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Old 06-10-2019, 12:16 PM   #1
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Hi My name is Mike, please feel free to post in our forums and ask me or my colleagues any questions related to bet online or the thread titles.

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Old 06-11-2019, 07:10 AM   #2
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Welcome Mike, was wondering when the forum would open. Not doing betonline yet, but maybe in the future.
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Old 06-11-2019, 09:56 AM   #3
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Could we have a rundown of the differences between skins on this network, by official reps or someone in the know?
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Old 06-11-2019, 10:10 AM   #4
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Welcome Mike, was wondering when the forum would open. Not doing betonline yet, but maybe in the future.
Hi there! It is officially open since yesterday . Keep us on the radar Future, you'll see a fair amount of new stuff coming on our poker room moving forward.
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Old 06-11-2019, 01:28 PM   #5
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Hi Mike. Welcome to the forum!

I think you guys have chosen an excellent time to open this forum as the other networks that cater to the US market each have tons of drawbacks at the moment. Your network has a few issues of its own I'd like to see addressed, but I still enjoy playing here more than at any of the other options. I'm hopeful that we can work together as a community to improve the games and to make this one of the best places for online pokers to come play at!

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Old 06-11-2019, 01:48 PM   #6
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Hi Mike. Welcome to the forum!

I think you guys have chosen an excellent time to open this forum as the other networks that cater to the US market each have tons of drawbacks at the moment. Your network has a few issues of its own I'd like to see addressed, but I still enjoy playing here more than at any of the other options. I'm hopeful that we can work together as a community to improve the games and to make this one of the best places for online pokers to come play at!

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Hi MCAChiTown, thank you very much for the very kind welcome.
We here at betonline always love to here feedback from our players, so that we can constantly be improving for a better future for our poker community.
So feel free MCA to share some of the issues so that we can help address them going forwards. We sometimes also offer incentives to our players for giving feedback and completing trials.

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Old 06-11-2019, 02:14 PM   #7
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Hi Mike,

Recently I attempted to cashout of my account and I recieved an email saying that my cashout was declined because it appears that my IP is the same as a user who an adverse action was taken against. This user's name is: Luisimi_Fan.

However, I have no idea who this user is and I am the only user at my house and the only account so I do not understand how this is possible. Ive sent a reply to the email and spoke with chat and its been 48hrs and I have not heard anything back yet. Do you think you can help? Thanks!
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Old 06-11-2019, 04:01 PM   #8
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Hi MCAChiTown, thank you very much for the very kind welcome.
We here at betonline always love to here feedback from our players, so that we can constantly be improving for a better future for our poker community.
So feel free MCA to share some of the issues so that we can help address them going forwards. We sometimes also offer incentives to our players for giving feedback and completing trials.

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Hi Mike, I think I feel the same way as MCA does. I have the best overall user experience when playing on BOL compared to any of the other sites available to me. The software is top notch in my opinion, and I have noticed consistent improvements made in the interest of players.

I think the big topic that is sure to come up the issue of bots.

This is definitely not the only site dealing with it. Actually, there are no sites that are completely bot free as far as I can tell. What I think all the players here would be interested in is an official statement from BOL. What is the site's stance on the topic? Is it complete indifference? Something that is actively being targeted? Somewhere in between?

Instead of starting off the new 'era' of having a BOL sub forum with a negative tone, I think it's fair to give you or someone else from BetOnline the chance to address it. It's in everyone's interest to keep the relationship between the players and the reps here on 2+2 positive!
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Old 06-11-2019, 04:21 PM   #9
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Excellent ! Glad to see you guys got the sub-forum going.
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Old 06-11-2019, 04:53 PM   #10
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Hi Mike,

Recently I attempted to cashout of my account and I recieved an email saying that my cashout was declined because it appears that my IP is the same as a user who an adverse action was taken against. This user's name is: Luisimi_Fan.

