Ugly is right. Few players (playing more bingo than poker).

And the "random card" routine needs work. See way too many cases of the moron who calls with no hand, no draw manages to pull out a miracle front-runner catch while I can't seem to ever make my open-ended straight draw.

Of course if you lose the morons you are down to something like 5 players left.

Runner-runner

But in their defense, I'm not sure how to make this work better until more good players join and play regularly.

I think the "real" poker players won't play when the time commitment to win something is so long.

That leaves the morons who call every bet with no hand, no draw. I like to play poker as much as anyone. I've cashed in a $1500.00 event at the WSOP and I think I am a pretty decent NLHE player. But...

I'm pretty sure the cards are juiced in this game to make it more "fun" for the bad players.

Makes it harder to win for a good player.

If u cant beat bad players......

I can ( and do) beat the morons whenever the "random number" generator doesn't give them their 2, 3, 4 outer to beat me.

The moron goes all in with Q4 suited against my KK and pulls off a miracle time after time.

Or they raise EVERY hand and again get a miracle draw when I call with a hand that has them beat when the chips to in.

Say what you want, but it is not a normal random deck.

I don't think there's anything wrong with the RNG. The boards don't seem to be any different than those on the cash sites I play on, and have played on. However because of the way players play on this site, if you want to be a winning player here you need to modify your style of play somewhat to take that into consideration. Tactics that work fine against regs who have some idea of what the game is all about, are often nothing but a losing proposition on BUP. Obviously still use your game knowledge to play smart, just adjust.

Understand that the player who generally limps/checks/min bets may have actually made trip kings on the river, even though they only min bet. So don't raise with your two pair, and get crushed. I actually played in that hand and lost , but believe me I now know to lookout for that type of behavior from that player. Or the pre-flop raiser who bet 8 BB's is holding 8,2o, and then, yes as sometimes does happen, he WILL crack your A,A, when he hits his two pair.

Use player tags, take detailed notes, and realize that players here will play hands that no reg would ever be caught dead playing, and accept ahead of time that when you 3 bet, the whole table who limped will often call you with nothing more than a low pair, A + rag, two suited cards, or nothing. Everyone here is a either a super fish or play like they are. I've played on other free sites like NLOP and Pure Play, and am a regular on Poker Stars using free chips (only way US players can play), but I think BUP players are the worst.

I would say at least 75% of the BUP players are total fish who've learned how to play badly by watching other fish, and have no clue how to even spell poker, much less any knowledge of strategy. Bad play and high aggression is the name of the game, because hey, free chips, so if they lose,so what - it didn't cost them anything to begin with, and you can't win much anyway.


Since you mentioned your WSOP cash (well done!), I'm thinking maybe you haven't had much experience playing online. Sorry, but deal with it, get over it, or go play somewhere else. Nothing gets me steamed worse than the guy who's always complaining how he can never win because the site's RNG is faulty/rigged.

+1

always gives me a chuckle when someone complains that they need better opposition so that they can win.

agreed.

I am beating the BUP players (as pointed out that are so bad eventually they lose no matter what). But without help from the site, it would just be easier (take less time).

I did play online when it was available (for real money).

I hoped that this site could be useful practice, but between the moron players and the wacky site (and the chip dumping) it isn't as much fun as it could be.

Exactly what type of help from the site would make it easier for you to win, and more importantly why should you get this help?



You still can, unless your state/country where you live expressly prohibits it.



You're obviously determined despite what anyone says, to find things about the site that annoy you and that you feel prevent you from being a winning player. I suggest you find somewhere else to "practice". Maybe try one of the other "free" sites, although I imagine you'll still find the same issues you've already expressed on them too.

Anyone who complains about "moron players" doesn't have a clue of how to win at poker. You win at poker when your opponents make more mistakes than you do.

An abundance of "morons" increases variance, but also increases your overall ROI.

Sry, Jw, regarding my comment above. I realized today that previously I misunderstood what you meant when you said: "I am beating the BUP players (as pointed out that are so bad eventually they lose no matter what). But without help from the site, it would just be easier (take less time)."

I mistakenly thought you were asking for BUP to help you to win more easily somehow, but now I see you were actually referring back to your earlier comment about the site being rigged to help the 'moron' players win more easily.

An open-ended straight draw with two cards to come should hit about 33% of the time. I kept track and had an amazing 82 open-ended straights on the flop and none of them hit!

Random my ass.

You should check out this article by online poker pro Nathan Williams, entitled, "Is Online Poker Rigged? - Here Are the Facts [2019]" .

https://www.blackrain79.com/2018/11/online-poker-rigged.html

In it, he says that to apply hand probability percentages in order to see if a site's RNG is performing correctly, you need a sample size of thousands of hands, which I'm quite sure you've not played during your short time on BUP. This guy has played millions of online hands and he knows what he's talking about.

Something that I don't believe he brings up in the article but that has been posted many times on 2+2 and on other poker discussion sites, is that because you see so many more hands per hour online than you do while playing live, it can skew your perceptions regarding the randomness of the deals.

Anyway, you can check out the article if you want, plus there's a huge thread about the subject on the Internet Poker forum here which you might want to read some of, or you can just continue listening to your own voice and believe what you want.

Either way, as I've said before, if you think the site is rigged the solution is easy.........don't play there. Just don't keep beotching about it and think that anything will happen except pissing off other players.