I have deposited on another site in March after playing 99% on BOL for the last 5 years. After February ended I saw I had paid 7k in rake playing PLO for the month and had $0 in rake back or potential rewards. The other site I deposited on gave me a $1k deposit bonus and has ~27% rake back. For me last month that would be about ~$1890 or ~$1890 more than what I got from BOL. It makes no sense for me to play entirely on BOL when this is true.

That being said, so far this month I have split my play between the two sites but I still enjoy playing on BOL more. It has better software, a better game experience with more chatting and relationships between both regulars and the recreationals, and it is familiar. As the month wears on I find myself opening BOL first and if there is action, I don’t always check the other site.

But as time goes on, and as I get more used to the new site, the incentives will grow stronger to play there as the difference on my bottom line becomes more and more obvious.

I understand the two sites probably have different business models and goals but to not even try to be competitive with rewards for PLO players seems to be a crazy strategy. I have noticed several high stakes PLO players seem to have gone missing for the last few weeks as well. Whether this is related I don’t know.

I for one am a PLO player that wants to put 100% of my action on BOL and not have to worry about opening other sites. I am not asking for a lot. I am only asking for something reasonable for PLO players and you can keep my business. I am sure I am not the only one who feels this way.

BOL Mike,
Please give us some rewards or rake back for PLO players and give us some value for our VIP points.

Thanks,
Sam

Yah, same for me.

Only about 105 total hours for the whole year on BOL and playing more and more on the site w/27% rakeback. This is after about 5 years almost exclusively on BOL and there were months last year where I was playing close to 180 hours and paying almost 15k in rake. Of course that was when there were decent rake races that PLO players could actually participate in + a VIP program. PLO is brutal with rake being much higher than similar NLHE levels and with 0% rakeback it's hard to pass up on other options.

1/2 PLO is back, but as a run it twice table. There are no regular tables spawning.

I like the change, but I wonder why everything is so disorganized. How does noone know what's going on to inform the players about the change? Mike had no clue. Support had no clue. And how do you they not have the change ready to go and just swap out 1/2 regular for 1/2 RIT in minutes. Instead we're left wondering for a couple days if the stake is gone or what's gonna happen. Very bizarre and unprofessional.

lol, they absolutely kill sng in network, at the beginning by creating cheating disciplines double up and hyper, up to 200$, who attracted colluders from all over Europe, with whom no one fought and now just delete all sng above 60$ (9max above 30$). GENIUS !

Agreed.
I also dont like the RIT tables as well. I want it back the way it was.

I don't think its only BOL. I used to only play Sng's a few years ago now can't even find many games on any of the US based sites (ACR vs Ignition vs BOL).

I was was saying I do like RIT tables, but think that the change could've been implemented more smoothly.

Is it true that the bots dont sit at the RIT tables? Has been my experience but I only play every once in a while late night.

am i blind or did they remove 200 nl full ring NLHE tables? there are 6max 200nl tables i see.

In PLO there are 1 or 2 bots capable of sitting RIT, but all the others are unable. Not sure why the difference, but it makes RIT a way better option. Sounds like it's the same for NLHE.

Hey Fossil,

Have you noticed any differences since the most recent update?

Mike

I've played a bit more PLO 100 and 200 in the past few days and things look much improved. A couple months ago I saw a 6-handed table that was myself and 5 bots and 2-3 bots per table was the norm at most tables. In the last few days there is max 1 bot at most and especially at RIT there are many tables with 0 bots, so it seems like a good change. The few remaining bots at this level are AFon9, MadPanda, and Keeper (and megel at PLO 50) if you're interested in completely stamping them out, but thus far things are looking better.

The other good news is that game traffic has not fallen off at all, even without bots roaming the tables 24/7. If anything it's picked up, which shows that honest players are willing to come back and put in more volume if they feel that games are fair. And with many people spending all their time at home due to the unfortunate virus situation, I think you could capitalize even more by offering some nice promos. A PLO-only cash race or high hand promo, for example, would be very nice.

Fossilkid and I seem to play the same games and I agree with everything he said. The only thing missing is PLO rewards or rakeback.

The addition of $1/$2 RIT tables has been nice.

Is there a zoom/fast fold poker game type? I downloaded client but couldn't tell.

been out of the loop this week... have they finally done something about bots? I withdrew my funds about a month ago, but will to come back if they are finally doing something about them

Yes. It's called Boost. It doesn't run much outside of the microstakes. The tables do have their own unique smaller Bad Beat Jackpot that goes off at what seems like a once a day average. Often it goes off multiple times a day. The tables have special icons in the lobby with a star and then a B next to it. If you can't see them then try using the filter button in the lobby to filter for them. They even have some fast fold MTTs.

There are certainly less around in the small to higher stakes. Still a few around, but certainly less. I don't check the microstakes lobbies as often.

Guys please please just keep sending me reports especially if you see suspicious new accounts or still see some old accounts using prohibited software.

Stay safe

Mike

did benjamin.fr get banned not seen him around lately

Hmm, I might have jumped the gun a bit on the bot praise. At PLO 100 there are 2 full 6-max tables and 8 of the 12 active players are bots. There is 1 full RIT and none of the 6 are bots.

I wish more people would go to RIT (run it twice). The games are much fishier and very few bot profiles are able to play them. But I suppose when there are bots playing each other HU for hours starting up the regular tables, there is not much choice.

I would be in support of BOL removing the regular tables and just going with all RIT, but maybe make the buy in amounts slightly more accessible to casual players. Whereas now it's 100 BB minimum buyin up to a max of 150, maybe make it 75-150.

Variance is also brutal in PLO and it would be a nice way to mitigate it a bit. It also encourages people to gamble in all in pots more and means much higher average pot size, which is nice for BOL.

See above. Seems slightly better at times, but then bot inundated at others. This is in PLO, I don't follow the NLHE games.

is there a way to get your hands on holdem manager like bovada where u download them convert them over. i just wanna see amount of hands i play and hours and whatever.

I haven't seen the account active over the last week. I doubt there will be an official statement made about whether they were actually banned. We never got an official statement about whether bloodywolf was actually banned, but that account hasn't been seen since the beginning of February.


Forgot to mention that my observations in the post above were solely about NLHE cash games. There's definitely been an improvement/less bots around in those games lately. I don't play other game types enough to confidently comment on the state of them, but I trust what Fossilkid says about the state of the PLO cash games.


There is no ability to download them after a session. You would have to have been using HM2/3 or another tracker at the time of play.

Hey Mike, you've got the same promo "High Hand Leaderboard" running twice. I know your site loves to give all rewards to .05/.10 NLHE players, but I figured this was overkill and probably a glitch.

I'm sure their promo guys are high-fiving each other b/c traffic is way up, but it's way up everywhere b/c of coronavirus, as I've pointed out a couple times, this promo is awful on every level and I have no idea why it continues to run.

i don't mind they have the high hand leaderboard if it stays at only the top person getting $2k. If it is awarded any larger like the beast on ACR than I think it is a bad idea for recreational players. that being said, i don't care if they lost it all together either. if some poor saps want to spend all day grinding max tables of micros and boost tables for the top prize than go at it.

there is any chance to recieve a hand histories to import in holdem manager 2?