBomber.


While we're on the topic of bots, I feel like there's a couple on the lower limit boost, cause I see some of the dumbest quick calls ever for all ins pre flop...not sure if bots do that or if they just wait for AA KK and hands like that.

I dont think there are bots in the boost pool ,only on regular tables.Just a bunch of extreme tight jackpot hunter nit and a few rec.

I have seen emails from the network to players telling them that seating script use is prohibited, but there are several players still using one to this very day.

There isn't anything in their Rules section that specifically mentions seating scripts by name. If their intention is to eliminate seating script use then it would nice to see them mention it in their Rules section, suspend any current users and ban the repeat offenders. Without them taking those types of actions then nothing is likely to change.


Extremely quick River calls and extremely nitty play are not common traits found in the most common NLHE cash game bots. I probably can't really help you identify any bots in your games since you mainly play Boost and MTTs. However, I can help anyone curious about how to identify them at regular NLHE cash game tables. Just send me a private message if you have any interest in that information.

Also, as far as I'm aware...


As far as I know, none of the bots that play regular NLHE cash games have been seen playing at the Boost tables. It doesn't mean that there aren't some that only play Boost, but I don't think it's too likely at this point.

I'm interested in finding out how to find bots/determine if someone is a bot. It seems that I cannot PM you on here yet though.

Find a few threads, make a few posts(preferably good ones) and you'll soon have private messaging enabled for you. As soon as you have that enabled then I'll happily share that information with you.

What is this new max 3K withdraw? Letting people deposit up to 100K via bitcoin and getting 5% extra market value but limiting withdraw to 3K is very shady at the very least. This isnt looking good. Any news about that? This is temporary?

From the cashier thread:

I would guesstimate that the earliest the limits would be raised is a couple weeks after the NFL or NBA come back. It seems like the sportsbook is probably the majority of their revenues, but hopefully the surge in poker will help.

Not like their operating cost is huge ? I dont get it

Probably has a lot to do with the price of Bitcoin. A lot of people probably deposited when it was in the 8-10k range. Now with corona, tons of people wanting BTC cashouts at the exact same time and now it's been 5-6.5k range and they simply don't have it on hand. So whatever balance they had for BTC is suddenly 35% lower. Let's hope they can sort it out in the next couple weeks by restricting cashouts (aka flattening the curve).

Seems like Ignition and WPN are going through something similar. Gone are the days when Stars had player balances fully segregated. Now we gotta deal with stuff like this. Luckily cashouts are 100x better now compared the paper check era 4-5 years ago.

Well usually these big players got processor to insta get deposits into usd.

Might have something to do with their market+5% deposits in btc bonus. Or maybe owner keep all btcs w/o processing them into usd and now he's hugely underwater

3K is still 3K. I'd be happy with it. They could have said no withdrawals for now.

What kind of neanderthals logic is that

Would you rather cash out 3K or cash out nothing at all?



Off topic, I had a good one at boost earlier today....I have AA. Flop is K 8 5 rainbow. I go all in and get called by J 7....turn J....river 7. Nice.

Nothing, now Cooper West from the security Department will sort it out - and as you can guess.

By the way, I have already seen several topics where accounts were frozen with the same wording as mine, but after pressure they were defrosted and apologized. Which once again proves that their entire investigation is clowning, although this is so clear. Soon I will write another funny story illustrative, the conclusions of which are sad.Every time I see how dishonest this network is, and now I'm even glad that I was banned and saved from the torment that will now be associated with this network (payment restrictions, software updates that do not support hand2note )

I might be done with this site...unbelievable on the beats I've taken over the last couple of days....in a span of 5 minutes I had these two hands...

I go all in pre flop for $8 with KK
I get INSTA called by 8 4 off and the guy catches a flush on the river...who the hell calls with 8 4 off?

5 minutes later.....

I have 4 4....flop is A 10 4....I go all in for $5 and get called by Q 10....turn a Q..river a Q.

It's insane, 2 weeks ago none of this was happening to me, now I'm getting runner runnered every other hand. Someone on here mentioned a week ago they are noticing a lot more bad beats lately...I'm going to agree, something got changed.

Oh are we posting BOL bad beat stories? I had a lot in March

I lost a lot at the tables last October and ran -10evbb/100h on top of my already substantial loss rate during a 25k hand sample. Not once did I have the desire to come here and complain about it because I understand the variance that exists in poker. I've been in the black almost every month since then.

Crazy stuff can happen over small hand samples and it's possible to run bad for relatively large hand samples. I've played hundreds of thousands of cash game hands on this network and I have never suspected anything off with the RNG.

If you have solid evidence of anything suspicious then please post it. Until you do, please post your small samples of bad beats in the BBV forum or the thread dedicated to whether online poker is rigged. Thanks.

yikes chill out ^^

New PLO Bots have arrived, they play a little different and tighter than previous versions

MoggyGinzo
Stoner248

First of all, that wasn't even directed at you. It was directed at any of the low post accounts who have been posting a bunch of bad beat stories lately. It makes sense that several players have started playing more online recently because they're stuck at home. Bad beat stories and then perceiving online poker to be rigged is not uncommon to see from live poker and recreational players.

I'm actually fairly chill, but I think it's important to dispute unsubstantiated claims of impropriety when allowing it to remain unchallenged could result in some players deciding not to play because other people are saying the games are rigged.

Yeah it's annoying and I was going to tell him to be quiet but I didn't wanna rag on a microstakes player having a rough time so chose a different tack.

Anyway, Mike, there are new PLO bots, MoggyGinzo and Stoner248, ban and confiscate please!

It's frustrating but that's poker. Poker can be so fun or so frustrating. It's hard to conprehend how big variance can be, just look at Phil Galfond's challenge. You're just taking on a little negative variance brother.