This thread will be focused on the online tournaments that are currently running on MPN, along with feedback from you about what you would like changed, new tournament requests and other general comments that you have.

Currently our tournament schedule is made up of the below. This is only the guaranteed tournaments, not including satellites or feeders:



PDF here
Updated 16/08/19

We will consider all feedback regarding the MTT & Satellite schedules in this thread!

September 2019

Added:

€250 Mini Fantastic Four (Omaha) - €2.20R, same structure as the €5.50 €750 guaranteed tournament at the same time
€200 PLO Booster - €11/€5.50, daily @ 20:30 BST, 6 handed, 5,000 starting (and boost) stack, 10 minute levels
€300 Booster - €11/€5.50, daily @ 20:45 BST, 8 handed, 5,000 starting (and boost) stack, 10 minute levels

Updated:

€250 Early Bird Omaha Rebuy - €3.30R, you now get 1,500 additional starting chips if you register before it starts
€333 Nightly Threesome - €3.30R, daily @ 21:30 BST, changed from 6 minute levels to 8 minute levels

Satellites/Feeders Schedule holding post

Hi FarseerFinland, you beat me to being ready with this thread! Unsure if I move you post to here, if it will be the OP or not!

-The new Prima client only supports NLHE and PLO, hence why you won't see much other mixed tournaments, even on the old client. It was before my time at MPN, but they really never ran. PLO8 is still on the old client, albeit with lower guarantees. The guarantees have been smashed so far this week, so they will be raised if it continues

-This was mentioned yesterday by a colleague also. They currently have that name, so that people recognize the format. We want to offer 2,3,5,10 seats for all these, however they simply do not start. A perfect example of this occurred a few hours ago. The Mega Feeder to the Big Kahuna has 3 minimum players to start (this is the lowest that can be offered, or it just invites 2 friends to register at the last second and flip for the seat). It started, barely, with 3 players, and by the end of the late reg, it ended with 13. Had it been 2 seats (either 4 or 5 minimum players needed), it would not start, same with most of the other feeders that are not on Sundays. A couple of the Turbo Rebuy Feeders for this week will now feature an "Early Bird" incentive - register before the tournament starts to get 500 additional starting chips (25BB). These are clearly displayed in the lobby, starting with the High Society Feeder later this evening. We will see how these do, and might expand it if proves to be popular. We have really started to focus a lot on satellites, and hopefully people see that a lot more have been put into the lobby recently

-Lets test a new Super Turbo Rebuy. Look for tournament ID 32952666 in the lobby. Its open for registration now!

-We wanted to have separate tournaments, some with 90 minutes of rebuys, others with 60. Will have to think about this one

-Which tournaments, rebuys?



-I have been watching the lobby, along with the daily reports for the last couple of weeks and have started to remove/edit such instances. Some run 2-3 days out of 7, and those are being left alone for now. If you have specific examples we can have a look

-Minimums are being lowered more than they have been previously, there is only so much we can lower them to though, before it gets too inviting


np! Lets hope it doesn't overlay today :P

This is something that might be feasible down the line. Currently there is an issue regarding tickets, how they will not work in certain scenarios when you begin to change the rake structure

UCOP is being run in September with a €1M Guarantee for the series - please check this thread and give us your feedback: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...018-a-1718881/

There will be UCOP specific promotions, that should hopefully target most players and inspire them to play a couple more tournaments. We will look into the other parts of this your paragraph!

That hyper rebuy is a nice addition. I did post it to my Finnish friends, let's hope it'll launch and will be first of many hyper rebuys in the upcoming schedule. I promise to play it every time I am playing an evening poker session. Probably even more often, hypers are fun to play as they don't last long.

I think antes should be added to all NLH tournaments from the start. They give early levels more meaningful, and unlike live events there's no downside of having smaller antes (live events usually don't have small enough chips).

If there's a problem with satellites not launching you may want to add some flip satellites that feed them. Make them so that they launch even with small overlay as you will gain that money back from satellite rake. Like 2,2€ flip to 22€ can launch with 6 players or 5,5€ to 22€ with 3. Or make some freerolls which award satellite tickets for the lowest tier of a satellite tree.

