Hello to all!
Firstly I want to apologize for my terrible English)
So, I played on partypoker from affiliate Yourpokerdream. They sent tournament tickets packages at March with some discount. I bought 2 packages (70*22$ tickets) for $1370. Since then, I haven’t seen no tickets, no money.
At the beginning support answered, that tickets will be added next week. This was repeated week after week about 2 month.
Then they asked to write on E-mail to their “Finance department”, which never answered. I suppose that it never existed.
In August, the owner of the site has changed, as they said; he promised to deal with the situation. Firstly he said that he creates new neteller and skrill business-accounts, and verification may take a long time. Ok, maybe. Then he said that he can make a bank transfer. I gave him my requisites, but he said that transfer is impossible, because I haven’t IBAN (my country still doesn’t use IBAN for international transactions). I don’t know how it works, but my manager in bank claimed that transaction is possible. If somebody knows this procedure, please write who is right.
Next I asked why they can’t pay on partypoker account. Manager answered, that party will not approve it, because would be too much rakeback. But I bought packages, so they made a deal with party, it looks strange for me.
One month has passed, but skrill and neteller accounts still not ready. The manager said he will send me screenshot of skrill letter to proof his words. 2 days have passed; I still don’t get a screenshot.

I know another players with the same situation. I hope, they will write here. If somebody has same problem or, conversely, has successfully cooperated with this partner, please write.

So, I don’t advise you to deal with yourpokerdream.

Hello . In April 2016, I logged on to the website yourpokerdream.

After registering chose WinnerPoker room, I began to play.
2 May I received an unexpected offer to buy tournament tickets.
From further conversation with the customer support team, I realized that if you send them money on account with Neteller, they will send the tickets .I sent them money, totaling about $ 1,500.

A month later, I know that tickets are canceled, and I'll get the money back with payment of 100 euros. Throughout June and July there was correspondence with YourPokerDream VIP Support and finance.

Dates payments permanently transferred, and now August 1st I recognize that the change manager. New manager Chris in Skype promises to return all the money and a choice of two options: 1) it creates a new account at Neteller and send me the money 2) makes the transfer to the bank account. It takes a month, account Neteller has not made money wire transfer can not get because of lack of IBAN. On the proposal to transfer money to the card Visa or game account refuses.

If anyone has any similar situation please unsubscribe on the forum. If necessary, I can show correspondence by mail, skype.

Same problem here. Anyone got it solved?

DONT REGISTER AT THAT SCAMMER SITE!

I want to tell you about a very large-scale fraud by the affiliate yourpokerdream.com. After my post on the forum (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/51...onths-1626765/), I found other players, who suffered from fraud. According to our calculations the debts amount to tens of thousands of dollars, maybe even more than $100k!!
YPD uses the following fraud schemes:
1) Sells tournament tickets at a discount, but doesn't overcharging it to account;
2) Doesn't pay cashback on various pretexts;
3) Backing on offline tournaments with a request to transfer the pre-money to their accounts.
All names of support and names of owners (which exchange every year, lol) are fakes. We think, that many names in rakeraces are fakes too.

If you want to know, how I lost my money, you can read topic (link higher) and end of the story next:


So, what we have at this moment:
Main debts:
- $1370 - $50 = $1320 for tickets
- $400 cashback
And as I wrote higher under spoiler, some earlier debts:
- $250 for diamond status
- About $100 cashback on coral (they promised extra 5% in skype, but I didn’t get it)
- Money for TAF promotion, I don’t remember how much, a few dozen probably.
Totally around $2150 and 100500 broken promises.
I offered ypd owners to answer me in previous thread, but they said they don't interested in it.

As I wrote here, I found other players, who have suffered from fraud. I was surprised, that nobody wrote something on forums. Some of them will write here and describe their situations.
Please, don't register in poker rooms from YPD!!
I also want to ask the representatives of the poker rooms to refuse to cooperate with this affilate.

Dear MUforever1,

thanks for open this thread to give us the possibility for an official statement.

First we should make clear that something is for sure not OK with you, that is why you got banned. We as affilate has the same right like a poker room to frozen a member account included pending bonuses. The reason why this happend you know very good.

As you know by yourself you recieved all bonus payments since 2013 month for month. You recieved more as 10k cash by YourPokerDream since 2013. Only the last payment you did not recieve cause you got banned.

As you know there exist always different views. A poker Player who got banned at a poker room has also always another view as the poker room even if he cheated at the tables.

