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Old 04-29-2020, 03:55 PM   #1076
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Re: BetOnline.ag Poker: Cash Games Thread

I bet I can tell you their 3bet %, CB, fold to CB, and aggression factor!

And yah, no human player in the history of poker ever crushed .05/.10 that badly for a year+ without attempting to move up.
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Old 04-29-2020, 05:08 PM   #1077
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soapOpera Stats:




Pyropyro Stats:



PARpero stats:




You might be hard pressed to find 2 let alone 3 human players with stats SO similar over that sample size. Let alone all of the other fishy stuff.

I'm new to this site, and first was bringing this up selfishly because these are the games I'm playing in currently, but now I really feel bad for all the players that have been victimized by these bots.


Mike, these players are 100% bots. There is no sliver of doubt. Please let me know if there is anything else you need. If not, please let me know what will be done to address this.
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Old 04-29-2020, 05:20 PM   #1078
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Meet feo_fan.

With almost $10,000 in winnings, or 999 buy ins, he is the largest winner in the "history" of PLO10 on the internet(according to statsname). He's got 550k hands at PLO10 recorded, and 12 at other stakes(misclick on table open?)


Stats look familiar?

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Old 04-29-2020, 06:41 PM   #1079
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Wow. 25k+ at 10PLO. After these posts we will be able to conclude 1 of 2 things.

1. BOL puts the hammer down on the bots. They aren't just blowing smoke up your ass and do care about the integrity of the game.

2a. Mike pushes this to the security team and nothing is done. At this point we can conclude BOL views bots just as they view regulars. Part of the game, rake generators, and they do a whole lost less bitching than humans.

2b. Mike pushes this to the security team and nothing is done. Perhaps it is members on the "security team" who have a vested financial interest in said bots. Although somewhat far fetched, and not able to be proven, certainly a non 0% chance this could be the case.

Ball's in your court.
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Old 04-29-2020, 11:22 PM   #1080
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I know this is a very small sample size but would you consider this possibly a bot? I know they've lost money, but I'm sure bots lose money too.


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Old 04-30-2020, 04:18 AM   #1081
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Thx IBETUFOLD34 for posting these screenshots. I cant send private messeges to Mike, and wanted to make the same post.This 4 bot playing in shifts , 0-24 and all of them plays 6 hour a day.The most obv botring ever.
Ive stopped playing omaha here becouse of these bots , and they were here when I started to play on chico almost 2 years ago.(Feo and Pyro 100% and then came soapOpera)
The boost omaha is a good thing coz this bots cant play it, but noone else plays it they need some promotion.
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Old 04-30-2020, 07:28 AM   #1082
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I've been saying they should make the move to boost only and watch the bots either disappear to ACR or come back after a haitus when the botters have finally made them compatible with boost
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Old 04-30-2020, 08:02 AM   #1083
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I know this is a very small sample size but would you consider this possibly a bot? I know they've lost money, but I'm sure bots lose money too.
Possibly, yes. I don't like to comment too much on their particular statistics publicly though. Yes, some of the bots can be found losing money, especially in small samples.


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I've been saying they should make the move to boost only and watch the bots either disappear to ACR or come back after a haitus when the botters have finally made them compatible with boost
Huge -1. Boost isn't for everyone.

I believe it was WereWolfen who stated he saw some of the NLHE ones playing Boost.
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Old 04-30-2020, 12:09 PM   #1084
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I've been saying they should make the move to boost only and watch the bots either disappear to ACR or come back after a haitus when the botters have finally made them compatible with boost
So then we would have ~5 days of no bots and then? We're stuck with a format most people dislike
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Old 04-30-2020, 12:42 PM   #1085
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I've been saying they should make the move to boost only and watch the bots either disappear to ACR or come back after a haitus when the botters have finally made them compatible with boost


The one I posted only plays boost now. I know those stats aren't from boost as I think they can't track those stats, but he's doing the same stuff at boost as he was doing at the regular tables.
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Old 04-30-2020, 12:43 PM   #1086
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I believe it was WereWolfen who stated he saw some of the NLHE ones playing Boost.

You are correct, from the list I received and the one I just posted, there are multiple that play in boost.
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Old 04-30-2020, 03:10 PM   #1087
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It is strictly prohibited to make use of any software, artificial intelligence or tools, in conjunction with our poker software, in order to gain an unfair advantage over other players. This includes, but is not limited to, the use of “robots” (also referred to as “bots”) and/or non-software based systems such as subscription services or websites. Any actions taken in our poker room must be executed by the player personally, via our poker software, without the assistance of any other software, artificial intelligence, virtual machines or other tools not pertinently specified above in permitted software.
You agree that the poker room can take any steps necessary in order to detect and/or prevent the use of software, artificial intelligence or other tools. We reserve the right to close any account/s and/or confiscate funds from accounts found to use any software, artificial intelligence, virtual machines or any other tools, as stated.


