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01-24-2021 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by dybboss
welcome to DONs the thing is, it doesnt have to be collusion, maybe he just wanted to f*ck with you because you made a bad call or sucked him out couple hours earlier, so, while in regular sng with normal prize pool there is often an incentive to keep the bubble alive as chipleader to make more $, here he is ~95% sure to cash - always the same amount, so he can **** around.
These things happen, especially if you play vs same regs over and over, some grudges will appear where people make -ev plays just to **** around with each other
It’s one thing to open fold when he should be jamming/limping, it’s another to muck when checked to on the bubble. Even if he’s doing it out of spite it’s still collusion. The only thing I can think of that’s happened to me before is he pressed the wrong hot key? But iirc there’s a warning for folding when you can check.
01-24-2021 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by tmanto
It’s one thing to open fold when he should be jamming/limping, it’s another to muck when checked to on the bubble. Even if he’s doing it out of spite it’s still collusion. The only thing I can think of that’s happened to me before is he pressed the wrong hot key? But iirc there’s a warning for folding when you can check.
No 100% this was not unintentional. These 2 hands don't even tell the whole story - a few hands before another guy was all in with 1,xBB, he limped along with all others as normal. Shorty won.
The hand after, unchatfou shoved for less than 1BB if I rememember correctly, I call behind, cococos shoves, everyone folds, he shows 73o.

I am not certain if there is a relation between the players, unchatfou is a Reg in these games, cococos guy is just an idiot. Or at least an idiot who does play regulary, also not some random recreational clicking 1 game at the time. However, it still should be punished. Of course in DoNs there always is reason to think villains have treated, you unfairly - I played the format almost exclusively for 3 years on Winamax prior to the German ban. However, this is just straight unethical and not okay, no matter if there is a relation between the players
01-24-2021 , 09:21 PM
He intentionally showed 73o instead of mucking? Certainly seems like he's ****ing with you then.

As long he's not been seen helping this same player stay alive at other tables, or vice versa, then I don't think we can conclude that conclusion is taking place.

I shot him a message on Skype a few days ago, but I have not gotten a response yet.

Like I previously mentioned, cococos has posted in this forum before about collusion teams in Chico SNGs years ago. It would surprise me if he had turned to the dark side.
01-24-2021 , 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MCAChiTown
He intentionally showed 73o instead of mucking? Certainly seems like he's ****ing with you then.

As long he's not been seen helping this same player stay alive at other tables, or vice versa, then I don't think we can conclude that conclusion is taking place.

I shot him a message on Skype a few days ago, but I have not gotten a response yet.

Like I previously mentioned, cococos has posted in this forum before about collusion teams in Chico SNGs years ago. It would surprise me if he had turned to the dark side.
My mistake, maybe chip-dumping is a better term. Still against T&C AFAIK, though.
01-24-2021 , 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by MCAChiTown
He intentionally showed 73o instead of mucking? Certainly seems like he's ****ing with you then.

As long he's not been seen helping this same player stay alive at other tables, or vice versa, then I don't think we can conclude that collusion* is taking place.

I shot him a message on Skype a few days ago, but I have not gotten a response yet.

Like I previously mentioned, cococos has posted in this forum before about collusion teams in Chico SNGs years ago. It would surprise me if he had turned to the dark side.
FMP


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Originally Posted by tmanto
My mistake, maybe chip-dumping is a better term. Still against T&C AFAIK, though.
That's not really how I would define chip-dumping. The chip-dumping I think of also involves collusion.

As was mentioned above, doing this kind of thing in certain types of tournaments can be a +EV strategy that is not necessarily related to anything more nefarious. In this instance, I think it's most likely that he was probably just messing around with someone.

Last edited by MCAChiTown; 01-24-2021 at 11:55 PM.
01-26-2021 , 03:50 PM
Today I dont see the $60 Turbo and Hyper KO SnGs. I hope its some kind of a temporary bug...
01-26-2021 , 08:23 PM
Just out of curiosity, are there 2+2 users in this thread that would play $30 "Fast 9's" SNGs? Trying to get Dan to add them to the schedule. Not entirely sure why they aren't an option--as I'm confident they would run as frequently as the $15 buy-in ones do.
01-26-2021 , 10:02 PM
For sure - 30 and 60 Fast 9-handed both regular and KO should definitely be added. As well as 100 6max regular and KO, turbo and hyper.
01-27-2021 , 04:21 PM
Today even more types of SnGs are missing...
01-27-2021 , 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by PSMozak
Today even more types of SnGs are missing...
Wish they would at least tell us what is going on...
01-28-2021 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by PSMozak
Today even more types of SnGs are missing...
No more PLO SnG's. The only SnG I liked and played frequently. You "guys" are doing a great job...
01-29-2021 , 06:08 PM
Why are all the SNGs I usually play being removed, the turbo and turbo pko $60 6max....???
01-29-2021 , 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JMicLett
Just out of curiosity, are there 2+2 users in this thread that would play $30 "Fast 9's" SNGs? Trying to get Dan to add them to the schedule. Not entirely sure why they aren't an option--as I'm confident they would run as frequently as the $15 buy-in ones do.
Dan followed up with me, and said it was decided to not add the $30 Fast 9's. He said it's because the average wait time is too long. I don't really understand this considering the $15's fill up in under 5 to 10 minutes during the hours I play. When you get to the $30 level, there are literally only 6-max hypers and 6-max turbos. There is nothing regular speed, and nothing 9-handed. I just can't wrap my head around this. If you look at other US-facing sites, ACR has $16.50, $22, $33, and $55 regular 9-max, and Bovada/Ignition has $11, $16.50, $27.50, and $55 regular 9-max. What Chico Network is doing is so drastically different than this.

