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02-14-2020 , 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by MCAChiTown
I completely disagree.

Even if we disregard what he typed in chat, even if you're both completely innocent, I believe it would be negligent not to thoroughly investigate anybody who is playing these extreme amount of hours. It's not normal and such an extreme workload usually indicates the use of a bot program or players playing on one account in shifts.

It needed to be brought to everyone's attention if only to clear the names of the players doing it in a legit manner. Even if it has been legit play in both of your cases I think the rewards program should be changed so that this type of thing doesn't happen in the future. There's no way that playing that many hours is healthy and it's incentivizing players to attempt to do it.
This should be handled by the security service WITHOUT creating such topics, because OBVIOUSLY EXTREME HOURS should involve the security service by default. But in my case, the ban was for entering captcha the first time, which is absurd stupid, that this is what attracted the security service, and the second time is obvious because of a complaint on the forum, since the days coincide. The fact that a person is BANTERING in the CHAT OPENLY says only that he is absolutely sure that he does not violate anything. Plus, obviously, it should have been confused that I was blocked and he understands exactly that I am not the person who would have stopped fighting in this action at will. In addition, you need to be very stupid to play extreme hours with two accounts, knowing that this will potentially attract increased attention. The promotion is excellent - one of the best, which stimulates the game at low limits, there is a problem in the security service, which is extremely strange and it is questionable whether it actually exists at all
I believe that while the bot network is thriving-the security service should not deal with other issues at all - because this is absurd.The bot network does a lot of damage to everyone.So far, my conclusion is why I am against such topics, that for some reason , the network ignores bots, but will gladly feed the crowd of honest players and extinguish the negative, because such players as onpooka or I are not profitable for the network, do you understand this logic?
02-14-2020 , 06:41 AM
I understand most of what you're saying. I just disagree that it shouldn't be brought up as a topic here. Potential cheaters winning the rewards promotions should definitely be a topic of discussion here. You should want the topic discussed to help clear your name if you actually were able to play that amount of hours without cheating.

I agree that the amount of hours being played by these accounts should be automatically triggering a review by their security team without the need for the topic to be brought up in this forum.

I disagree that they should be solely focused on the bot situation prior to investigating this topic. They should be focusing on both at the same time. I obviously agree that the bot situation should be thoroughly investigated and vastly improved.

I also disagree that it is a good promotion. It's not a good promotion if it's incentivizing players to play so many hours and put their health at risk to do so. You even stated in your posts that you put your health at risk to do it.
02-14-2020 , 02:36 PM
Not at tables at all today, hopefully they started an investigation. Honestly I do hope this account isnt cheating, but as mcac said if something seems out of line it needs to be brought up. If this is just one person then this is crazy, this promotion needs changed before people start dropping dead like the old wow days. To think someone would do this to themselves is actually sad.
02-14-2020 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by maberr5322
Not at tables at all today, hopefully they started an investigation. Honestly I do hope this account isnt cheating, but as mcac said if something seems out of line it needs to be brought up. If this is just one person then this is crazy, this promotion needs changed before people start dropping dead like the old wow days. To think someone would do this to themselves is actually sad.
If this is true, then this is nonsense. And do you think it's fair to conduct an investigation when a person has played 5 days like a madman and spent his strength to win, and he is frozen at the end of the campaign and given a chance by his opponent to take away his prizes? Or do you still need to do it in parallel, freezing the possibility of withdrawal?
Well, it's funny that I am 100% the only one who knows that the investigation in this network is a complete fake, because I know for sure that I did not violate anything and it was impossible to find a reason for freezing my account during this investigation. It reminds me of the time of the Inquisition. It would be cool if they had the courage to voice the real reason for the ban, but they will not do it, because it will be very easy to prove innocence when these reasons are artificial
02-14-2020 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by maberr5322
Crocken seems incredulous that one of his fellow Russians could be cheating, but onpokaa basically admitted it himself. Since Crocken can't translate a screenshot I put onpokaa's comment into google translate for him.


