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07-31-2018 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MPN Alex
It's neutral in the sense that we are not doing any work to explicitly support, or prohibit third party software.

Not having local hand histories probably makes it very difficult to implement tracking software. But making things easier for third-party software developers is not a priority for us.


Even the old client has analytics. We're not complete dinosaurs!
Okey. So, lets say I was able to build a software that would allow me to save all my HHs from your client and that would allow me to use a hud since it would track most hands, I wouldn't be breaking any "rules" and this wouldn't justify you blocking my account? I would simply build a "simple" software that would track my hands while playing and allow me to use a hud.
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07-31-2018 , 05:10 PM
When is the Grosvenor update please?
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07-31-2018 , 11:36 PM
Few thoughts about MTTs:

- Push bit more for non-hold'em offering, at least PLO / PLO8. I can see you removed those which never launched, but you should have kept few more non-hold'em tournaments, make sure they run (sats etc.) and get rid of the rest.
- Don't call one seat guaranteed 22 -> 109 satellite as "Mega Satellite". It's tilting.
- Make sure there's no dead zones especially during European evening. I think there's room for few extra tournaments. You should also test late night hyper rebuys, they used to be quite popular.
- Each rebuy with currently just 6 levels of rebuy-time should be changed to have 9+ levels of rebuy time. 6th level is 50/100 without antes, which mean much fewer rebuys and smaller prize pools.
- Add antes to lower levels of the tournament.

- Check tournaments which cancel often and try to change them so that they would launch. For instance you can:
- Change buy-in
- Lower player amount required to start (you can combine this by making late registration longer, especially a thing if you have some deepstack format which is running like 50bb+ deep at the end of current late registration)
- Change them turbo -> regspeed or other way around depending on time

I am the one who brought up changing 22 1r1a Big Antes -> 11r 1r1a Big Antes Turbo and you did great job to change it quickly. Love to see that it launched on the first time without more advertising (22 1r1a probably launched like under 10 times this year).

As much as I would like to see rake part removed from rebuys I know that is not going to happen. But I would at least request you to lower rake taken from R&A-satellites: regular rake @ them means less seats. Rake them 50% less and see more people in the main tournaments which support higher guaranteeds.

Would love to see some MTT aimed promotions, small and big ones. If you're planning to run UCOP this September, please make your best to have somewhat interesting promotions alongside it. But there's no reason why you couldn't have some weekend-long promotions running like 10 tournament miniseries with some promos, like Omaha Weekend with some added leaderboard. It's also great way to introduce new tournaments.

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Edit/MH: See https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...24&postcount=4

Last edited by Mike Haven; 08-01-2018 at 10:36 AM.
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08-01-2018 , 02:21 AM
which site/client use ecopayz?
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08-01-2018 , 03:10 AM
https://mpn.poker/poker-rooms/ here is the list with all the poker rooms
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08-01-2018 , 04:03 AM
My colleague Peter, our Poker Room Manager, has just launched two new threads here.

UCOP IV - €1,000,000 Guaranteed Series - 9th to 23rd September 2018 - We are looking for feedback on our biggest ever Universal Championship of Poker, planned for this September.

Online Tournament Feedback Thread - For feedback and updates about our online tournaments.

Please get involved!

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Originally Posted by JimmyTimmy
Okey. So, lets say I was able to build a software that would allow me to save all my HHs from your client and that would allow me to use a hud since it would track most hands, I wouldn't be breaking any "rules" and this wouldn't justify you blocking my account? I would simply build a "simple" software that would track my hands while playing and allow me to use a hud.
We don't prohibit this currently, although you should be careful to follow the other rules around third-party software. We have a clear Game Integrity Policy which can be found here: https://mpn.poker/wp-content/uploads...y-v2017.08.pdf

We can't guarantee that future updates to our software won't break your tool, however. And we may change our rules on HUDs and tracking software in future.

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Originally Posted by dairuss86
When is the Grosvenor update please?
It will be next week. Grosvenor is in the middle of holding a major live event, and has decided to hold off on the launch for a few days.
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08-01-2018 , 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
Few thoughts about MTTs:...

Addressed here: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...thread-1718926
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08-01-2018 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Enn Sink
https://mpn.poker/poker-rooms/ here is the list with all the poker rooms
thanks for the link , i already tried 80 % of the skins...payments method on mpn is diff not their strongest attribute
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08-01-2018 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Bravepitt
thanks for the link , i already tried 80 % of the skins...payments method on mpn is diff not their strongest attribute
Why do you say that? Most of them are eu bookmakers and I think most of the playerpool uses €.
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08-01-2018 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by thexfale
Is anyone else getting the "sit out" bug? If I run out of time on the table and get sat out, I am unable to use the "I am back" function, even if I click it a second after I get sat out. Table freezes and I have to close it and my seat is gone.
Yup. Get it a lot. If I click the sit out next hand button it kicks me off the table mid hand too.
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08-01-2018 , 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by KossuKukkula
Why do you say that? Most of them are eu bookmakers and I think most of the playerpool uses €.
I gotta buy a paysafecard to play on here...thats why lol
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08-02-2018 , 04:37 AM
We have a server deployment this morning, to improve the reliability of the log out process. The games will be paused for a few minutes at 09:55 WET / 10:55 CET.

