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02-25-2020 , 11:43 AM
I was curious but do not know how to find the data, does anybody know the relative percentages of big cash game winners are from which skin? BOL vs TG vs sportsbetting? high stakes (500nl+), mid stakes (50nl+), microstakes? data-backed too and not just personal perceptions.
02-25-2020 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ejames209
With regards to the bolded, they recently came out and said actually there is no VIP program all your rake is going to the MTT guarantees & I have reported all those names and they still play day after day
Hi guys, Whilst I understand your frustration, please send me a private message with a list of names, stats, information, screenshots anything you have on these accounts using prohibited software.

I can promise you all that when I get information it goes directly to the security team to investigate.

So I have always encouraged you to send me as much as possible on any prohibited software.

Please do this so we can rid the site of all users who break the rules!



Kind Regards

Mike
02-25-2020 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by maberr5322
Here you go mike, here is a comprehensive list, most of these names have been brought to your attention apparently several times now
When are you going to do something about this problem? What do we as paying customers have to do to get tou to correct this? I feel a mutiny coming and you know all to well this forum has the capability to break betonline. Get of your asses and protect your living breathing customers, because apparently were all becoming sick of this ****. I think we as a poker community want REAL answers and to see REAL results.

Hi Maber5322,

Could you please send me info on these accounts privately?

The more info you have for me, the better for the security team to investigate.

Kind Regards

Mike
02-25-2020 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by BetOnline Mike
Hi Maber5322,

Could you please send me info on these accounts privately?

The more info you have for me, the better for the security team to investigate.

Kind Regards

Mike
Obviously you didn't read all the posts, just skimmed thru. Again I'm on my phone 99% of the time. These are all accounts that every regular suspects as being bots. Again it's not our job to send you proof of them being bots, we shouldn't even have to provide lists of suspected bots. Betonline should be rooting out the bots before it becomes a problem. So far you have a list of probably 20 suspected bots alot of whom have been reported multiple times by multiple people across a few months.
02-25-2020 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by maberr5322
Obviously you didn't read all the posts, just skimmed thru. Again I'm on my phone 99% of the time. These are all accounts that every regular suspects as being bots. Again it's not our job to send you proof of them being bots, we shouldn't even have to provide lists of suspected bots. Betonline should be rooting out the bots before it becomes a problem. So far you have a list of probably 20 suspected bots alot of whom have been reported multiple times by multiple people across a few months.
+1 Even here, you can see the concept that, by and large, this is all a useless spectacle of interaction with the community. How strange it all looks, is puzzling.

And only in my case-there was a public prompt reaction from Mike with a promise to immediately deal with and thanks for the fake complaint and on the same day I was frozen and and a day later removed from the leaderboard and did not pay 3750$. How angry it is.
In a happy scenario for me, there is a 95% chance that Mike would have either missed the charge on me or written about private and nothing would have happened On this site, it was safer to be a bot than an honest player fighting for iron man
02-25-2020 , 03:01 PM
By the way, I can help Mike in his difficult work on this forum and speed up the interaction process and respond not once in 2 days, but within a couple of hours, because the answer is always the same

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Originally Posted by joe64
Lol, just a week has passed and bot again won jackpot, 33K. Chico, go to fak. I do cash out and go from this garbage. Stupid donkeys. I wish you a speedy death

Hi joe64,

Could you please send Mike info on these accounts privately?

The more info you have for Mike, the better for the security team to investigate.

Kind Regards

Mike's assistant

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Originally Posted by Crocken
It's funny, I can already tell from nick's styling that this is a bot for sure) Bcem Xaha - this is a typical nickname of network bot. I have already posted a list of all who played in January bots at low limits [IMG][/IMG]
But no one cares, they ban only honest leaders of iron man races during the day, because he does not pay them for winning with this money
Hello Crocken!
Could you please send Mike info on these accounts privately?

The more info you have for Mike, the better for the security team to investigate .

Kind Regards

Mike's assistant

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Originally Posted by Klabautermann27
Can someone explain to me how it is possible that Dori-Dori is still not banned?!
This guy is tableblocking for weeks now!
Hello Klabautermann27
Could you please send Mike info on these accounts privately?

The more info you have for Mike, the better for the security team to investigate .

Kind Regards

Mike's assistant


Morning all !
This has been sorted out, and what do you think if we increase the starting stack for early birds in tournaments by 0.5% of chips? Please let us know, your feedback is very important to us.
Kind Regards
02-25-2020 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BetOnline Mike
Hi Maber5322,

Could you please send me info on these accounts privately?

The more info you have for me, the better for the security team to investigate.