onpokaa: 2 человека играют на этом аккаунте

02-14-2020 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by maberr5322
Not at tables at all today, hopefully they started an investigation. Honestly I do hope this account isnt cheating, but as mcac said if something seems out of line it needs to be brought up. If this is just one person then this is crazy, this promotion needs changed before people start dropping dead like the old wow days. To think someone would do this to themselves is actually sad.
Onpokaa literally said in the game chat, it was two humans playing on his account.
02-14-2020 , 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Fossilkid93
Crocken seems incredulous that one of his fellow Russians could be cheating, but onpokaa admitted it himself.
THIS!

I also cant believe this isn't getting more attention on the forum, than it already is. It should probably be cross posted in the cash games thread...
02-14-2020 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DivineGlory
THIS!

I also cant believe this isn't getting more attention on the forum, than it already is. It should probably be cross posted in the cash games thread...
How do I post it there as well or feel free to. I'm a little surprised there isn't more upset people
02-14-2020 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DivineGlory
Onpokaa literally said in the game chat, it was two humans playing on his account.

I know I started the thread sometimes I hope for the best but always am ready for the worse. I was responding to teotecan, basically if it is only one person, which admittedly it isnt, it's sad someone would do this to themselves.
02-14-2020 , 06:20 PM
Player onpokaa, who wins high hand promotion every week and ironman every month to the tune of 11k monthly. Recently admitted in chat to multiple players using the account to get hands in. This account is on 17 to over 24 hours daily. For weeks on end, no one player can do this. I've sent a complaint and the screenshot to support.

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02-15-2020 , 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Fossilkid93
Crocken seems incredulous that one of his fellow Russians could be cheating, but onpokaa basically admitted it himself. Since Crocken can't translate a screenshot I put onpokaa's comment into google translate for him.


onpokaa: 2 человека играют на этом аккаунте
I saw this screenshot and understood the meaning of it, for me it further proves that it is exactly clean.
You just don't understand the Russian mentality. I'm absolutely sure he wrote it for fun, because when I played every third half-reg wrote that I was a cheater and how much you can play and hated me as an opponent, because I'm a heavy opponent like him. And sometimes you want to annoy such envious people.
It's just absurd to discuss this, considering that you are poker players - I'm really surprised at your level of thinking, it's very strange.
02-16-2020 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by p0ker_n00b
lol bots are winning jackpot money. RIP Bet Online.

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bots regularly win at least part of the jackpot, because there are a lot of bots, they are sitting at every table. Today bot again won, 45K, and I think other bots too seat at this table and won part of jackpot. Chico go kill yourself. Or are you like Americans pouring money into the economy of Ukraine? Hmmmm



By the way, who thinks chico pays the bots, you're wrong. We do it with our rake. As in November 2017, instead of banned obvious colluderss from the sng, Chico simply increased the rake in the sng by 1.5-2 times

Last edited by joe64; 02-16-2020 at 04:26 PM.
02-16-2020 , 04:38 PM
1 year ago bot won 21K, and other bot 'latinacall' who seat at this table too won a little. Support then completely ignored me. I think, until we vote with our money, having made a withdrawal of money, nothing in this garbage will change

02-17-2020 , 09:58 AM
Good morning everybody,

I just want to reiterate that any suspicious activity will be thoroughly investigated by the security and fraud department. No accounts are banned or suspended based on hearsay, but it would be extremely negligent to not investigate these issues.

I understand more than most about all of your concerns on both sides of the issue. Having partaken in rake races previously and my obvious distain for anybody using any prohibited software.

You will be updated as soon as I am.

Kind Regards

Mike
02-17-2020 , 10:03 AM
Please send me private messages with all info and stats and screen shots that you have of any accounts using prohibited software.

