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02-23-2020 , 02:00 AM
why do I get 10 seconds to act. Wtttfff is this.
02-23-2020 , 05:21 PM
Like I said I was playing on my phone at the time and dont have the hh. The real problem is the bots on this site. Betonlinemike repeatedly asks us to send him details on why we think certain players are bots. Since when is it the players responsible to do this? It's the sites responsibility to protect the players period. I play on my phone 99% of the time due to my lifestyle and dont have hh like others so I'm unable to do this. Mike has asked since day one of this thread for us to do whatever betonline should be doing. Mike it's not our ****** job, why dont you find the bots and ban them? Why is betonline incapable of this? That's the real question. Pokerstars had hundreds of thousands of users in its heyday and could find and ban bots. At most I've seen 2000 users playing on betonline but it's still over run with bots. Do I know 100% and have evidence to show? No I'm on my phone. Sorry I dont have that luxury. Every regular at the tables openly complain about the bot accounts so it's not just me. Here is a lost of accounts I feel are bots. This is solely based on style of play if I name an account that isnt I apologize in advance.
Litvla
Raspberry
Zzzombie
Fireman
Spiritlancer
Faser
Maston
Abibas
Babalu

These are currently sitting that I have noted as possible bots. Again I'm on my phone I dont have hh, what i do have is 30 years playing poker and vast knowledge of this game.
So again, why is it your customers responsibility to provide you evidence on who and why you suspect account a,b,c are bots? Why have you asked from the beginning for us to do the work?
Why doesn't betonline get off its ass and do its job to protect its players? Is it because bots provide endless income in the form of rakex why dont you do your job, ban bot accounts and return the mo ey stolen from tour customers? I will add to this list as other accounts I have marked come online. Feel free to add to this list as well.
No we dont need "evidence " I'm tired of hearing that. It's your job to investigate and root out the bots you find the evidence it's your job period.

If I have you listed and you're not a bot I sincerely apologize, and congrats for playing almost perfect mathematic poker.

Oh and what about the VIP program? Or is that hang on guys great things are coming still? Been almost 9 months now, your site is quickly becoming a laughing stock. Take care of and protect your customer base should be your number one priority.

Last edited by maberr5322; 02-23-2020 at 05:33 PM.
02-24-2020 , 03:31 AM
They don't even ban bots when they detect them. There's screenshots of emails where BOL tells the person running the bot "Hey, we found you were using a bot program. We're not gonna ban you but if you delete the program we will allow you to withdraw the money you made using the bot just delete it and we're all good"

this isn't incompetence, it's sheer complicity.
02-24-2020 , 03:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by maberr5322
Like I said I was playing on my phone at the time and dont have the hh. The real problem is the bots on this site. Betonlinemike repeatedly asks us to send him details on why we think certain players are bots. Since when is it the players responsible to do this? It's the sites responsibility to protect the players period. I play on my phone 99% of the time due to my lifestyle and dont have hh like others so I'm unable to do this. Mike has asked since day one of this thread for us to do whatever betonline should be doing. Mike it's not our ****** job, why dont you find the bots and ban them? Why is betonline incapable of this? That's the real question. Pokerstars had hundreds of thousands of users in its heyday and could find and ban bots. At most I've seen 2000 users playing on betonline but it's still over run with bots. Do I know 100% and have evidence to show? No I'm on my phone. Sorry I dont have that luxury. Every regular at the tables openly complain about the bot accounts so it's not just me. Here is a lost of accounts I feel are bots. This is solely based on style of play if I name an account that isnt I apologize in advance.
Litvla
Raspberry

Zzzombie
Fireman
Spiritlancer
Faser
Maston
Abibas
Babalu


These are currently sitting that I have noted as possible bots. Again I'm on my phone I dont have hh, what i do have is 30 years playing poker and vast knowledge of this game.
So again, why is it your customers responsibility to provide you evidence on who and why you suspect account a,b,c are bots? Why have you asked from the beginning for us to do the work?
Why doesn't betonline get off its ass and do its job to protect its players? Is it because bots provide endless income in the form of rakex why dont you do your job, ban bot accounts and return the mo ey stolen from tour customers? I will add to this list as other accounts I have marked come online. Feel free to add to this list as well.
No we dont need "evidence " I'm tired of hearing that. It's your job to investigate and root out the bots you find the evidence it's your job period.