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Originally Posted by Bravepitt
thanks for the link , i already tried 80 % of the skins...payments method on mpn is diff not their strongest attribute
Could you let me know what country you're from and what your preferred deposit methods are? I will look into what's available for you.

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Originally Posted by babaar
Yup. Get it a lot. If I click the sit out next hand button it kicks me off the table mid hand too.
If you haven't already, please would you report this to your poker room with details of when it happened, screenshots if possible, etc?
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08-02-2018 , 05:31 AM
Hi, quite sure that I am one of the longest playing players on the network - in 2008-2009 my first poker game was played on MPN.
Before this thread was created I have posted a couple of things in the unofficial thread. I'm going to repost them here.
Setting bet size using scroll wheel and custom bet size presets - seems both of them already have been addressed and going to be implemented. Already very happy about it.

What has not been discussed and I think is important:
Sitting out at cash game tables:
When multi-tabling, currently it is very hard to sit out for a short break on all the tables at the same time. Since BB and SB positions long term are always money-losing positions for everyone, players usually want to finish the round after they paid blinds and before they sit out. Playing in non blind positions makes up blind position losses. Currently, if you miss clicking "sit out" on one of the tables or a player next to your right sits out unexpected you are dealt in in the big blind and if you still want to on a break you basically have three options:
1) Resume all of the other tables and manually try do a synchronised sit out later - break gets delayed, the same problem could repeat again.
2) Leave after posting BB at one table. This is highly losing strategy since BB makes up most of the price needed to pay for a play of an orbit and is always losing position long term.
3) Don't resume game play at other tables, finish the whole orbit and try to sit out again. This will guarantee that the player will lose seats at all other tables. At higher stakes it is not easy to get seated at the table which is running and players generally like to resume to the game they were already playing.

I hope you see how inefficient all these options are and everything can be solved with old good "sit out next BB" or "sitout all a tables next BB" button.

Minor problems I noticed:
While it is possible to set 2 or 4 colour deck for gameplay, HH replayer has only 2 colour deck.

Thanks for reaching out for feedback, gl.
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08-02-2018 , 05:35 AM
Couple things I noticed on the new client (Redbet version)

- The banner at the top of the lobbies seems unnecessarily large and reduces the amount of info available to see at a glance.

- When you see the balances in the top right I would have expected to be able to click on the tickets icon for example and be taken to that page rather than it just hiding everything

- There is no way to get into any of the settings without opening a table first. This means simple things like changing the timezone of the client are impossible without sitting down and playing as far as I can tell

- Observing a table (at least a MTT table) doesn't seem to be possible. I can see this being done to protect against data mining but it also makes bubble situations a lot harder to play.

- There is no way to tell what MTTs you can play with any tickets you have from the ticket screen. I would have expected to be able to click on them and get a list of available MTTs like the old client.

- No buy-in filters for the MTT lobby?

That's all I've got so far
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08-02-2018 , 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by TheFlipper
I hope you see how inefficient all these options are and everything can be solved with old good "sit out next BB" or "sitout all a tables next BB" button.
Completely agree. Thanks for the feedback, we will make this happen.

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While it is possible to set 2 or 4 colour deck for gameplay, HH replayer has only 2 colour deck.
We have a plan to improve the look and feel of the replayer. Our starting point was our internal version which we use for game integrity investigations. That's why it is more utilitarian than beautiful at the moment, but that will change.

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Originally Posted by SleazyP84
Couple things I noticed on the new client (Redbet version)

- The banner at the top of the lobbies seems unnecessarily large and reduces the amount of info available to see at a glance.

- When you see the balances in the top right I would have expected to be able to click on the tickets icon for example and be taken to that page rather than it just hiding everything

- There is no way to get into any of the settings without opening a table first. This means simple things like changing the timezone of the client are impossible without sitting down and playing as far as I can tell

- Observing a table (at least a MTT table) doesn't seem to be possible. I can see this being done to protect against data mining but it also makes bubble situations a lot harder to play.

- There is no way to tell what MTTs you can play with any tickets you have from the ticket screen. I would have expected to be able to click on them and get a list of available MTTs like the old client.

- No buy-in filters for the MTT lobby?