Update: There hasn't been a moment that I have seen in the past 48 hours where one of the bots hasn't been on playing every table available up to the maximum 8. They do take "shifts." They NEVER play at the same time. They are almost certainly run by the same bot operator.
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Old 04-30-2020, 03:31 PM   #1088
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Reports of these bots going back over a year and a half
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Old 04-30-2020, 05:20 PM   #1089
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Hi Time4Revenge,

We do care about any suspected accounts and I am always asking for information.
Please send me anything you have in a private message and I will forward everything so that it gets seen by the security and fraud department.


Kind regards

Mike
Hi BetOnline Mike,

You do not care, because it's been reported CONTINUALLY in this thread for over a year, and you have done NOTHING.

Kind regards

Your paying customers who are pissed off at your inaction
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Old 04-30-2020, 06:28 PM   #1090
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I'm going to add Mr Currell to the bot list here, he's the one I posted.
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Old 04-30-2020, 07:55 PM   #1091
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Cruell is just an avarage reg with weird sizings but im not sure he is a big winner,I dont know I dont use tracker on chico.
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Old 04-30-2020, 08:36 PM   #1092
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Cruell is just an avarage reg with weird sizings but im not sure he is a big winner,I dont know I dont use tracker on chico.





That's Currell, he's just a weird player.
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Old 05-01-2020, 01:24 AM   #1093
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hey mike , I and others are still waiting for answers about the 2 tables cash game restriction.
You are not able to spot bots but make silly decisions your network is the best !
It appears the network doesnt want winning players on the tables !
All the players who won 10k+ between march and april have been punished...
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Old 05-01-2020, 02:12 AM   #1094
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Hi BetOnline Mike,

You do not care, because it's been reported CONTINUALLY in this thread for over a year, and you have done NOTHING.

Kind regards

Your paying customers who are pissed off at your inaction
Be a nice loser and shut up. that s the network policy. They do not care and have more to do to annoy the regular and honest players I am really sad that this network is so successful now. customer management is catastrophic.
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Old 05-01-2020, 01:59 PM   #1095
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For what it's worth I'm not mad at Mike or BOL. I do think the players deserve a relatively timely response based off the information that has been provided.

I have monitored the lobby pretty actively and done a decent amount of research and I don't see a current bot infestation at other stakes. This is a PLO10 problem with the bots that have been named. So those of you playing any other stake of PLO, this problem doesn't appear to be affecting you directly. It DOES however affect you because it stops ANYBODY from moving up. These bots are really the only ones beating these games currently.
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Old 05-01-2020, 02:29 PM   #1096
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Also, the bots are NOT on currently. This is extremly rare. Fingers crossed.
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Old 05-02-2020, 02:58 AM   #1097
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I played quite a bet with Curell, he's just a nitty reg with weird sizings. I played him a ton in the boost pool, coincidentally the place where I don't find any of the bots I suspected. Glad to be off this site, the rake is awful
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Old 05-02-2020, 03:34 AM   #1098
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Chico Ban ?

hello,
my post has been deleted , but I will continue to post here and others forum my request until I get an honnest answer from Chico!
Obviously the support stays silent...

Few weeks ago , some regs have been restricted to a two cash games tables max. for no reason.
It appears that we have all big wins over a short time period. Nothing amazing when you play in PLO but some NL players and MTTs are also restricted.

we can imagine that they are looking at the earnings / rake ratio. Like on pppoker craps clubs but at least on ppp you can create a new account.
On chico they threaten to ban you for life and grab your money.
And ofc , now, your payouts are also restricted .


I would like people to be warned.
It is very clear that if you want to be able to play poker there, you have to lose or not win more than the rake you will generate. Which is very silly . A good player even with 2 tables will continue to win but will generate less rake and fewer tables will be played too.
For my part , as soon as I get my money back I will close my account.

feel free to comment your experience on the network....[/B]
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Old 05-02-2020, 03:46 AM   #1099
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hello,
my post has been deleted , but I will continue to post here and others forum my request until I get an honnest answer from Chico!
Obviously the support stays silent...

Few weeks ago , some regs have been restricted to a two cash games tables max. for no reason.
It appears that we have all big wins over a short time period. Nothing amazing when you play in PLO but some NL players and MTTs are also restricted.

we can imagine that they are looking at the earnings / rake ratio. Like on pppoker craps clubs but at least on ppp you can create a new account.
On chico they threaten to ban you for life and grab your money.
And ofc , now, your payouts are also restricted .

About the bots, I start to understand why generally they operate only on two tables...
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Old 05-02-2020, 08:23 AM   #1100
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Re: Chico Ban ?

I'm still sitting on 540,000 VIP points that I can't do nothing with. At one time they were worth a few hundred. Site used to be good a year ago. But no any longer. That's why I quit playing there.
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