Kind regards

Mike
02-17-2020 , 05:46 PM
Mike, I do really appreciate the effort and there is currently one guy at 5/10 who Im pretty certain who is a bot and 9001 scripter I would like to report
But the screenshot from a botting forum (https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/c...be47a9a38b.png) where you guys just told the guy who runs the bot to remove the bot makes it completely pointless.
If you don't seize their funds and refund the people who got defrauded, but just warn them instead report those people would just be a waste of time, since they are going to just make new accounts. Buying IDs in eastern europe is very cheap.
What happened to the 50-150k bloodywolf stole? Did you let him cash it out?
02-18-2020 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by NINzent
Mike, I do really appreciate the effort and there is currently one guy at 5/10 who Im pretty certain who is a bot and 9001 scripter I would like to report
But the screenshot from a botting forum (https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/c...be47a9a38b.png) where you guys just told the guy who runs the bot to remove the bot makes it completely pointless.
If you don't seize their funds and refund the people who got defrauded, but just warn them instead report those people would just be a waste of time, since they are going to just make new accounts. Buying IDs in eastern europe is very cheap.
What happened to the 50-150k bloodywolf stole? Did you let him cash it out?
Wow, that email was hard to read. Basically asking someone to quit using a bot. I can’t even comprehend how their account and funds aren’t frozen. Mind boggling
02-18-2020 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by maberr5322
maberr5322 snathed my phrase out of context. I was talking about player 'kolizino' that 2 players playing on his account. He could understand me wrong because of my bad English.
I sent 2 emails about him to support.
BetOnline Mike read full logs of this conversation.

Last edited by onpokaa; 02-18-2020 at 03:31 PM.
02-18-2020 , 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by onpokaa
maberr5322 snathed my phrase out of context. I was talking about player 'kolizino' that 2 players playing on his account. He could understand me wrong because of my bad English.
I sent 2 emails about him to support.
BetOnline Mike read full logs of this conversation.

If this is true and taken out of context, I apologize. There are so many issues going on with this site that I feel the players have to constantly protect themselves. Also let me be the first to congratulate you for high hand you are a different form of human.
02-18-2020 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by onpokaa
maberr5322 snathed my phrase out of context. I was talking about player 'kolizino' that 2 players playing on his account. He could understand me wrong because of my bad English.
I sent 2 emails about him to support.
BetOnline Mike read full logs of this conversation.
Email that i sent
02-18-2020 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by maberr5322
If this is true and taken out of context, I apologize. There are so many issues going on with this site that I feel the players have to constantly protect themselves. Also let me be the first to congratulate you for high hand you are a different form of human.
Thanks, but my account locked for 2 days.
02-19-2020 , 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by joe64
bots regularly win at least part of the jackpot, because there are a lot of bots, they are sitting at every table. Today bot again won, 45K, and I think other bots too seat at this table and won part of jackpot. Chico go kill yourself. Or are you like Americans pouring money into the economy of Ukraine? Hmmmm

It's always infuriating as f*** to see that! novar is 100% a bot account. I hope to god they don't let him withdraw that money, but I doubt we'll ever know. That money should be re-added to the jackpot. The shares received from any other bot account that was at the tables should also be re-added to the jackpot.
02-19-2020 , 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by onpokaa
Thanks, but my account locked for 2 days.
lol. Hey its teotecan. how does it feel ? I guess you didn't expect to get ****ed like that and lose everything? Join the fight, I've been trying to get justice for myself for a month, but it works the other way around.

I think it's funny - that this account played for 2 months without checks and only now it was blocked. Even if it is unblocked, the fact that the check started only now at the end of the campaign, as in my case in January, very clearly shows the network's attitude to us to the players as garbage without rights, which can be mocked. Another example for thinking people who are telling the truth here, and who just creates lawlessness. And against this background, bots break jackpots of 50K$, how hard it is for me to realize all this and digest
02-19-2020 , 05:39 PM
How big is the botting problem on BOL for 100NL/200NL? Is it similar to ACR?

Play cash on Global, but have played some tourneys on BOL and was thinking of adding in some cash tables, but seems like cash games are bot infested from reading this thread.


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02-19-2020 , 09:43 PM
Similar to ACR/WPN would probably be an accurate enough description.

      
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