If I have you listed and you're not a bot I sincerely apologize, and congrats for playing almost perfect mathematic poker.

Oh and what about the VIP program? Or is that hang on guys great things are coming still? Been almost 9 months now, your site is quickly becoming a laughing stock. Take care of and protect your customer base should be your number one priority.
With regards to the bolded, they recently came out and said actually there is no VIP program all your rake is going to the MTT guarantees & I have reported all those names and they still play day after day
02-24-2020 , 05:37 AM
Unbelievable, I guess it's time to move elsewhere, shame because there phone app really is fantastic.
02-24-2020 , 09:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by maberr5322
Unbelievable, I guess it's time to move elsewhere, shame because there phone app really is fantastic.
It's kind of funny. That my account was frozen at the end of the active promotion and in one day they were deprived of everything. I was a fraudster and stole $ 3750, although I did not violate anything for 10,000% and everyone can see it. and bots that are detected even when playing with the phone - they do not ban. That's why I'm shouting-that their security service is just a disgrace to the industry and criminals (I have the right to say so, because I'm 100% sure that they deliberately did it against me). I do not think that they are so stupid, so I think that there is a cynical calculation - bots are profitable, and they cooperate with them, I am an honest player who wins including bots-no, so I was frozen and my prizes were stolen and my work was destroyed
There can be no other logical explanations, or they do not have any tools for investigations at all and the security service is a fake
To be honest, this is a pirate office - with pirate laws, we are only meat that plays by their rules, there are just moments for which I have always respected this office - they fulfilled their obligations even when it was clear that they were on the verge. Perhaps there really are people who want honest development and try to go an honest way, but there are simply non-professionals on the salary who substitute this office and create this negative. My case is just a marker of absolute lawlessness that is impossible in an office that values its reputation
02-24-2020 , 09:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ejames209
They don't even ban bots when they detect them. There's screenshots of emails where BOL tells the person running the bot "Hey, we found you were using a bot program. We're not gonna ban you but if you delete the program we will allow you to withdraw the money you made using the bot just delete it and we're all good"

this isn't incompetence, it's sheer complicity.
I already wrote above somewhere that these emails are sent indiscriminately to everyone, including real bots. Therefore, they do not ban, but only threaten. I had this idea-except for hand2note, I didn't have any software. Still flopzilla, but I did not open it for a long time and certainly this software can not be the cause of such letters, I even deleted it when I thought that this letter could cause. But the most important laugh is that this does not affect the bot network in any way and this is an impossible paradox, all they have achieved at the moment is to ban the iron man champion and now pretend that the ban was fair and they found violations-complete lies
02-24-2020 , 10:00 AM
Can someone explain to me how it is possible that Dori-Dori is still not banned?!
This guy is tableblocking for weeks now!
02-24-2020 , 11:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by joe64
bots regularly win at least part of the jackpot, because there are a lot of bots, they are sitting at every table. Today bot again won, 45K, and I think other bots too seat at this table and won part of jackpot. Chico go kill yourself. Or are you like Americans pouring money into the economy of Ukraine? Hmmmm



By the way, who thinks chico pays the bots, you're wrong. We do it with our rake. As in November 2017, instead of banned obvious colluderss from the sng, Chico simply increased the rake in the sng by 1.5-2 times
Lol, just a week has passed and bot again won jackpot, 33K. Chico, go to fak. I do cash out and go from this garbage. Stupid donkeys. I wish you a speedy death

02-24-2020 , 11:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by joe64
Lol, just a week has passed and bot again won jackpot, 33K. Chico, go to fak. I do cash out and go from this garbage. Stupid donkeys. I wish you a speedy death

Because the security service works 5 or 6 hours a day and there are a 2-3 people at best , and their job is to do fake investigations and create visibility. The truth is most likely very sad - these bots work for the network, and to hide it somehow banyat hard workers like me and extinguish at least some negative.This is the most logical explanation of what is happening. But my experience of communication and their questions show that they generally do not understand what they are doing ( unfortunately, the truth is sad in both cases.
02-24-2020 , 12:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Klabautermann27
Can someone explain to me how it is possible that Dori-Dori is still not banned?!
This guy is tableblocking for weeks now!
+1 He barely ever plays. He just sits out at and camps at the tables for hours and will only play if he gets a good seat when the table fills.


