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Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
As a thought, making Monster Rebuys -> Wild Wests instead might be worth a shot. Current Monster Rebuys have a major problem that last levels before add-on play effectively with 1bb-2bb stacks. By allowing multiple rebuys it wouldn't have to be so. Then you could also make add-on bit smaller (if keep any) and late registration longer. I think that way they would support far larger prizepools for even smaller buy-ins. It's also very possible format for hypers with 2 / 3 min blinds.
Can you please explain, to the best of your memory, the format for these Wild West tournaments? I do not believe that they were ever on MPN (but I could be wrong). I googled it, and gave up after a very quick search, due to too many unrelated results
There is currently no option to allow multiple rebuys at once. You can suggest it in the
Official MPN thread and also in the new Prima client (if you use it).
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Originally Posted by TheTerminator
For me I think there needs to be more levels in the middle stage of rebuys (after rebuy over) if u cut them out earlier and add antes unless the starting stack and rebuy are higher 4/4/8 for example.
It does seem very shallow from end rebuy period and when we get to level 20 we are now at a higher level then we where at previous which does not make it better imo
Add perhaps
350/700 and
700/1400
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Originally Posted by tedSTRETCH
I play almost all the daily tournaments on your site 11r+. The new changes are pretty horrible, the structure is super fast and the play is alot shallower throughout the tournament, the average stacks are shorter at final tables.
Before all these changes MPN had some of the fastest regular speed tournaments online- most of the offerings would be turbos on other networks.
Its madness that you only get 6bb if you make a rebuy in a regular speed mtt the level before the addon is available.
I would suggest changes for the rebuys like 5k starting stacks instead of 3k or making the levels 1-3 min longer if there are antes from the start of the tournament. Making levels longer after addon period is also another option.
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Originally Posted by TheTerminator
A agree with Ted I think the benefits we once had in early game are being de-valued by the quicker structures, I think we could change this by either adding in some levels which i suggested earlier in the middle stage to give more play post re-buy OR making every RB above 20bi a 4K starting stack - 8k addon.
Freezeouts 30bi and above i believe should now be a 7500ss to accomodate the new antes to give more play for ur buck.
This isn't running anything down Peter, I think u are really beginning to make great strides on the MTT schedule overall and hope u continue to make such great and welcome changes
Thanks for the feedback about the new structures. When MPN reps started to post on 2+2 (less than 2 weeks ago), one of the biggest comments was the MTT blinds structure, how it was outdated and how there should antes from the start.
Since then, we have introduced 2 new structures, after taking feedback from here, and put them on most NLH tournaments on the site. This was only a few days ago. Now that these new structures are live we are getting 2 lots of comments:
1) Antes finally from the start, new structures are great!
2) This plays too fast now, around levels 10-20
Tweaking the structures with feedback directly from the players is very helpful. However, we will not be able to make every player happy, this is just natural. Some players have said that they will play more due to the new structures, since they are more exciting, others have said they will have to play less, due to them being too fast.
I do agree that the play around the end of late reg for most rebuy tournaments is a bit fast, here is a proposed change:
The rest of the tournament would play out as it does now, which should have much more play than previously
I do not believe that anyone has mentioned the blinds structure for freezeouts, so unsure if they need to be changed.
Please give comments on the above, and I'll look to introduce it for some tournaments on Monday/Tuesday
@ TheTerminator – I removed your dup post from the official feedback thread, as addressing it here
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Originally Posted by tedSTRETCH
Making levels longer after addon period is also another option.
Not really possible on the site unfortunately. It is technically possible (search for "burst" on the client), but it is a bit of a mess and can be confusing
You can suggest it in the
Official MPN thread and also in the new Prima client (if you use it).
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Originally Posted by tedSTRETCH
Also, why are there not deepstack or longer level tournaments on your site? Not all players want to play a hyper turbo 300 person field that is over in 3hrs. Some daily slower structured mtts would be nice.
What type of levels (minutes) are you looking for? What range of buy-ins and formats (FOs/rebuys/etc), or just generally all?
I did add in 2 pairs of tournaments, which start in the next ~6 hours:
14:15 UK time - €500 Highlander - €11R, 15 minute levels, 8 levels late reg - also has a mini version with a €1.10 BI (€50 GTD)
16:30 UK Time - €400 Deep Freeze - €22 FO, 15 minute levels, 10 levels late reg - also has a mini version with a €2.20 BI (€50 GTD)
I am guessing at the guarantees for something like this, but hopefully they will run a couple of times over the next few days and we can adjust.
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Originally Posted by tedSTRETCH
Adding in some daily 6max freezouts would be nice
Give me ideas on buy-ins please. I added in 23 daily FOs a couple of days ago, 5 of which were 6max. See a few posts above for the schedule
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Originally Posted by tedSTRETCH
along with more sattys to the Sunday 200E during the week or at least on fridays and saturdays. Some 2,3,or 5 seat gtd 20E freezout satellites would be awesome to get more runners for the Sunday Major
There are a TON of sattys for the majors on Sundays (and many during the week too). Most are now direct feeders to the majors, rather than generic tickets like they were before. If you search for "feeder" in the client, you will see this. Majors in this case I am counting the €110 Big Top & Mount Olympus, and also the €215 High Society.
The megas for these are €22 for the €110 and €55 for the €215. Today we have the following:
2 Seat Mega to Big Top
3 Seat Mega to Big Top
2 Seat Mega to Mount Olympus
5 Seat Mega to Mount Olympus
2 Seat Mega to High Society
3 Seat Mega to High Society
There are also daily megas to these too, as well as feeders to the Sunday megas!
The problem is getting players to register so that the tournaments reach the minimum to start. Minimums are pretty much at the lowest they can be right now. Maybe with the new freezeout structure, it will help them to start. I suggest that if you like to play these, then register now for them. Once the first person registers, other tend to follow. For some reason, players seem to not like to be the first person to register!