Personally I don't like early registering at any games (especially satellites) since first levels feel so meaningless with 10/20 no antes-levels until antes are reached. Satellites also should generally last far shorter period, especially if they are feeders to some exact tournaments not regular satellites awarding tickets. To first play 2-4 hours for a satellite then play a lot more for target tournament right after that is very long time for recs and regs alike.

One note for satellites: making them to award smaller tickets have caused lots of problems. Mainly it have caused late registration to close many times early as prizes have been reached. They've also been prone for somewhat foul play due to that (some spots when player can register just as some player is about to eliminate, causing late registration to end and player who registered gets at least his ticket back or some money and gets a free shot to the main prize). I think you should just make them award all remaining money after tickets to next place.

We will discuss internally about this

Went in the middle of what you said. Some €5 flat (no rake) Flips are in the lobby for the €22 Feeders tomorrow, and the rest of the week. Needs 4 to start, begins 6 minutes before each €22 Feeder, awards €22 (€20 + €2) tickets. Player needs to register themselves for whatever tournament they want to get into and the ticket expires in 7 days.

There is currently a weekly €50 Freeroll that awards tickets. More frequent ones are coming in mid August though!

There are a wide range of ticket satellites and feeders on MPN currently:

Super Turbo Rebuy - ~1/20 get a seat - Avg Time: 47 mins
Monster Rebuy (to Big Break)- 1/27.5 get a seat - Avg Time: 160 mins
Flash - 1/5 get a seat - Avg Time: 8 mins
Megas - ~1/5 get a seat - Avg Time: varies on which event, but 120 mins is a rough guide
Super Turbo FO - ~1/5 get a seat - Avg Time: 15 mins
Turbo Rebuy - 1/10 get a seat - Avg Time: again varies on amount of seats, but 100 mins is a good estimate

Data above is from the last 4 weeks

While I do agree that players might not want to play for 2-3 hours before a target tournament, there are plenty of alternative (and much faster) options


I do agree with this regarding the potential for foul play and have gone for something in the middle again. The feeders/tickets that give out €110 for 1st places, will now give €55 tickets next. This should cut down on such potential and I will watch to see if this helps.

Regarding missing out on late registering for a tournament, due to it closing early, the solution from a player's perspective is very easy on this one

We do appreciate the feedback to you are providing. Great to see the €11 €750 1R1A doing so well tonight

Hello you guys should make the Initial Stack 10k, and the higher buy in 20K, like ipoker/acr/partypoker/pokerstars fr everyone is doing big stacks, and add reentries, and start in 25/50 5 antes, playing 10/20 15/30 without antes is 2010 no other poker site have it.
and for the normal schedule you guys should put the last 11r 500 lucky firecracker as a 5 rebuy

I wouldn't remove current 11r turbo Firecracker, but it might be worth a shot to support it with adding 5,5+r turbo 30 min before that (and another 5,5+r turbo would be nice 1,5 hours before as well). Would make me to continue session more often.

But it never run

It did last Sunday when I played it. But yeah, probably not very often (haven't checked it last two months). I think having few extra tournaments to keep players continuing their session might help that one.

E: I love the thought of naming 22:40 CET hyper turbo "The Super Finnish", but it might divert potential players as name doesn't show that it is hyper tournament and some people may think it is some kind of private tournament. Either simple "Hyper Turbo Rebuy" or "Very Fast Tournament" as a name might help players to find it.

Posting this in the mtt community forum would be a good idea too.

I know its been said but antes from the start is important to me, I have no incentive to play 250bb+ deep no ante poker and so I always late reg, encouraging players to play from earlier and a little shallower would create more re-entries and bigger prizepools for us and rake for you guys. Every other site has antes from the start now apart from micro. It would also allow you to maybe improve the late game structure as right now its super deep early on and then mega crapshooty in the important stages, a steadier game would result in a better player experience IMO.