Kind Regards

Mike

This statement is asinine, this would be like taking your car to the mechanic because theres something wrong with it. Then your mechanic telling you to figure out what's wrong with it, order the parts then pull up a youtube tutorial on how to fix it, before the mechanic can fix your car. How about do your job and protect your paying customers.
02-25-2020 , 03:43 PM
LMAO, excellent work Crocken, and yes, those are pretty much the only types of posts Mike has made in 2020.
02-25-2020 , 04:11 PM
Mike has been given a pretty hefty list of names... (not that I'm a big volume player, but) If nothing is done about this in the coming days (week), I am certainly pulling my money off here, and I would suggest others do as well...

At least Phil Nagy blows smoke up asses to our face about the problem of botting... this is just copy/paste BS
02-25-2020 , 04:45 PM
I'm beginning to think betonline mike isnt a real person, it's a bot generating posts with the same rhetoric.
02-25-2020 , 05:00 PM
He was always powerless b/c at the end of the day, he's just a mouthpiece and lately there's been very little effort by Chico to do anything for the players. The main difference is that he's now dropped the charade of "intense meetings" to decide what to do w/VIP points, promos for PLO players, etc.
02-25-2020 , 06:02 PM
I am pretty confident without him bloodywolf would have never gotten banned
Although it took 3 months and none of the money was returned (pretty sure they let him cash it out)
Sadly, bloodywolf is already back with a new account (BenjaminFr)
Lets hope it wont take 3 months again
02-25-2020 , 07:23 PM
теотекан, а тебя забанили или ты все ещё в локе сидишь и тебе говорят, что проводят расследование по твоему аккаунту?
02-25-2020 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by NINzent
I am pretty confident without him bloodywolf would have never gotten banned
Although it took 3 months and none of the money was returned (pretty sure they let him cash it out)
Sadly, bloodywolf is already back with a new account (BenjaminFr)
Lets hope it wont take 3 months again
I am also sure that if it were not for him, I would not have been deprived of iron man and all the work, now the situation is reversed and for a month there is almost zero information from him and hope hides every day. It's funny that they froze and removed me from the leaderboard for a couple of days, it's even hard to think of a reason ) although I'm sure it's completely fake and they don't even do any investigation. And all the experience of communicating with them-says that people there do not understand what they are doing

Again, bloodywolf - as I understand it, an exclusive bot that beats the highest limits, the type that was on PokerStars Ukrainian bot Oborra . And of course this bot works for itself and can not cooperate with the network, so they were able to ban it after a billion complaints. But the network of bots with low limits, has immunity for some reason, although there are many more complaints, mass character, jackpots, and the simplest and most obvious thing is that it cooperates with the network.Even a random captcha how can they pass if the network would fight them? It doesn't look like operators are sitting there 24/7. Well, frankly, you can see how Mike carefully ignores everything related to this and bots play every day, for some reason they are not frozen for a couple of weeks, for an investigation like me. Yes, because it's all fake and deception.

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Originally Posted by onpokaa
теотекан, а тебя забанили или ты все ещё в локе сидишь и тебе говорят, что проводят расследование по твоему аккаунту?
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02-25-2020 , 08:56 PM
So I'm curious to get everyone's input on this: I am the last person to buy into poker being rigged or similar conspiracy theories, but I am legitimately having doubts about the integrity of this site. I've had a particular situation happen to me many times recently and I'm wondering if anyone else has also experienced it - I'll have a very strong hand preflop, AA/KK etc. I'll raise, get 3bet by the player in the BB, I 4bet they call. Dry flop, 3better donks into me, I shove and they snap call and turn over some absolutely ridiculous middle pair type hand, then spike 2 pair on the turn or river to stack me. I understand people are terrible and I do play micros but there are a few specific things that stand out about these hands. Firstly, it is always against a player I have never seen before, which is unusual in and of itself because I play a decent amount and know all the regular players at my stakes. Second, they show up immediately before playing the hand and quit immediately after, like 1-2 minutes later. Third, I never see them playing again. This exact series of events has happened to me about a half dozen times over the last few thousand hands. The latest example: folds to me in CO, I raise KK, BB 3bets, I 4bet they flat call. Flop is Q52 rainbow, villain donks about 25% pot, I shove. Villain snap calls and turns over A5o. Turn is A, river blank. Villain plays 1 or 2 more hands and leaves (and I can guarantee I will never see them again). I had basically the exact same hand happen a couple days ago but different screename and they had J8o, but exactly the same action (they stacked off with a pair of 8s on Q84 flop and turned a J) including the immediately quitting and not being seen again. Am I the only one experiencing this?
02-25-2020 , 09:07 PM
So I'm curious to get everyone's input on this: I am the last person to buy into poker being rigged or similar conspiracy theories, but I am legitimately having doubts about the integrity of this site. I've had a particular situation happen to me many times recently and I'm wondering if anyone else has also experienced it - I'll have a very strong hand preflop, AA/KK etc. I'll raise, get 3bet by the player in the BB, I 4bet they call. Dry flop, 3better donks into me, I shove and they snap call and turn over some absolutely ridiculous middle pair type hand, then spike 2 pair on the turn or river to stack me. I understand people are terrible and I do play micros but there are a few specific things that stand out about these hands. Firstly, it is always against a player I have never seen before, which is unusual in and of itself because I play a decent amount and know all the regular players at my stakes. Second, they show up immediately before playing the hand and quit immediately after, like 1-2 minutes later. Third, I never see them playing again. This exact series of events has happened to me about a half dozen times over the last few thousand hands. The latest example: folds to me in CO, I raise KK, BB 3bets, I 4bet they flat call. Flop is Q52 rainbow, villain donks about 25% pot, I shove. Villain snap calls and turns over A5o. Turn is A, river blank. Villain plays 1 or 2 more hands and leaves (and I can guarantee I will never see them again). I had basically the exact same hand happen a couple days ago but different screename and they had J8o, but exactly the same action (they stacked off with a pair of 8s on Q84 flop and turned a J) including the immediately quitting and not being seen again. Am I the only one experiencing this?
02-25-2020 , 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Crocken
It's funny, I can already tell from nick's styling that this is a bot for sure) Bcem Xaha - this is a typical nickname of network bot. I have already posted a list of all who played in January bots at low limits [IMG][/IMG]
But no one cares, they ban only honest leaders of iron man races during the day, because he does not pay them for winning with this money
Oh...so most everyone on all the 25nl tables.
02-25-2020 , 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by IgnatiusJR
Oh...so most everyone on all the 25nl tables.
whats more interesting to me is that the entire list are players from TG...TigerGaming right?