Quote:
Originally Posted by joe64
Lol, just a week has passed and bot again won jackpot, 33K. Chico, go to fak. I do cash out and go from this garbage. Stupid donkeys. I wish you a speedy death

It's sickening. All of the money the honest players put towards the Bad Beat Jackpot and bot accounts are regularly getting huge chunks of it lately.
02-24-2020 , 12:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by maberr5322
Like I said I was playing on my phone at the time and dont have the hh. The real problem is the bots on this site. Betonlinemike repeatedly asks us to send him details on why we think certain players are bots. Since when is it the players responsible to do this? It's the sites responsibility to protect the players period. I play on my phone 99% of the time due to my lifestyle and dont have hh like others so I'm unable to do this. Mike has asked since day one of this thread for us to do whatever betonline should be doing. Mike it's not our ****** job, why dont you find the bots and ban them? Why is betonline incapable of this? That's the real question. Pokerstars had hundreds of thousands of users in its heyday and could find and ban bots. At most I've seen 2000 users playing on betonline but it's still over run with bots. Do I know 100% and have evidence to show? No I'm on my phone. Sorry I dont have that luxury. Every regular at the tables openly complain about the bot accounts so it's not just me. Here is a lost of accounts I feel are bots. This is solely based on style of play if I name an account that isnt I apologize in advance.
Litvla
Raspberry
Zzzombie
Fireman
Spiritlancer
Faser
Maston
Abibas
Babalu

These are currently sitting that I have noted as possible bots. Again I'm on my phone I dont have hh, what i do have is 30 years playing poker and vast knowledge of this game.
So again, why is it your customers responsibility to provide you evidence on who and why you suspect account a,b,c are bots? Why have you asked from the beginning for us to do the work?
Why doesn't betonline get off its ass and do its job to protect its players? Is it because bots provide endless income in the form of rakex why dont you do your job, ban bot accounts and return the mo ey stolen from tour customers? I will add to this list as other accounts I have marked come online. Feel free to add to this list as well.
No we dont need "evidence " I'm tired of hearing that. It's your job to investigate and root out the bots you find the evidence it's your job period.

If I have you listed and you're not a bot I sincerely apologize, and congrats for playing almost perfect mathematic poker.

Oh and what about the VIP program? Or is that hang on guys great things are coming still? Been almost 9 months now, your site is quickly becoming a laughing stock. Take care of and protect your customer base should be your number one priority.
Haven't played any cash on BOL for a few months. Have no idea why nothing has been done about those players listed above. Players have constantly complained about them in this thread and at the tables when I played.
If they have been checked then BOL needs to check again. They are obv doing something to hide detection. Why are these accts. just stuck at 25NL? They have been at these stakes since the age of time. The reason is they keep a low balance on the site to minimize the loss if they get caught.
Also, I don't know if the player still plays but at 100NL the JohnGalt acct. uses software. Clear as day.
If you want to play higher stakes its better just to grind the tournys and build a bankroll and jump to 200NL and above. But then again I didn't log that many hands at 200NL or higher stakes so I don't know the bot situation.
02-24-2020 , 12:39 PM
There's a handful at 200NL as well. There are only of few which play 500NL and 1kNL. The bot that just won the most recent BBJ was playing 500NL.
02-24-2020 , 02:47 PM
How do we know the cap has been increased? I just checked both PLO and NLHE and can only sit at 8 tables.

And the 2 leaders on the high hand LB (both .05/.10 NLHE players) are only playing 8 and I'd assume they'd be adding more if possible.
02-24-2020 , 03:29 PM
More suspicious playing accounts:
Kaboombaby
KingLiKong
Kespersk1y
Balabas
Keesha
Bcem Xaha, this one is new last week really not enough playbtime with it, but plays very botty.