It is absolutly correct that YourPokerDream has existing debts connected to the mismanagement of the old YPD Management. I am aware that there happend in the past some Things which should not really happen and it is hard to find a apology for this. Unfortunately it is impossible to change the past and it does not help me or anyone else to think about it. Solutions are important!

And lets make something clear. Not everybody who thinks he has to get money has really to get something!

Since i am(Chris) in charge, i do my best to find for everybody who contact me in a normal way a solution. Just some players forget that i lead with my buisness Partner YourPokerDream by another company and i am not committed to take care about some old debts.

But i think about buisness and i see no reason why i should not solve some existing debts if some players contact me in a normal way.

A fact is that there exist only a few people who really has to get some money by YPD. I am with everybody of them in touch and agreed for a payment plan. Some of them even still play over YourPokerDream cause they see that we hold the rate payments and that all works fine. Some others do not play over YPD but also recieve monthly rates.

Of Course i am very unhappy that there exist a few people who really had not a nice experience and some debts. But on the other side there are also a lot of players who are very happy with YourPokerDream since years. This is the other side and the bigger amount!

But yes, there are also few players who got no rates yet cause we just start now with it or i just did not know about the issue. I am a human and not a machine. I also needed a bit time to get a overview about all and to understand what is going on and what i have to solve here.

Everybody who is not in touch with me already and has some existing debts i ask to contact me as soon as possible by email:management@yourpokerdream.net

I will be more as glad to sort out every single issue. I am not a magician and i am not able to make any miracles as someone expect maybe. The only thing i can assure is to take care about all and process payments like with this guys who already made an Agreement with me.

It up to everybody to be in touch with me and recieve monthly payments or not. If someone prefer to talk **** to attack me or to thread even without any reason then i can tell already what will be be the result.

There exist only one way and this is the normal one. I have no time to dicuss or to stick on old storys. And for some conspiracies also not.

I will not react anymore in the Forum for your pointless Posts and also not for a few other guys who make maybe the same mistake and also change the Facts a bit. Always two views exist.

So please everybody who who is not in touch with me,please contact me by Management@yourpokerdream.net to agree for a solution.

Cheers

Chris

OP = flopped dead

I didn't know that someone can hold a scam like that over such long period.
The most brilliant scam was the investment promo. Offering 12,5% for 2 weeks money. Send ypd 250 USD,u get back 281,25 after 2 weeks. You will definetly get those 281 USD, and suddenly after 1 week you will get the chance to invest more money,maximum 10k. YOu made a good experience for that easy money with 250 dollars, you will invest much more this time! 5k maybe. Here we go, you will never get back the money. Suddenly they change management again. Noone is responsible to pay back, but as goodwill they obv will do it in monthly rates they promise big amounts. If you are an active player, you will be lucky if u get 50 usd per month or every few months, always excuses, even hacker attack on neteller account once,that was one of the funniest.You will NEVER get back your investment, NEVER!
Fake race leaderboard. Fake longterm goals,where a player receiving an unbeatable longterm offer and at the end obv receiving 0.00! Creative excuse, changing managements or using not a correct form of language in the emails with ypd.
The guy is always changing his alias/name, but doesn't realize that everyone know about it. No matter in which language they reply, always same grammar mistakes .
I have to add, that no matter if a player gets blocked by the pokerroom, the aff will always receive his comission! I could have written here tons of things about their scams and excuses but to make it short:
NEVER DEAL WITH YPD AND WARN OTHER PLAYERS. You might receive a few dollars if u promote some players for them, but they will scam absolutely all they can! 100k scam is so cute just according the few players that I know the amount must be bigger already! I would have posted so many other things, but I would break the forum rules, I appologize I can't add more info

Hi folks,

Ive started playing over yourpokerdream in 2014.
The owner of Yourpokerdream (at this time he called himself Steve) and I agreed to an target goal to rake 50k and then ill get a package for the aussiemillions.
Besides that i got about 8% from their monthly fakerakerace (at this time i didnt know that). I thought this is a pretty nice deal compared to other affiliates and started playing because i didnt think that they are scamming with that much rake in the rakeraces. I mean why would they scam their own players. Well, at least thats what i thought back then.

