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10-15-2020 , 05:29 PM
Changes keep on coming, just to inform you for no surprises.
Overlay is very big and I see the issues with the schedule and what is going on. So these small changes are necessary. If something is removed but is not overlaying is not just for the sake of removing/changing. Its to give more flow to the current schedule.

As I have mentioned I will be aiming to do a new schedule for January where it will be completely different to how it is now and alot smoother. Trust me when I say things will be good with the ideas that I have.

Still welcome all feedback and you can hit me up on skype. Just pm for the details
10-15-2020 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BetOnline Dan
Hi guys,

you will find some changes I have made to some tournaments. At the moment they are small changes. Structure, time, increased some buy ins but kept the fee as it was before. We have a series coming in November and I based the whole schedule around the regular schedule to fill in the gaps and not conflict.

I have instructions and whilst the schedule is like it is I have to try and improve things for now and then in January have a complete new schedule ready to go.

Some will complain, some will like the changes but all feedback again is always great.
Are these the ones labeled "beta"? I only see like three or so of these in the client. Other than that, I don't really see much else that changed, unless I'm missing something.
10-20-2020 , 11:44 AM
PLO MTT's have been gone for the last week and I really hope they are coming back because betonline had the best PLO MTT structure and schedule, there were ~8 of them a day, and they would run ~3 or 4 hours. I don't know if I've ever seen one not meet its guarantee. Please don't change these and bring them back!
10-20-2020 , 12:53 PM
Haven't played here in a few months, just reg'd for a little 1pm and the starting stacks, blinds are a tad funny. Will post my thoughts after, but not a fan of antes Round 1.

EDIT 1: Are all levels 6 minutes now regardless of buy in? Gross.

EDIT 2: Folded the first 8 minutes and am down 11% of starting stack. Not fun. On top of the late level math needed 5 minutes in. Might be different if stacks could be viewed in BBs like ACR, but this sucks for recs.

EDIT 3: Down 20% 15 minutes in, this just hyperforces action early as the higher stacks at the table are ultralags.

EDIT 4: The 18 minutes of late reg is over, 72/113 remaining, down 33%, card dead and now barely over 10 bigs. CL at 5.7 Starting stacks. Table chatting about how bad these are. I'm done after this one. SNGs and cash only.

Last edited by UncleJAthletics; 10-20-2020 at 01:22 PM.
10-20-2020 , 01:30 PM
Absolute joke, you sir are committing larceny if they're paying you to put this product out.
10-20-2020 , 01:51 PM
Fwiw UncleJ, these are temporary MTT's in place while they recover from their cyber attack. I agree though that the structures suck. It feels like a money grab tbh. Cram more tournaments in and don't risk paying overlays on guaranteed tournaments. The rake is higher too. A normal $22 is $20.50+$1.50 but for these freezouts it's $20+$2.

The new TD states that he's working on a new schedule and hopes to have it in place soon. Hopefully these issues are resolved.
10-20-2020 , 02:05 PM
If you have to put out a temp schedule, how the hell do you come up with this, unless the other site this dude worked at was Zynga?
10-20-2020 , 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by UncleJAthletics
If you have to put out a temp schedule, how the hell do you come up with this, unless the other site this dude worked at was Zynga?
I think he was TD at WPN for like 8 years?

But yeah, I feel there's ulterior motives w the schedule that's currently in place.
10-20-2020 , 02:41 PM
Recs play here because it's not WPN with their lifenit player pool with their freshly bittorrented Ryan Fees 6-max courses. If the goal is to turn it into that then.



How tough is it to make 5K starting chips, 10 minute levels, 3 level late reg with 20% starting stack dock for those late reg'n and antes starting Level 7?
10-20-2020 , 04:43 PM
Your talking about the freezeouts. Have you tried the GTD tournaments that play between 25 - 45 bb after late reg. In the money just over 2 hours and finished in 4 and a half?

The freezeouts were just an emergency schedule.

Try the tournaments capped at 2 entries and see what you think.
10-20-2020 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BetOnline Dan
Your talking about the freezeouts. Have you tried the GTD tournaments that play between 25 - 45 bb after late reg. In the money just over 2 hours and finished in 4 and a half?

The freezeouts were just an emergency schedule.

Try the tournaments capped at 2 entries and see what you think.
i like them! good job.

would be nice if you can also think of player from europe and put some more tournaments in the beginning. maybe let them start from that time on when the 22$ TEST 7.5k starts. this is around 18:00 CET. would be nice. im also pretty sure that this tourney would reach GTD easily.
10-20-2020 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by msw1984
I think he was TD at WPN for like 8 years?

But yeah, I feel there's ulterior motives w the schedule that's currently in place.
Taking out rebuys is 100% an ulterior motive. He removed many of them because regs have a high ROI in rebuys. Then tried to spin it as a "they weren't hitting guarantee" problem which almost never happened. Then just stopped commenting about them because he knows thats the reason he took a bunch off.

Multiple people posted they like rebuys. Recs like rebuys. Site prefers everyone has low Roi's and pays more rake.
10-20-2020 , 08:42 PM
If you don't understand why 3 hours late registration is grossly unfair to those who register at the start of a tourney here's the math.
https://www.parttimepoker.com/kenny-...e-registration
10-20-2020 , 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by msw1984
I think he was TD at WPN for like 8 years?