It's pretty evident that the network is not concerned with what the players ask for or want.
01-30-2021 , 02:24 AM
the reason certain games take so long to start is because of the stupid table cap. I would love to play more game variants and buy in levels but its just soo hard with 8 cap
01-30-2021 , 04:01 PM
Well its been almost a week now and I start thinking most of the variants missing is not just a bug or something. Seems like it is intentional and probably some "great mastermind" is behind all this thinking that by removing most games it will get better for any side...

Well, let me state it clear and simple for you to understand:

1. Your most regular players ( aka the guys the network wins the most from ) play like 5 to 7 times less games. This is over 5-6 days now and any reg correct me if Im wrong.

2. Your most valuable players ( aka the guys that most deposits come from ) stopped enjoying the services provided and searching for another site already. A dozen of players already asked me on the tables ( as they know Im always there and always talkative ) whats wrong and where have the games gone.

3. You guys really dont want p1 and p2 to result in lower the action ( aka rake for you ) in times by letting your entire SnG eco system be unsatisfied, do you ?

So as a regular customer I suggest you guys bring all the sng variants back and why not introduce even more? Just take your time, I know you will do the right thing. You always do!

Much love
02-01-2021 , 07:52 PM
Yea, I don't understand their logic behind having so few SNGs. It's not like having a $30 SNG that may take 10-15 minutes to fill up as opposed to a few minutes is going to cost them money. I would play a hefty volume of $30-50 SNGs, but I have zero interest in playing 6-max turbos and hypers.

Especially when they're running SNG leaderboards.
02-23-2021 , 06:40 PM
Just bumping this thread. If there are other members of this forum that would play the Fast 9's SNGs with higher than $15 buy-ins, please speak up. There are no SNGs listed above $15 that aren't hypers or 6-max turbos. Considering there is a SNG leaderboard running, it would make a ton of sense to add some higher buy-in SNGs with regular speed blinds.
02-24-2021 , 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JMicLett
Just bumping this thread. If there are other members of this forum that would play the Fast 9's SNGs with higher than $15 buy-ins, please speak up. There are no SNGs listed above $15 that aren't hypers or 6-max turbos. Considering there is a SNG leaderboard running, it would make a ton of sense to add some higher buy-in SNGs with regular speed blinds.
i would play them if i didnt have a table cap
02-24-2021 , 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by PoutinePenguin
i would play them if i didnt have a table cap
Can I ask why having a table cap would influence whether or not you'd play higher than $15's?
02-25-2021 , 12:25 AM
Ok so its been a long time now and seems like we are not getting back the formats that have been cut.

Alright, then please add $100 6Max Hypers and turbos, regular and KO.
03-05-2021 , 07:28 PM
Bump

We want our SnGs back, please! KO and regular, Turbo and Hyper, 30 and 60. Why not 100?
03-05-2021 , 08:22 PM
you have so much potential to be the best US site and are doing everything possible to make people not want to play here any more... why?!
03-12-2021 , 08:19 PM
ive had a handful of rec players ask me over the past week or two ask if i knew why some sngs they liked were no longer available. that, and them asking me to help fill games because they know ill play anything and I have to tell them Im at table cap and cant register more.
Look i get it, you want less winning players in games with losing players to help keep the money circulating longer, but the problem is without us the games dont even run usually. I love your site, and your software but i cant see how its a good thing that everyone is playing less because of the changes you keep making.
Id be more than happy, and im sure some other guys would be to, to speak with someone actually making these decision instead of telling us to post here and then have a mod who has no say in the company relay info back and forth in a way thats extremely outdated. and most of the time when we do give our opinions here the opposite of our requests usually take place.
please please please for the love of poker you can be the best site in the US
03-15-2021 , 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by PoutinePenguin
you have so much potential to be the best US site and are doing everything possible to make people not want to play here any more... why?!
As a rec, you're driving me away by limiting the formats.
Bring them all back, it's extremely boring as it is.

Playing against regs doesn't bother me at all, take their table cap off.

Whoever you're talking to, for making these decisions, were wrong.
Your SnG environment is terrible.

The SnG "Rake" Race promo does nothing for us micro/low stakes players.

Need to bring back the "points" promo.

and bring back PLO, please........
03-17-2021 , 11:36 AM
Hey,
why u removed hu sng leaderboard?
Each and every single week while it run, me + the person I sat on highest stakes available, paid more in rake than the weekly LB had in total payouts.
Why would I battle only regs without some points to gain?
Just fkn check your stats if rake increase while LB was running was greater than LB payouts.
You can PM me to solve your hu/6m/8m/9m/10m sng/windfall lobby, I am not cheap, but you'll notice nice increase in net revenue within 1 month

      
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