This is just 50nl and below, there are more I have labeled as possible bots, just havent been on yet.
02-24-2020 , 04:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by maberr5322
More suspicious playing accounts:
Kaboombaby
KingLiKong
Kespersk1y
Balabas
Keesha
Bcem Xaha, this one is new last week really not enough playbtime with it, but plays very botty.

This is just 50nl and below, there are more I have labeled as possible bots, just havent been on yet.
It's funny, I can already tell from nick's styling that this is a bot for sure) Bcem Xaha - this is a typical nickname of network bot. I have already posted a list of all who played in January bots at low limits [IMG][/IMG]
But no one cares, they ban only honest leaders of iron man races during the day, because he does not pay them for winning with this money
02-24-2020 , 04:52 PM
Faser 27/21/7
Maston 29/23/8
Abibas 27/21/7

These accounts have almost identical stats, same flop, turn, river cbets, same high winrates ; XR ; AFQ everything is the same. These are the most obv bots. They are raking so chico dosent care ...
02-24-2020 , 05:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crocken
It's funny, I can already tell from nick's styling that this is a bot for sure) Bcem Xaha - this is a typical nickname of network bot. I have already posted a list of all who played in January bots at low limits [IMG][/IMG]
But no one cares, they ban only honest leaders of iron man races during the day, because he does not pay them for winning with this money
Here you go mike, here is a comprehensive list, most of these names have been brought to your attention apparently several times now
When are you going to do something about this problem? What do we as paying customers have to do to get tou to correct this? I feel a mutiny coming and you know all to well this forum has the capability to break betonline. Get of your asses and protect your living breathing customers, because apparently were all becoming sick of this ****. I think we as a poker community want REAL answers and to see REAL results.
02-24-2020 , 08:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fossilkid93
How do we know the cap has been increased? I just checked both PLO and NLHE and can only sit at 8 tables.

And the 2 leaders on the high hand LB (both .05/.10 NLHE players) are only playing 8 and I'd assume they'd be adding more if possible.
I can only play 8 tables max as well.
02-25-2020 , 12:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fossilkid93
How do we know the cap has been increased? I just checked both PLO and NLHE and can only sit at 8 tables.

And the 2 leaders on the high hand LB (both .05/.10 NLHE players) are only playing 8 and I'd assume they'd be adding more if possible.
Quote:
Originally Posted by madmansam
I can only play 8 tables max as well.
The day I saw that post about the table cap being lifted I searched the player names of some players who were at the top of Iron Man contest. I noticed one guy was playing 11 regular tables. I was thinking about checking how many I could get on myself, but I was preoccupied with something else and then forgot about it.

I just tried right now and was limited to 8 NLHE cash tables as well.

Last edited by MCAChiTown; 02-25-2020 at 12:59 AM.
02-25-2020 , 02:08 AM
Are you sure it wasn't 8 regular tables and a couple tournies and/or blitz?

In any case, just checked the High Hand LB and 6 of the top 10 players are active and all are playing 8 tables, so it's 99.9% that 8 is still the limit.

BTW, all 6 are .05/.10 players. What a ****in' joke that the majority of the 10k weekly rewards budget is going to microstakes grinders while the rest of the players get nothing.
02-25-2020 , 03:03 AM
I wish I could remember exactly, but I only checked for a very brief moment. I'm pretty certain it was 11 regular tables + some Boost tables. I recall counting the amount of regular tables listed. The other types of tables have different styles of names and tags that I think I would have noticed I was confusing them for. Doesn't make much difference now that we've all confirmed that we are currently capped at 8.

It doesn't affect me much since I don't often attempt to win rake races, but I definitely agree that giving all of that promotional rake race money to microstakes grinders was a terrible idea.
02-25-2020 , 07:00 AM
Rojiniv
Vinom

2 more

Hidden secrets, another new one last week not alot of play with this account but very botlike
02-25-2020 , 10:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by maberr5322
Rojiniv
Vinom

2 more

Hidden secrets, another new one last week not alot of play with this account but very botlike
I agree about Hidden Secrets as well
02-25-2020 , 11:33 AM
is hud/grapper legal on this site? where to get one?

      
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