But yeah, I feel there's ulterior motives w the schedule that's currently in place.
If this is true, please TD, DONT EVER CONSIDER DOING THOSE 3+ HOURS LATE REG ON CHICO!!
10-20-2020 , 11:57 PM
These new 50k stack 8 min blind structures are trash!!!! Goo back to 5-10k stacks 10-12 min blinds. And no 3 hour late registration!
10-21-2020 , 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Shipmyway
These new 50k stack 8 min blind structures are trash!!!! Goo back to 5-10k stacks 10-12 min blinds. And no 3 hour late registration!
I hate 3 hour registration, and the monsters are terrible. The reason I played on this site originally was the 10 min blinds and 11 levels of late reg. If you are going to get close to 3 hours of reg then we can just play at the other two sites with bigger guarantees. I don’t mean to be so blunt but it’s the truth
10-21-2020 , 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Shipmyway
These new 50k stack 8 min blind structures are trash!!!! Goo back to 5-10k stacks 10-12 min blinds. And no 3 hour late registration!
I actually agree with this. More chips does not mean a deeper tournament.

Maybe the older structure, with late registration only for like first 9 or 10 levels, get rid of some of the pointless levels early on, and add later levels that were being skipped (like 3750/7500, 4500/9000, etc). This would be better than these tournaments with bigger starting stacks and quicker levels.
10-21-2020 , 04:40 AM
I knew this new tournament director was going to **** up the site. Why are we fixing things that werent broke to begin with? Seriously bro, you just got here and ruin the structures? Trying way too hard man. Like wtf, go away
10-21-2020 , 05:42 AM
Have to agree about the structure-thing, started playing on BoL yesterday, including a MTT. Started with 50BB Stack ( 5K/10K starting blinds) and quickly starting Stack was worth only 16,6BB (15K/30K). There was also no notice given this is a turbo of Hyper-like format, this was a normal Freezout. So when I register a Tourney like that, I do not expect it to be a pure crapshot from the beginning and even worse in such a little bit of time.

I also do not really understand the idea of why giving everyone 500K starting stack. It's not 2008 anymore, people (even recreationals) are nowdays usually aware that the number of big blinds is mandatory, not the "number of Chips".
10-21-2020 , 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Shipmyway
These new 50k stack 8 min blind structures are trash!!!! Goo back to 5-10k stacks 10-12 min blinds. And no 3 hour late registration!
I dont want to be rude but why are you posting your BS here if you dont even understand how the game works? Actually the 50K starting stack 8 minute blind tourneys starting with 250/500 blinds is by far one of the best structure you can find on BOL .... by FAR!!! 10 levels of latereg with 8 minute blinds gives us 80 minutes of latereg ( clear winner ) and last level is still 20 big blinds w initial starting stack and that gives us a nice deep structure till the end so please check the facts first before you start complaining and TD becomes frustrated and gives us the good old 3,5h latereg with 5bb as starting stack in last level. Realize its not about the number of chips they give you. Doesnt matter if the starting stack is 1000 chips or 100 000 .Only thing the could do to make these structures even better is to have them 10-12 minutes long
10-21-2020 , 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by FlatALot
I dont want to be rude but why are you posting your BS here if you dont even understand how the game works? Actually the 50K starting stack 8 minute blind tourneys starting with 250/500 blinds is by far one of the best structure you can find on BOL .... by FAR!!! 10 levels of latereg with 8 minute blinds gives us 80 minutes of latereg ( clear winner ) and last level is still 20 big blinds w initial starting stack and that gives us a nice deep structure till the end so please check the facts first before you start complaining and TD becomes frustrated and gives us the good old 3,5h latereg with 5bb as starting stack in last level. Realize its not about the number of chips they give you. Doesnt matter if the starting stack is 1000 chips or 100 000 .Only thing the could do to make these structures even better is to have them 10-12 minutes long
Well, right now the "normal" Freezouts like $2, $10 buy in have a really, really bad structure to be fair. You start with 500K Chips and 50BB, and blinds go up every 6 minutes. After 12 minutes, starting stack is worth half of what it was at the start (in BB). Again, no info that they are turbos or any other format other than a "regular" Tourney. How it's like in the Guarantee-tourneys I have no clue, however as EU-Player probably all that is left for me to play are gonna be these "Freezouts".
10-21-2020 , 08:44 AM
Are the GTD tournaments coming back in the morning? Like the 5K GTD $22 @ 8am est and the 12pm EST $109, $55, and $22s? Current schedule is very disappointing.
10-21-2020 , 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Aes
Are the GTD tournaments coming back in the morning? Like the 5K GTD $22 @ 8am est and the 12pm EST $109, $55, and $22s? Current schedule is very disappointing.

Very disappointing. I'm going to say it again, I think they're afraid of paying overlays from guaranteed tournaments and that is why were seeing this influx of 6 min level, higher rake freezouts.
10-21-2020 , 10:03 AM
Ok ill make this brief.
The freezeouts will gradually be removed. They are just temporary. The 80 min late reg tourneys with 2 entries max are fantastic. Now you look at them as 8 min blinds but you need to look at the average stack throughout the tournament. It is playing on average over 30bb throughout after late registration which is fantastic. We can make the blinds 10 or 12 or 15 minutes but then the tournaments is going to run 3 hours longer.

Im not sure why you would complain at 4-5 hour tournaments with a great structure and in the long run there will be alot more of them. If you want 8 hour tournaments that isnt a problem but then you still get people complaining that they run too long.

The starting stack is completely irrelevant as one poster said. Its just a number. I did work at wpn for 8 years and the schedule was based around regs. This different route im taking here is going to help recreationals and will be better for poker in the long term. Trust me when I say everything im trying to do is better for the players and poker in the long term.
10-21-2020 , 10:33 AM
I agree the 80 min late reg tourneys are great

      
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