I think the Sunday schedule is a little too congested at peak time (~6-9) and leads to some of the games suffering as a result, most recs are only playing a couple games so cant be in everything and most regs are playing many games on other sites too so also end up missing a couple of the games out.

A deeper stacked game with a better structure around the 30-50 euro buyin mark at like 5/6pm would be a good addition imo, while most people are just starting their sessions and can commit to a longer game rather than the more turbo type games currently on offer around that time.

In the same line of thought, a couple "warm-up" type games earlier on a sunday around the 1-3pm mark would be a good addition

A little bit more variety would be good, most other sites have a nightly special like a thursday KO, wednesday rebuy or whatever and then a corresponding mini version too. I think this would help keep people interested rather than the exacts same schedule every night. Scrap the gigabyte and use that slot for a nightly special in the 50-100 euro region and have a 10-20 euro mini version of the same format.

I know you guys dont have the promotional budgets of the bigger sites but some promos that encourage people to play more and provide a sense of achievement like leaderboards are good I think or have the winner of the nightly special each night win a ticket to the sunday major or maybe special avatars for winning (I personally wouldn't care about this but recreationals might)

Antes seems to be a big point from quite a few players. It is currently being discussed internally and I would expect something decided by the end of next week

I will check to see where we can fit such €5Rs - thoughts on the guarantees? Please be realistic

Thanks for the idea (and the tweet?) about this!

See above for my comment about antes and thanks for also mentioning it. The more people that post about the same issue, generally gives it a higher priority. Better play in later levels should of course be the norm, and this is being addressed too in our internal discussions


Thanks for the thoughtful post. Its hard to satisfy all tastes, but we try out best. Clearly our liquidity is lower than on other sites, but I don't quite agree with the congested part. Maybe examples of which tournaments are suffering, and what you think could be scrapped/changed would help. Are you suggesting that a tournament or 2 should be removed, and then increase some of the guarantees on the remaining?

€33/€55 freezeout around 5/6pm? Might not be able to happen this weekend, as the structures would not be changed by then.

Regarding warm-up type events. Looks like the schedule can handle a €33 FO at ~2:30pm UK time. €1K guaranteed, with 6 minute levels and 90 minutes late reg, or 9x 10 minute levels? Might even get some of those players to play in the €22 Megas to the Big Top and the Mount Olympus around then!

There is already a €11R at 1PM, the Break Away. I have lowered the minimum amount of entries needed to start for Sundays, and lets make it €750 instead of the normal €500

I have just doubled the guarantee of the Lunchtime Special for Sundays to €400, that is an €11 FO at 1:30pm UK time

I have doubled the guarantee of the 2PM €22R Break Da Bank for Sundays, up to €1,000. The tournament has now been changed slightly and will have 9x 10 minute levels of late reg & rebuys

The €11 €150 Deepstack Freezeout has now been increased to €250 for Sundays, starts at the usual 2:10PM UK time

I have removed the 3pm €500 Good to Go from the schedule, and instead put in a €750 GTD, with 90 mins late reg. It stays as an €11 1R/1A, will only be on Sundays and only needs 6 to start. Its now called the €750 Loaded

I have also just doubled the guarantee of the €5.50 6-Max Rebuy for Sundays to €400, that is at 3:10pm UK time

Anything in particular you want to see in this 1-3 slot?

I will have a think about these parts and discuss internally about what we can do

Quick thought is that 22:30 GMT for 500€ guaranteed and 23:30 GMT 300€ guaranteed. They would probably sustain for now and when tournament series and summer is done I think there would be room for higher guaranteeds and people would know they are there.

Checking the calendar there seems to be deadspot between 9 and 12 AM GMT. Maybe some generic 11r turbo 300€ guaranteed there as both 1 earlier and 1 later are regular speed? Another dead spot is during night time, but not sure if you really want to have 24/7 schedule in the long run.