However, I have no idea who this user is and I am the only user at my house and the only account so I do not understand how this is possible. Ive sent a reply to the email and spoke with chat and its been 48hrs and I have not heard anything back yet. Do you think you can help? Thanks!
Hi Prince_of_whales, If you contact live support again and they will be able to assist you. I am sorry that you have had this issue, but I will also personally be forwarding this to the correct department to resolve your issue.

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Old 06-11-2019, 06:39 PM   #11
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Hi Mike, I think I feel the same way as MCA does. I have the best overall user experience when playing on BOL compared to any of the other sites available to me. The software is top notch in my opinion, and I have noticed consistent improvements made in the interest of players.

I think the big topic that is sure to come up the issue of bots.

This is definitely not the only site dealing with it. Actually, there are no sites that are completely bot free as far as I can tell. What I think all the players here would be interested in is an official statement from BOL. What is the site's stance on the topic? Is it complete indifference? Something that is actively being targeted? Somewhere in between?

Instead of starting off the new 'era' of having a BOL sub forum with a negative tone, I think it's fair to give you or someone else from BetOnline the chance to address it. It's in everyone's interest to keep the relationship between the players and the reps here on 2+2 positive!
Hi Cheapsuit5,

I just wanted to get the correct information for you regarding this.
Our stance is that the use of Bots on the site is prohibited, therefore all accounts that are found to be using this type of software will be banned. And what we do to combat it, well we have a Fraud and Security department that reviews account with certain behaviors that may suggest the use of this software. In addition if you or any other player sees any suspicious activity from an account I personally will gladly take the player's nickname and forward it to our Security Department for review.

Please send nicknames privately so as to use anonimity

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Old 06-11-2019, 11:16 PM   #12
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-what 3rd party software is/isnít allowed?

-is table camping allowed? I read TOS and it seems to be prohibited yet when I played here it was occurring everyday.

-can you give some clarity on the rules for buttoning? Iíve seen many people only play a HU hand when a game is breaking if they are the button and sitout otherwise.

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Old 06-12-2019, 12:28 PM   #13
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-what 3rd party software is/isn’t allowed?

-is table camping allowed? I read TOS and it seems to be prohibited yet when I played here it was occurring everyday.

-can you give some clarity on the rules for buttoning? I’ve seen many people only play a HU hand when a game is breaking if they are the button and sitout otherwise.

Thank you
Hi The Apex, so I just received this message regarding your queries:

I tested the waiting list bug on a couple tables and could not replicate the error, no blind was posted for me when the “Wait for Big/Over Blind” was pre-selected from the options menu
this should clear up your hu issue.

So on your other queries I am just waiting for a response and once I know you will be the first to hear about it.
Sorry about the miss post,

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Old 06-12-2019, 03:35 PM   #14
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I tested the waiting list bug on a couple tables and could not replicate the error, no blind was posted for me when the “Wait for Big/Over Blind” was pre-selected from the options menu
I actually asked about that in the software improvement thread. I'm surprised you couldn't replicate it, it happens a lot. I know this happens to other people too.
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Old 06-13-2019, 11:44 AM   #15
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I actually asked about that in the software improvement thread. I'm surprised you couldn't replicate it, it happens a lot. I know this happens to other people too.
Morning MCAChiTown,
How are you today? I was reposting the message I received from the correct department.
But I have been assured they are still looking into this.

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Old 06-13-2019, 01:43 PM   #16
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Is the site down? Says invalid login on the main site, yet I can log in through the poker app...
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Old 06-13-2019, 02:04 PM   #17
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Is the site down? Says invalid login on the main site, yet I can log in through the poker app...
Yea I cant login to says down for maintenance
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Yea I cant login to says down for maintenance
Thanks. I was not even getting that message. Appreciate the confirmation that I am not going crazy.
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Old 06-13-2019, 02:33 PM   #19
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Hi Guys,

We are experiencing some connection issues at the moment. We are trying to resolve these as soon as possible. All running tournaments will be paused now.
I will post an update as soon as get an ETA from our technical team as to when the services will be restored.
Apologies for the interruption.

