WPN BOTS , about 1/3 of the nl25 regs are THE SAME BOT - Page 5 - Internet Poker

after i made this topic , it got even worse , basically every single table there are 2 bots playing , and ofc collusion between then , one bot bets and the other raises to make we fold , and then they just fold , i can tell you that is so bot infested that there is almost no reg winning if they are playing high ammount of hands .

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12-07-2018 , 03:29 PM

#102

FelixFelicis90

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I know I've played with a few of those bots before, although I didn't know they were bots. I keep hearing all of this about bots all over ACR/WPN so I usually just stick to the freerolls. I don't think I want to deposit real money until some sort of security measures can be put in place for actual players.

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12-07-2018 , 03:56 PM

#103

nostalgic7

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Where can I buy these bots I suck at poker and now need bot help ..jk

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12-17-2018 , 09:21 AM

#104

MCAChiTown

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Who needs a good laugh?

https://professionalrakeback.com/beh...of-wpn-acr-bcp

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Phil Nagy argues that his team does a better job at fighting bots than anyone else in the industry but that he gets more flak on this topic than other rooms because some competitors take steps that make it tough for players to spot bots. Sites that use anonymized screen names could be infested with bots, but nobody can effectively track their play to pinpoint what's going on. The same applies to sites that let players change their screennames every so often: A bot could very easily escape notice for a few months until the account gets to pick a new name and basically restart with a blank slate, in the eyes of other players, as far as stats tracking is concerned.

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12-17-2018 , 09:38 AM

#105

DonWon

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Originally Posted by MCAChiTown

Who needs a good laugh?

https://professionalrakeback.com/beh...of-wpn-acr-bcp

LOL, funny how sites that allow mucked hands are booming, while sites that hide mucked hands are desperate and lowering deposit minimums.

Look at BetOnline, you can see hands in the hand re-player and their site is bigger than they have ever been. Proof that when players get what they want, your site grows.

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12-17-2018 , 11:15 AM

#106

Carl Trooper

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Originally Posted by DonWon

Yep. This is ultimately why I stopped playing there. Also thought Phil was a sneaky like **** and a cheat. Will not give them another cent.

Happily play on bovada (although I wish they would add bigger Gtds)

The day ACR shuts down will be a very happy day for me. WPN can burn in hell.

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12-18-2018 , 07:13 AM

#107

lefty2131

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Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 6

i have been on acr for about a month now. i would say 75% is bots. when you play hands with them, they never pay off a value bet. there have been some very weird hands. i almost think they are superusers. probably controlled by acr. that is why they do not let you see the hand history. on a called bet you should be able to see their hand but they don't allow it. if you deposit on here you are drawing dead i promise

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12-18-2018 , 11:44 AM

#108

shutdown

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Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 1,028

PLO bots are still playing 24/7 over a few accounts.
They're the exact same bot profile they have banned in the past when ChicagoJoey made his WPN youtube vids so they are absolutely aware.. especially since i've reported them atleast 3 times now and posted it throughout the forums, but nope they're still doing nothing about it.

#fightingbots

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12-18-2018 , 09:03 PM

#109

DonWon

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Man, they need to just ban all FREE VPN & Proxy connections with filters to get rid of most of the BS. If you want to VPN into ACR, you need to buy a dedicated VPN or not play. This alone should help get rid of a good amount of old bots and prevent new ones from popping up! You could easily find a list and plugin for this type of service and it works really good.

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12-19-2018 , 09:01 PM

#110

bakkesas13

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Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 14

Can the bots be programed to play MTTs? Or are they just in the Cash games? Just curious because I sometimes deposit to play the big GTD tourneys.

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12-20-2018 , 12:55 PM

#111

23thkr

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Originally Posted by bakkesas13

Can the bots be programed to play MTTs? Or are they just in the Cash games? Just curious because I sometimes deposit to play the big GTD tourneys.

I would assume bots would be MUCH better at MTTs since they are much easier than cash

The smaller the stacks the easier time a bot is going to have

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12-21-2018 , 12:23 AM

#112

GutPunch

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Serious question for anyone who plays cash games on WPN network - Why? Its been well known that there are many bots and the network does not care. Why even give them rake?

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12-21-2018 , 01:12 AM

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DonWon

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Originally Posted by GutPunch

Serious question for anyone who plays cash games on WPN network - Why? Its been well known that there are many bots and the network does not care. Why even give them rake?