Also just a casual thought: there might be room for one extra tournament during prime time around 19-19.30 GMT. Something different which might grow, like 33r semiturbo 8 min blinds with 80 min latereg. 55r seems bit too expensive, maybe 33r or 33 1r1a would have larger potential player pool?

I might just be weird but it annoys me slightly that the mosh pit gets renamed the big kahuna on a sunday lol, the mosh pit is pretty much the networks flagship tournament so it should just be called the sunday mosh pit or super mosh pit or something. I also think mini mosh pit flows better than mosh pit lite. /nitpicking

Yeah Mega Mosh Pit / whatever with Mosh Pit would make more sense. I did miss it once or twice because Big Kahuna never did ring a bell at first.

And just to be clear GMT I used @ earlier post was the one shown @ opening post schedule. It doesn't recognize summer time.

does anybody remmeber wild west. / wild wild fest . they were running 0.25e buying but u could rebuy as much as u want..
it was like 2k 4k price pool rebuy tournament . like 10 years ago . i really missed them . they were quite fun D: and if ur lucky u could score high with min investment i remmebr server has like 3-4 online players and 1+k player were playing that wild fest tournamnt
and i like to see low stake guarnteed 9 man MTT 2-5e buying tournmant.. freezeout
i remmeber we had many of them.
like 3/5 e buy-in 150 guaranteed 9 man seated freezeout.

since ur number decrease each week . u guys gotta do someting .

€500 Nightly Turbo Rebuy starting at 23:20 UK Time (22:20 GMT). Open for registration right now for tonight, tell your friends!

€300 Late Night Turbo Rebuy starting at 00:30 UK Time has also been put in

Will monitor guarantees on both and adjust/scrap as needed

There is also a Super Turbo Rebuy starting 10 minutes after the €300 Late Night Turbo Rebuy. It is a €5.50 €200 GTD called Cooldown. I’ll leave it up for now and see if that starts to take off

Presumably you mean 9am (morning) to noon? Please confirm

So we have the Megabyte, and its being doing consistently well (only not run once in the last 4 weeks). It is the €1200 GTD €33 FO, starting at 20:00 UK time.

On Sundays, replacing the Megabyte is the €2,000 Early Bird Scrooge 1R1A - 10 min levels, 9 levels late reg. It was new last week and ended with a €2,700 prizepool. It plays slightly deeper than a typical 1R1A, with 4K SS/R and an 8K addon. You get an additional 1,000 starting chips if you register before it starts.

I do not really want to replace the Megabyte full time, but could move this Scrooge tournament to 30 minutes later, and make it a daily, maybe €1,000 GTD to start with.

Thoughts?

I definitely think that €33 works better in this spot vs a €55. We used to have a €55 and it never did well.

Name going forward (for next Sunday) will be Sunday Mosh Pit! Keeping the €11R version as Mosh Pit Lite

However, we are introducing a Mini Mosh Pit to run at the same time as the Mosh Pit. This will be a €5.50R, have the exact same format as the Mosh Pit, with a €1,500 guarantee. This will start from Monday! Bumped to €2K GTD on Sundays.

Hi Noanic,

Thanks for the feedback. I can ask on Monday regarding these Wild West or Wild West Fests, to see if anyone remembers them!

There are plenty of €3.30 and €5.50 Freezeouts each day. On MPN they are 8 handed, rather than 9 handed. The guarantees are mainly €50-€100

There is a €150 €5.50 FO at 12:10 UK time, as well as our €350 Kilobyte, a €5.50 FO at 20:00 UK time. We can definitely put in another €150 €5.50 FO between these 2 tournaments, what time do you suggest?

The €5.50 €100 Early Bird Deep Stack Freezeout starting at 22:10 UK Time has been bumped up to €150 starting from today

We can add in an additional €3.30 €100 FO somewhere on the schedule to, between 16:00 and 21:00 UK time. Where is good?

Yeah 9 am - 12 am GMT. There's 0 rebuy tournaments of over 1€ buy-in there. Late evening schedule changes looks nice, finally there's something worth playing later in the night.

