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Old 08-14-2020, 02:22 AM   #1601
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so when are you gonna reveal these strong reasons?
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Old 08-14-2020, 08:44 PM   #1602
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I got an adjustment today. Took 5 days. I guessing since it happened to multiple tourneys each with hundreds of players to adjust its taking some time.
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Old 08-15-2020, 12:44 PM   #1603
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I recorded Seat Scripters in action at the 2/5 and 5/10 NL cash games. Enjoy.

8/9/2020 - https://youtu.be/wVH-7t6mQp4

8/15/2020 - https://youtu.be/ub6bxCtliF8
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Old 08-15-2020, 12:54 PM   #1604
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People scripting in the first video: ZlobniyPes, NigaDiga, GaNduLo, WEFKNBALL, TotalDegen43


People scripting in the 2nd video: gugoaspasdp, hustlagungsta, qlcGnXXfsvcJ, Tigermindset
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Old 08-15-2020, 09:12 PM   #1605
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I recorded Seat Scripters in action at the 2/5 and 5/10 NL cash games. Enjoy.

8/9/2020 - https://youtu.be/wVH-7t6mQp4

8/15/2020 - https://youtu.be/ub6bxCtliF8
that's so bad and soooooo obvious, they should be banned. 200nl and up full ring same story.
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Old 08-15-2020, 10:03 PM   #1606
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that's so bad and soooooo obvious, they should be banned. 200nl and up full ring same story.
At least should be warned via e-mail.
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Old 08-16-2020, 11:19 AM   #1607
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Re: bet online changes payout during the tournament to winner takes all

Hi guys,
Anybody who has not received their adjustments, or who live chat has not helped, please send me a pm with your email address and account number.

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Old 08-16-2020, 05:55 PM   #1608
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short one today - but spotted a few scripters.
8/16/2020 cash game scripters https://youtu.be/Uc28RPgIfU0

scripters shown: szalai (with a 1 second delay setting); GirlPokerz; HandofGod888


Not sure how long I will be able to get these as they seem to have a exclusion sort of setting where they can start ignoring me (and presumably good players/regs they also exclude). noticed some of them making this adjustment pretty fast when I sit then don't play.
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Old 08-16-2020, 08:08 PM   #1609
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aren't scripts against TOS? seems easy ban to me.
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Old 08-17-2020, 01:39 AM   #1610
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Thanks guys for the info on players possibly using seating scripts.
If you have more questionable accounts please send me PM with all the details.

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Old 08-17-2020, 03:52 AM   #1611
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Did indeed get paid. Was more than I was expecting too.
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Old 08-17-2020, 07:23 AM   #1612
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Mike, what happened with the vip points and with your wishes that you are working on the new vip system?
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Old 08-17-2020, 07:37 AM   #1613
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Mike, what happened with the vip points and with your wishes that you are working on the new vip system?
Hi dont3betme,

Betonline released a statement about the VIP points program over 6 months ago, I have posted it on the forum on multiple occasions.

Recently the points were removed (asked for by quite a few in the forum) but had been unusable for quite some time.

I have been told that soon lots of promotions and bonuses schemes, possibly "rake back" promos will be replacing the old "points" system.

I do not want to promise too much, as I have learnt the hard way.

Rest assured the Betonline poker team along with the security team are working really hard at the moment to kick on and make Betonline continue to grow exponentially.

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Old 08-17-2020, 08:50 AM   #1614
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Hi dont3betme,

Betonline released a statement about the VIP points program over 6 months ago, I have posted it on the forum on multiple occasions.

Recently the points were removed (asked for by quite a few in the forum) but had been unusable for quite some time.

I have been told that soon lots of promotions and bonuses schemes, possibly "rake back" promos will be replacing the old "points" system.

I do not want to promise too much, as I have learnt the hard way.

Rest assured the Betonline poker team along with the security team are working really hard at the moment to kick on and make Betonline continue to grow exponentially.

Kind regards

Mike
Can you explain me, why does my 5.000.000(its ~50.000$ in rake that u just STOLE FROM ME) just Disappeared for nothing? without any notification, i havent get any email about that.
What will be next step? u just start taking money from my balance?