Is there a reason such as the player pool that you could look at was only from TigerGaming? Or If the pool is all skins and only TG players are being suspected...
02-26-2020 , 01:54 AM
it just means the guy who posted the list is playing on TG
02-26-2020 , 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Romka2k
it just means the guy who posted the list is playing on TG
No it doesn’t you can see where each player plays in the chat box if you reset settings to default
02-26-2020 , 03:46 AM
Over the last 2 years or so about 95% of the bots have been registered from TigerGaming accounts. There used to be a slightly higher percentage of bots registered from BetOnline accounts, but TigerGaming has always had the highest amount of bots since I've been tracking them.
02-26-2020 , 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by tiger24
No it doesn’t you can see where each player plays in the chat box if you reset settings to default
sure, but it wont affect this players h2n database and wont show any difference. hes TG player and his h2n shows every player from chico as TG player
02-26-2020 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by WSPreadHead
I agree about Hidden Secrets as well


You guys are seriously morons. I never come on here b/c how toxic this place is. Thanks to a buddy of mine, who told me I better get my ass on here. And, to see you guys pick me as a bot, trying to get my account removed really makes me think about all other accounts now. Unless, of course it was more of a knowledgeable investigator. Just to clarify, I am not a bot. I've been on SportsBetting for over 3 years now grinding SNG's. So, please STFU and let the right ones do the investigating.
02-26-2020 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by HiddenSecrets
You guys are seriously morons. I never come on here b/c how toxic this place is. Thanks to a buddy of mine, who told me I better get my ass on here. And, to see you guys pick me as a bot, trying to get my account removed really makes me think about all other accounts now. Unless, of course it was more of a knowledgeable investigator. Just to clarify, I am not a bot. I've been on SportsBetting for over 3 years now grinding SNG's. So, please STFU and let the right ones do the investigating.
I think if you go back and read what was written, neither one of us directly accused you of being a bot, nor did either one of us say we were actively trying to get your account closed... was I SUSPICIOUS about your play? Yes, I was, and I apologise for making the wrong assumption.
02-26-2020 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by HiddenSecrets
You guys are seriously morons. I never come on here b/c how toxic this place is. Thanks to a buddy of mine, who told me I better get my ass on here. And, to see you guys pick me as a bot, trying to get my account removed really makes me think about all other accounts now. Unless, of course it was more of a knowledgeable investigator. Just to clarify, I am not a bot. I've been on SportsBetting for over 3 years now grinding SNG's. So, please STFU and let the right ones do the investigating.

Nobody said you were a bot, or tried to get your account suspended. If you read my post I said not sure about this account it's new to cash the last couple weeks not enough hands with it. As a cash player you should be concerned about the number of bots allowed at these levels. I will happily remove your name, and good for you for playing botty.

It wont let me edit my post for some reason if a mod could please remove hidden secrets it would be appreciated.

      
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