Because you won't find bots in high stakes for long. Can pretty much guarantee no bots in $50/$100, most of them low stakes.

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12-21-2018 , 01:26 AM

#114

Numbnutlow

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Originally Posted by DonWon

Because you won't find bots in high stakes for long. Can pretty much guarantee no bots in $50/$100, most of them low stakes.

How did you get the inside scoop? Guess I will reopen my account and put 30 k on acr right away! **** acr

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12-21-2018 , 02:02 AM

#115

DonWon

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Originally Posted by Numbnutlow

How did you get the inside scoop? Guess I will reopen my account and put 30 k on acr right away! **** acr

Just my guess since I never hear them cry about it.

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12-21-2018 , 09:46 AM

#116

Carl Trooper

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Originally Posted by GutPunch

Serious question for anyone who plays cash games on WPN network - Why? Its been well known that there are many bots and the network does not care. Why even give them rake?

Well when you’re on the Phil NAGY payroll... playing for free and cheating players.. why not!

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12-21-2018 , 10:32 PM

#117

Alci

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Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,320

ACR and BCP are the only sites where I literally never have a winning session. Yeah I know "get better noob". Even scrubs should experience positive variance once in a blue moon, right? Never happen for me there. Every session just feels like you're getting absolutely cheated.

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12-22-2018 , 02:22 PM

#118

Chenoa1964

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Iam a very avg player skillwise. Maybe veryyyy slightly above avg,but not much. If i can beat wpn's 25nl, anyone with poker knowledge should be able to. Maybe 80,000+ hands is too small a sample, i dont know.

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12-23-2018 , 05:53 AM

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tgiggity

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Originally Posted by Chenoa1964

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if that sample is truly representative then you would have beat 100nl+ on any other site for the same WR or much more. congrats on eeking out a smill WR vs bots and eastern euros grinding rent.

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12-23-2018 , 09:24 AM

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DonWon

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Originally Posted by Chenoa1964

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450 hours to make $800 bucks! lol, have you tried jumping stakes? Just looking at your stats makes me want to yawn.

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12-23-2018 , 12:41 PM

#121

Chenoa1964

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Originally Posted by tgiggity

if that sample is truly representative then you would have beat 100nl+ on any other site for the same WR or much more. congrats on eeking out a smill WR vs bots and eastern euros grinding rent.

Lol def not grinding for rent. I'm a recreational player. That 450 hours is over 3 years. 150 hours a year or 40 minutes a day,however you want to look at it. Just wanted to show all bot cryers here that the game can still be beat even by a rec player like me. To me and my skill level a 4/bb winrate is pretty darn good. Blame the bots all you want, im sure they are there playing. But to blame the bots because someone cant beat 25nl is LOLLLLL.

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12-23-2018 , 12:49 PM

#122

Chenoa1964

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Originally Posted by DonWon

450 hours to make $800 bucks! lol, have you tried jumping stakes? Just looking at your stats makes me want to yawn.

I have dabbled a little in nl50 on wpn, but never felt comfortable with the more aggressive players. They run nits like me over.

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12-23-2018 , 01:09 PM

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MCAChiTown

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Originally Posted by Chenoa1964

Blame the bots all you want, im sure they are there playing. But to blame the bots because someone cant beat 25nl is LOLLLLL.

Having a positive winrate is definitely still doable in bot filled games. The issue is that they feast on weaker players and suck money out of the games. Every real player's winrate gets reduced when bots are around 24/7 to constantly stack the few new recs that do show up.

I echo what tgiggity said. Take the bots out and I bet you'd be at least 2 stakes higher by now.

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12-23-2018 , 01:23 PM

#124

Chenoa1964

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Originally Posted by MCAChiTown

I totally agree with your post. I probably could beat nl100 for a very small winrate,just not confident enough in my game even if there was no bots. I'm honestly not that good--i win because my fold button is not broken.Guess my point was that there are enough fish at nl25 to still make a profit. If someone is not beating nl25 over say 10k hands, then its most likely that they just dont have the skill set to do it. And there is nothing wrong with being a losing/rec player. But these posters blaming bots because they cant turn a profit at nl25 probably need to come to the realization that is themselves to blame.

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12-23-2018 , 02:05 PM

#125

DonWon

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Originally Posted by Chenoa1964

Pull out a couple bullets and take a shot. If it works, stay up, if not, go back and grind. To me, Poker isnt fun if I'm not going from 100NL to 6000NL in the same session.

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