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Old 08-17-2020, 09:05 AM   #1615
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Mike, when you say things like "I have posted it multiple times so far in this thread" - as if you expect random readers/posters to read all posts - and at the same time you totally ignore multiple questions that were directed specifically at you that were asked just within the last 2 to 3 pages, it looks bad for you.
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Old 08-17-2020, 10:59 AM   #1616
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short one today - but spotted a few scripters.
8/16/2020 cash game scripters https://youtu.be/Uc28RPgIfU0

scripters shown: szalai (with a 1 second delay setting); GirlPokerz; HandofGod888


Not sure how long I will be able to get these as they seem to have a exclusion sort of setting where they can start ignoring me (and presumably good players/regs they also exclude). noticed some of them making this adjustment pretty fast when I sit then don't play.
I find the humor in the few seconds where you're figuring out which seat to choose to sit in like a game show...the mouse slows down like a ticker than you sit and bam the table fills up.
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Old 08-17-2020, 04:03 PM   #1617
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Hi dont3betme,



Betonline released a statement about the VIP points program over 6 months ago, I have posted it on the forum on multiple occasions.



Recently the points were removed (asked for by quite a few in the forum) but had been unusable for quite some time.



I have been told that soon lots of promotions and bonuses schemes, possibly "rake back" promos will be replacing the old "points" system.



I do not want to promise too much, as I have learnt the hard way.



Rest assured the Betonline poker team along with the security team are working really hard at the moment to kick on and make Betonline continue to grow exponentially.



Kind regards



Mike

Oh that makes sense. They removed the points because we asked for it.
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Old 08-17-2020, 07:51 PM   #1618
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I find the humor in the few seconds where you're figuring out which seat to choose to sit in like a game show...the mouse slows down like a ticker than you sit and bam the table fills up.
Thanks lol. It's about showing some time passing i.e. that the table is in a dead state (not playing or filling) and that the footage is not paused before I click. then showing how it will completely fill in a matter of seconds once I click.
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Old 08-18-2020, 01:45 AM   #1619
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Mike, when you say things like "I have posted it multiple times so far in this thread" - as if you expect random readers/posters to read all posts - and at the same time you totally ignore multiple questions that were directed specifically at you that were asked just within the last 2 to 3 pages, it looks bad for you.
Hi poker_n00b,

I have not ignored any questions, I only just got back to work as I had a family emergency.
I am sorry if I missed anything, I have posted a message stating to PM me with issues or reports or queries that I may have missed and need to be addressed.


You are correct and I should not presume that people have read the statement, I apologise.
We have great new promos/vip schemes coming soon for you guys and hopefully some bonuses that include rake back.


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The statement is below and was released around a year ago.

Betonline

We understand that there has been some speculation and frustration as to why we have chosen to change our VIP Points scheme back in August, 2019 . While the system seemed to serve its purpose in the past, as we have grown, we found ourselves in the position where it began to limit our growth potential in terms of tournament offerings.

BetOnline is always looking for ways to offer a better experience to our users, and when it comes to poker, we look to offer our players some of the biggest tournaments online. To continue to grow our prize pools, we chose to update our VIP rewards so that regular players would still benefit, but the community as a whole would benefit with the increase in new tournaments and prize pools.

Since then we released a new tournament schedule in September, 2019 that included new structures, more guaranteed tournaments and hundreds of thousands in additional guaranteed prizes every week. Our Sunday $60,000 Main Event has now been increased to $75,000 and we also offer a monthly $100,000 guaranteed tournament on the last Sunday of the month.

To this day, players still have access to their VIP points, and while they might feel they have been limited as to how they can use them, we assure you that a new structure will be announced soon. Our goal is to expand upon this model with the help of your valuable feedback.

Thank you for your support and understanding.
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Old 08-18-2020, 01:51 AM   #1620
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Oh that makes sense. They removed the points because we asked for it.
Hi The Apex,

We opened the forum to get feedback and open a dialogue with the players at Betonline.
We have shown recently and are continuing to show that we are listening and improving all areas. The recent purges and tightened security still needs improvement but shows that we are making great strides.

I encourage you all to give me ideas or constructive criticism to make Betonline improve and compete with the very best poker clients.

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Old 08-18-2020, 02:07 AM   #1621
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I'm sure I'm in the top 3 of PLO200 hands played by a (human) player over the last 5 years on this site, but got fed up with the BS and played my last hand in about May. It was obvious they were screwing us over with the VIP points and the continuous lies by Mike (how many times did he tell us the new program is coming soon?) to keep buying time really rubbed me the wrong way.