In November they told me that they have an opportunity for their loayl players, something they call "INVESTMENTPROMOTION" where i can invest up 5k and after two weeks i get 115% back.The first time ive send them 700$ and i got 770 back within one week.( smart - now i was convicted that this actually works and sent them more).
Now I know it was very naive to do something like that, but again i thought they cannot scam their own people with that much players and rake. So did send them the 5k - after approx. three weeks i got 2800$ back.
In February 2015 ive started asking when i will get my money. The owner "Steve" told me that the money is at the Tax department of Spain and they investigate these transactions (until today 28.11.2016, about two years later, they still owe me about 2300$ (well minus 93€ - thats what i got this month – generously).
In april 2015 a new boss from ypd added me on skype with the name Sascha and told me that the old management (Steve) took the money but that he is gone now and that he (Sascha) will do everything he can to pay the debts from yourpokerdream.
So far so good i trusted him – again.
At that time i found out that my friend Klabauermann was also playing over YPD on partypoker and that they also owe him money. Sascha told him that he can send him the 6k for tournaments in Vegas because he knows WPT guys so he wouldnt have to pay the tournament fee (600$)
Klabauterman send him the 6k flew to vegas but obv he wasn't registered to the tournaments. Sascha then told him that some guy from WPT poker took the money in his own pocket and even showed him fake emails. One year later Sascha admitted in a skype call that he took the money because he needed it.
He just said sorry nothing more as it was nothing big. He told Klabautermann that he will pay him back.
In summer 2015 i met an highstakes SNG player - he told me that YPD owes him about 14k from rakeback.( he might write something about it aswell).
At this time i figured out, that i will never get my aussie millions ticket. I would fly there and wouldn't be registered. So i talked to Sascha when i have about 47.5k rake and they offered me 8.8k rakeback in cash for the aussiemillionspackage.
If i agree to that, they would pay me 1000$ each month starting 1.1.2016. Ofcourse i didnt get one dollar from that, until now (as i said – i got 93 € this month but thats from the Iinvesmtentpromo 2014)
In march 2016 a lawyer from ypd contacted me and told me that they can pay 150-200$ a month. After 4 months writing emails with that lawyer( just got about 130$), the lawyer called me and told me that yourpokerdream is no longer on of his clients, because they had problems and he doesnt want them as clients anymore. (Probably they didnt pay, but i dont know that as a fact).

It is just a very very very short version how they operate. Every year he changes his name and says ypd has a new management and they will try everything they could that they pay the debts from the old management.( This happend probably 3-4 times in the past).

I could probably write a book about the whole story and the process – nevertheless it doesnt really matters. What matters is, that players should be really careful when it comes to this company.

Today i got 46€ to my neteller account. This whole thing lasts now over two years and I would accept 150 a month but even then it would last till 6-7 years including the debts from the rakeback.

They send me about 20 different payment plans over the past two years and believe me NOT ONE, really not a single one, worked out.

Even though I might be one of the lucky guys who still recieves some random payments (recieved apprx. 300 € this year – its not close to any of the payment plans – but i guess its better than nothing?!) – i just had to post my story to give you the whole picture. This happened to a lot of people and i think as a pokerplayer i have the responisbility to warn other „work collegues“. The business is tough enough – we dont need more obstacles as there already are.


Best regards.

Hello everybody,

normally forums are not in my interest, but in this case i should write something to the topic.
I am also a player from YPD and i also have some debts.
But in my case they working on it constantly.
1 Year ago i had 4,2k in open debts, now we are down to around 2k.
Sure, it was not a constantly every time on the date payment, but the money comes and thats the important point.
All actual bonuses are paid punctual. That is the point. Even there were some problems in the past at YPD,
they are working on it and the debts are reduced and not getting bigger.
So why should i play on a different site with a much worser deal ?
I know also 4 other players with also debts and they see it like me. If the actual bonuses are paid and the debts are reduced,
why to make trouble.
I am pretty sure they do what they can, and complaining and writing all is a scam make in my eyes no sence,
when i want my money back. Even if someone only get $100, at the end he have $100 and not $0.
Sure they made mistakes in some cases, but at the end only that i get my money counts nothing else.
Not that the manangement changes or changes not or whatever.

I am sorry for other players but in my case i am ok with it.

bladedb fake it. Or a man who colluded with the fraudsters. He claims that he knew about the theft of the money for 2 years, but remained silent. It is because of such people, and we have created a thread in the forum. I hope your owners pay you another $ 100 per month. Maybe you will deny that they stole money and made false table?