That's all I've got so far
Thanks for this. Some great points here which we will take on board.
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08-02-2018 , 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by SleazyP84
Couple things I noticed on the new client (Redbet version)

- The banner at the top of the lobbies seems unnecessarily large and reduces the amount of info available to see at a glance.

- When you see the balances in the top right I would have expected to be able to click on the tickets icon for example and be taken to that page rather than it just hiding everything

- There is no way to get into any of the settings without opening a table first. This means simple things like changing the timezone of the client are impossible without sitting down and playing as far as I can tell

- Observing a table (at least a MTT table) doesn't seem to be possible. I can see this being done to protect against data mining but it also makes bubble situations a lot harder to play.

- There is no way to tell what MTTs you can play with any tickets you have from the ticket screen. I would have expected to be able to click on them and get a list of available MTTs like the old client.

- No buy-in filters for the MTT lobby?

That's all I've got so far
same points for sngs,no buy in filters,lobbys,or see or open tables that are running??
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08-02-2018 , 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by sniper8225
same points for sngs,no buy in filters,lobbys,or see or open tables that are running??
It's unlikely that we will allow wholesale observation of tournaments, especially SNGs. This is both to prevent datamining and reduce bandwidth usage (bandwidth costs money).

We may allow observation of tournaments in certain circumstances - special events, tournaments that you have played in, perhaps final tables. I'd welcome feedback on this particular point. When do you think it's particularly important to be able to rail?

Buy-in filters and lobbies are planned.
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08-02-2018 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MPN Alex
When do you think it's particularly important to be able to rail?
MTTs you have entered are about it. No disrespect intended but I doubt anyone is really wanting to rail the UCOP FTs unless you know someone on the FT, where as a $25k WCOOP event might get some casual viewers. Can't really see why anyone would want to watch a SnG personally.

Another small UI thing, I think the payouts should have their own table on the info box or if space is a premium swap it with the registered players and have them under the description and the prize distribution on it's own.
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08-02-2018 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MPN Alex
When do you think it's particularly important to be able to rail?
Bubble and FT-bubble time at least, when playing in a MTT.
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08-02-2018 , 01:33 PM
Some table feedback:

- Stack sizes when you fold can be hard to read as they're a dark grey colour. In general the font size seems a little small. I think you could remove the line about what position you are and fill that space with a bigger stack size font. Actions notifications like Call/Fold etc can go where the timebank bar is as these don't happen at the same time.

- Would be nice to have blinds in the title bar. The level/blind info on the table is tiny.

- I think position in the tournament should be on the table at all times and not just in the info box. This relates to bubble/FT bubble spots and also payjumps where you don't want to have to keep opening and closing the box every hand.
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08-02-2018 , 03:20 PM
Sit out next bb option would be nice.
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08-02-2018 , 03:34 PM
Some feedback from a short stack player, in the new client I do not seem to be able to choose for how many bb's I want to buy in for.

Of course I understand should MPN not want to have short stackers around in the future, not everybody likes us and I understand why that is

But one thought I have about this is, that at least for micro PLO, us shortstackers make up a not so small part of the population and without them, way fewer tables might end up running.

As I said, if it is the wish of MPN not to have short stackers in the future, I understand that, even though it would affect me personally and I would have to move my volume somewhere else but I am not sure it would help the poker ecosystem if fewer tables run as a result.
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08-03-2018 , 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by MPN Alex
Could you let me know what country you're from and what your preferred deposit methods are? I will look into what's available for you.
hi MPN alex ,

im from canada & my favorite payments method is ecopayz...it is right now imo the most preferred and convenient payment method for us in CA !

I think i fund a skin that suits me well ,great sportsbook lines & a lot of variety in the casino ...flat RB in poker! nordicbet ...i think im good here thank you
thing is, ist never good enough lol

the prima version on that skin doesn't link properly to players accounts...so i couldn't play a hand!

Last edited by Bravepitt; 08-03-2018 at 01:36 AM.
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08-03-2018 , 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Bravepitt
the prima version on that skin doesn't link properly to players accounts...so i couldn't play a hand!
Could you please send me more details on exactly what happened? This is concerning.
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08-03-2018 , 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by thexfale
Is anyone else getting the "sit out" bug? If I run out of time on the table and get sat out, I am unable to use the "I am back" function, even if I click it a second after I get sat out. Table freezes and I have to close it and my seat is gone.
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Originally Posted by Archang3l
I get that bug sometimes at old client.Don't know how it is at new one.
Thanks to help from this community we have discovered an issue that, under unusual circumstances, affects sitting out players in Heads-Up SNGs. If you believe you may have been affected by this issue, please contact your poker room's support team and they will investigate and issue compensation if appropriate.
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