Scrooge 1R1A daily sounds okay... although it is bit late as it will have smaller fields it might work rather well alongside Mosh Pits earlier and turbo rebuys later.

I do remember Wild West. It was part of Entraction / B2B / IGT network which closed 2012. They had like daily turbo wild west with 0,25€ buy-in (each buy-in gave 500 chips, but blinds were higher than @ MPN) and 8000€ @ 11 PM (EET, 8 PM GMT) guaranteed back then, and network was roughly same size or bit smaller than MPN / Prima nowadays. E: And they raked 9% for buy-ins and 4% for rebuys/add-ons.

Good point

There is a €22R at 10:00 UK time (9:00 GMT) already: €500 Bust The Bank

I have added in 2 more:

€5.50R €250 Morning Madness @ 10:40 UK time - 6 min level, 10 reg/rebuy levels
€11 €500 Early Bird 1R1A @ 11:30 UK time (1K extra chips if you register before it starts) - 10 min levels, 9 reg/rebuy levels

This is now done. €1K daily, which I hope to be able to start raising quickly, and then a €2K on Sunday. Both start at 20:30 UK time

Id just rebuild the schedule from scratch.There are too many rebuys which are not as popular as they once were and to make it worse you rake the rebuys when you should be doing everything to offer value to try take customers from rival sites.

Your schedule should be 3/4 freezeout and your daily major shouldnt be a rebuy.

Less tournaments and bigger gtds.Stuff like $11 buy in $150 gtd, what is the point of this its just a sng.

ok. yestarday i decided to play one 2nl rebuy tournament.. it was like 5 min before regis close.. so i was thinking about. i could buy one rebuy and one addon which allows me to play and go deep.. but after 5 min later toury was like went crayz everybody was all in garbage hands since we all had like 4 -5 BB anyway. most of the time i had the best hand preflop but lost it due to 4 ppl went all in preflop.. little that i know i lost like 12+ buy in while waiting the addon and rebuy close.. since i already invsted to much i keep push . and it cost me too much and no fun at all and i just left it. .. .it makes me hate the turbo re-buy..
what is the point of milking us .. like register close at blind lvl 15. but rebuy doesn't close untill blind lbl of 20+ while we have like 3-4 BB ,,, we force to go all in everyhand... and can;t just go away since already invest too much...it was bul**** . never gonna play again..

Your schedule should be 3/4 freezeout and your daily major shouldnt be a rebuy.
+1 to this one
Less tournaments and bigger gtds.Stuff like $11 buy in $150 gtd, what is the point of this its just a sng.[/QUOTE]

+1 exaclty

and we dont have 9 man sit and go like we used to have. we had 9 man SNG challenge aswell it was awesome.. leaderboard and etc..

Hi Peter,

Great to see the new thread here from Micro and some quick work on the schedule. Some good additions already. Been playing micro from ladbrokes moved there way back, and in recent years almost full time.

Have some thoughts on the schedule - think could really get the 12pm-5pm going again which hopefully might spark to life some of the games u also added and an addition or 2 for the evening.

*Just a note the TMI at 6pm is missing from 2mors line up*

12PM Early bird(1500 addition) Rebuy 1K(increase as gets going) 25rb - 3K/3K/6K

12.30PM 500 5rb Turbo Rebuy

2PM 20rb just add an Early bird(1500) to encourage more runners earlier

3PM 500 Early Bird(1000) Second Chance 22 - 4Kss(1rb) turbo

3.30PM 1K Early Bird Deepstack Warm up 25 (2500 if reg early) 7500ss 12L of late reg

4.30PM 500 10rb Turbo Rebuy 6max

5PM 2K(increase as gets going) 5rb (same set up as Big break on sunday 12 levels late reg)

6.30PM 1K 11rb Turbo Monster Rebuy(same set up as 7.45)

10PM 1K Early bird(2000) 22 1R1A Turbo 4k/4K/8K

11.30PM 1K Early bird(2500) 25 Crapshoot(1R at any time) 5kss 3 min blinds