Seems that god not bless all with kindness and patient. I do not want to protect something else then my interests. but i only dont want that in my eyes a affiliate with good value are being bashed for which reason doesn't matter.
I was only giving you a view on my status and my feeling with it. thats it.
Thats also why i am not activ in any forum except of hand reviews, because my focus is always on my best interests, what is equal to how i get the most value out of a situation.
And that my friend, is not the way here some want to go. I can believe there are debts, that i know. But who tells me that you are not telling lies. Or anyone else ?
See, thats not really easy to investigate. And i can tell you a secret: Thats always the problem :-)
Anyway in my case again, there are debts, they working on it constantly and actual payouts are coming. Nothing to blame.

I am sure that no you're not a player, and a fake scam manager. Soon all the players learn about cheating and what will you do? if someone else plays, then he should know that from his money are payments to other players. you talk about a good offer, but it's a lie. all who have played them have been deceived by various amounts.

hey guys, ypd works very illegal. i only want to compose some letters to make all of you attentive, please never start a deal with this cheating guys. unfortunaley i made the mistake and send them money for a project that will never start. but this fantasy soccer project was from the beginning a big SCAM. every time they promised us different things to get back our money, but they used many lame excuses and never paid me money back. so guys please really NEVER NEVER trust them, make a deal or sent them money, these guys are only big big scammer and i hope they will get in more more and more trouble in future. its sadly enought that i know, that this people live with our money in mallorca.

greets

I had a deal with yourpokerdream 2 years ago.

They never paid me!!! I was writing them like 10-15 mails within 1 year afterwards I gave up.


I mean its just 700$ or sth like that, still they are ****in scammers!

Hi guys,

Dieterd6 already mentioned my name.
Yes, YPD the biggest scam I ever participated in.
The "Investment" promo, Tickets etc. were already mentioned and I can assure you, there is even more...
They owe me a huge chunk of money but even more important: time!
I have really believed that there is merrit in this affiliate business, even met with both of them about 3 times in their "HOME" in Mallorca and helped them change their business, get more deals with sites and so on...
The whole thing exploded in absurdity when the idea of an fantasy football site was born... This was just massive and at that point the shear size of the scam became obvious.
We have our sources and prove:
EVERYTHING is a scam.
The rake races, the players, everything.

This was a very sick realization for Dieter and especially myself because I kind of trusted these guys and until that point simply did not want to believe that a scam in this magnitude was possible.
And that is the worst part; they did not just scam me, but they used me to get other people scamed as well...
In the first months they randomly sent back money, still assuring nothing is a scam and everything is okay.
But after a while even those random transfers stopped.
I am still shocked and amazed how ****ed up these guys must be.
Now that it seems like they still keep scaming people I want to offer my support.

I don't care about the money anymore to be honest, I just want them to suffer like they never suffered before.

Sasha, Steve or now Chris: you WILL pay.

But what is for sure; Peter, you will be number 1.

Hi,

YPD paid me the december rate on time. 95 euro from their debts.

I will keep you up to date.

YPD also paid the January rate 94 euro from their debts.!

Have any of you considered attacking their revenue streams? Assuming you have documented proof, I'd say this would be a great idea. For example, I see that they are partnered with Black Chip Poker. Knowing the owners of BCP, I'm certain they would be quite upset if they found out that an affiliate was cheating players who were directed to their room, thus tarnishing their name in the process.

Black Chip Poker, owned by Winning Poker Network, happens to have a sponsored forum right here on 2+2. I would recommend going there and PM'ing the official representatives of WPN, and/or the CEO who also has a 2+2 account. **Don't expect a swift response, I think they are all abroad at an affiliate conference right now, but if you compose a well thought out and easy to follow PM on how this scam works, and then provide documentation, I'm sure you will get results.

Then, simply rinse and repeat at other sites they partner with.

--
Kahn

Hi everyone.
The boss of ypd has never changed! its just a trick! How is it going with your payout?

Hi! i created my account throu the link on their website on some pokersites and then i saw this thread. Does it matter if i created my accounts throu them?

Any news about them?

Is anybody playing under the yourpokerdream rakeback Programm and can say, they got their rakeback and it works??? They offered me a deal today, that seems not too extrem but nice to compensate the **** PVI Thing on GG. Anyone? Is it legit now???

I was wondering the same, they have good deals, but I'm concerned they won't honor it at the end

given their reputation I would not deal with them until everything is cleared out. there are plenty of affiliates and theres no reason to deal with one who has a bad record of paying their players.

Any update on if they're reliable for their GG offer?

Does seem too good to be true though