Luckily it caused me to open my eyes and realize there are several sites I like more than BOL. It would probably take the introduction of an old PokerStars Supernova Elite-like program to entice me to come back at this point.

Oh and when I really put my nose to the grindstone, I raked about $15,000 a month, so that's like 10 theoretical clients in n00b's calculations. I see that now that would get me back maybe like $1175 in rewards which is a complete joke.

I honestly think that their model was in trouble and they were headed for tough times at the start of this year after losing a lot of human players due to certain issues, but then the quarantine hit and brought in an influx of new players which has masked any issues and convinced the higher ups that they're doing well. We'll see what happens long-term. If they can continue cleaning up the bot issue and add a decent VIP program I think they could capitalize on the USA market, which has been thirsting for a great option for years.
Hi fossilkid,

I personally agree and have been trying to push a supernova elite style program ever since I joined Betonline. I used to play the beast back in the day and I think it was the main catapult that helped acr grow to what it is today.

I know I messed up by promising the new program, I was eager to start well with the forum and thought that the meetings/plans being talked about would be quickly implemented. I live and learn.

We would love some realistic ideas on the vip program or ways to improve this situation for players like yourself.
I understand your frustration at BOL and more so me. However we are here trying to make Betonline a great poker client, using feedback and research from our customers.

I hope you and your family are safe and healthy.

Kind regards

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Old 08-18-2020, 08:16 AM   #1622
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Oh that makes sense. They removed the points because we asked for it.
This is what I tell my girlfriend after I beat her. That if she cleaned the kitchen correctly and didn't dry my clothes on high or jesus ****ing christ if she stopped cutting my sandwich diagonally then I would have no reason to continue beating her.

People need to learn when things are their fault.

Mike is a real man, he knows this truth better than anyone.
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Old 08-18-2020, 10:28 AM   #1623
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Hi The Apex,

I encourage you all to give me ideas or constructive criticism to make Betonline improve and compete with the very best poker clients.
1) Don't lie or make false promises to your regulars
2) Continue to fight the bots and take action when they are reported including refunds
3) Continue to monitor and enforce no seat scripting
4) I actually don't want anything like SuperNova Elite or the The Beast. They just attract the wrong kind of players - volume grinders, teams, and bots. It does little for the recreational player or the low volume serious player.
5) Instead offer reload bonuses, tournament entries, rewards for playing x days per month (incentives logging in and playing but not necessarily grinding all the time)
6) slightly more time to act would be nice.

That's all I can think of for now. To not be totally negative, I have heard of some bots being banned or disappearing for whatever reason, and I have always received my cashouts very quickly.
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Old 08-18-2020, 10:59 AM   #1624
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short one today - but spotted a few scripters.
8/16/2020 cash game scripters https://youtu.be/Uc28RPgIfU0

scripters shown: szalai (with a 1 second delay setting); GirlPokerz; HandofGod888


Not sure how long I will be able to get these as they seem to have a exclusion sort of setting where they can start ignoring me (and presumably good players/regs they also exclude). noticed some of them making this adjustment pretty fast when I sit then don't play.
Pathetic, good job BOL "security"
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Old 08-19-2020, 02:23 AM   #1625
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This is what I tell my girlfriend after I beat her. That if she cleaned the kitchen correctly and didn't dry my clothes on high or jesus ****ing christ if she stopped cutting my sandwich diagonally then I would have no reason to continue beating her.

People need to learn when things are their fault.

Mike is a real man, he knows this truth better than anyone.

Please read the comments actually written by me.

"Recently the points were removed (asked for by quite a few in the forum) but had been unusable for quite some time. "

I also apologised for jumping the gun and promising you the new program early. The communication from Betonline was not the best regarding this topic, and I tried to give you guys inside info that backfired.

I would also like to remind you again that this is a public forum, admitting felonies and making accusations whether they be satirical comedy or not could be used as evidence.

Everybody can clearly see the recent efforts and hard work that Betonline are making to improve all areas. The purges and tightened security, reimbursed funds, it will take time to improve all areas but rest assured we are working on everything.
I can promise the next 6 months will be extremely exciting, new promotions, bonuses, new tournaments and hopefully a few series that will be competing with some of our largest competitors.


Kind regards

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