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Originally Posted by MCAChiTown
Your statement "the Chico Network actively searches for collusion and botting networks and shuts them down." is false, and at the very least misleading, because it certainly hasn't been true about the network over the past 6 months.
I have my opinion based on my conversations with people at these companies and my experiences in the games I play on said sites. You have your opinion based on what you read on forums and see in the games you play.
We are just going to have to agree to disagree on this point.
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Originally Posted by MCAChiTown
I've sent them multiple large bot lists which have not led to any removal of the accounts.
I have certainly seen this type of thing overlooked by poker site security departments before. I suspect it is because it is difficult to filter out the rants and raves of players versus what might actually be true reporting.
I agree that many sites could do a better job of parsing this data. Unfortunately, I'm not sure how to achieve that goal in a cost-effective manner.
For example, I'm certain that I could sort through player submitted data and suss out the real from the bull**** with far greater accuracy than the average poker site security department employee. I suspect that you might be able to as well. Unfortunately, the hourly rate I would charge for such a service is above and beyond what anyone would pay, it isn't something I wish to do for a living, and thus, it's not a viable solution. Similarly, hiring you to do a similar job likely isn't viable as well.
Now, you're probably itching to say that you have already done the job of finding the bots for free. BUT, what you fail to realize is that someone has to look through the hundred or so false and ****ty reports per day, find your report, and believe what you have submitted in a timely and cost-effective manner. Not as easy as you might think.
For all I know, your methods of bot detection are flawed and you are generating a plethora of false positives. I've seen it before and I'm sure I'll see it again.
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Originally Posted by MCAChiTown
What would you suggest as an appropriate time frame for when we should start seeing changes or at which point you would no longer believe that they are taking it seriously?
I know for a fact that they are taking it seriously and thus, I have faith that the issues will be mitigated.
Your perception is diametrically opposed. Since you feel very strongly about the matter, I would suggest that you cease and desist playing at all sites where you believe the games are -EV (financially or otherwise) immediately and move on to greener pastures.
Ultimately however, everyone's internal calculations are different and each consumer needs to make a decision that is best for them. Some are choosing to flee. Others are choosing to ramp up their activity. And yet others couldn't care less. To each their own.
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Kahn