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Old 06-13-2019, 02:52 PM   #20
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Morning MCAChiTown,
How are you today? I was reposting the message I received from the correct department.
But I have been assured they are still looking into this.

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Hey Mike,

I appreciate the update and your help in passing the information along!
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-what 3rd party software is/isnít allowed?

-is table camping allowed? I read TOS and it seems to be prohibited yet when I played here it was occurring everyday.

-can you give some clarity on the rules for buttoning? Iíve seen many people only play a HU hand when a game is breaking if they are the button and sitout otherwise.

Thank you


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Old 06-14-2019, 01:43 PM   #22
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Hi The Apex

So the “Wait for Big/Over Blind” option, should stop you posting both. You can see this option in the table settings.
There is a known bug that is currently being looked into regarding a similar issue, so hopefully it will get checked now I have told the right department.
https://www.betonline.ag/rules
in the link you can find rules and prohibited software.
We are always looking into and encouraging our players to report players/potential bots, multi account users/software that is banned or anything that goes against our rules and the ethics of poker.

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Old 06-14-2019, 02:57 PM   #23
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Buttoning is also known as Grimming and that is mentioned in the rules section. I would warn them once and report the repeat offenders.

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The abuse of sitting and playing one hand at a new heads-up cash table and having received favourable blinds/button position, then immediately leaving the table after that single hand, will not be tolerated. BetOnline.ag reserves the right, in addition to other measures, to block access to games to such players’ account for a period of time or terminating such players’ account, in its sole discretion.
Table camping is less clear in the rules. Table blocking could be applied the way it's written in the rules. Personally I don't have much issue with campers. Full table blocking and the seat scripters should be reported. I'd like to see anybody doing either of those to get suspended.

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Players may not, at any time, sit out at the poker tables with the intention of not playing or to prevent others from playing. The act of blocking tables is strictly forbidden by BetOnline.ag Poker Management.

Any player who is found to be in violation of this rule may have their account suspended or any other action taken as seen fit by the BetOnline.ag Poker Management. To query an account suspension or report any instances of this offence happening at the tables, please get in touch with poker@betonline.ag
As far as prohibited software the best we have to go on right now is:

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Many of us have gotten emails from Betonline accusing everyone pretty much of running prohibited software , threatening to seize funds and close accounts, but the said they couldn’t name the prohibited software.
This is a part of an email I got this morning-


We thank you for the information provided on the potential BOT players as we do not permit them on the Network. We are in the process of the investigation.

Please be advised that as long as you do not make use of any BOT, AI, GTO or Seating Script software your account will have no issues with the Chico Network. Software like Hold’em manager is allowed

We hope that you find this information useful. We look forward to hearing from you.

Thank you for your patience and understanding.

Best Regards,

Mike .
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Old 06-14-2019, 03:34 PM   #24
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Hi MCAChiTown, thank you very much for the very kind welcome.
We here at betonline always love to here feedback from our players, so that we can constantly be improving for a better future for our poker community.
So feel free MCA to share some of the issues so that we can help address them going forwards. We sometimes also offer incentives to our players for giving feedback and completing trials.

Kind Regards

Mike
Hey Mike,

One for us old folks, please make the lobby expandable like the tables. The fonts are hard to read for those of us with bad eyesight..

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Old 06-14-2019, 04:06 PM   #25
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Hi The Apex

So the ďWait for Big/Over BlindĒ option, should stop you posting both. You can see this option in the table settings.
There is a known bug that is currently being looked into regarding a similar issue, so hopefully it will get checked now I have told the right department.
https://www.betonline.ag/rules
in the link you can find rules and prohibited software.
We are always looking into and encouraging our players to report players/potential bots, multi account users/software that is banned or anything that goes against our rules and the ethics of poker.

Kind Regards
Mike


Thank you for the link but it seems to be the same as the last time I read the rules and is still ambiguous. Please kindly answer the following questions.

Are seating scripts allowed?

Is table camping allowed?
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