Whether there are bots or not, I'm not gonna agree or disagree.

One thing I know and you can check it out yourself, a popular twitch streamer "All in pav" also a very good player has won approximately 70k in 2018 on ACR (according to Sharkscope) playing mid to high MTTs.

So if there are bots he's beating them. I know this thread is more about the cash games, so maybe if ACR is your only option maybe if it's possible for you, merge to MTTs rather than cash. Easier said than done, I understand, I don't like cash games and rather MTTs, so it's probably the same for cash players, they don't like MTTs and rather play cash.

My point of the post, with all the accusations of the WPN, bots, corruption etc, there is definitely one bloke who is beating them and beating them well. I've watched him run deep many times and also seen him win some tourneys with decent scores on ACR.

Your one guy example is dwarfed by the size and scope of the cheating. Millions have been drained from the poker economy from cheats. Me thinks you missed the point by a mile. Plus to save someone else from posting it...hi Ali in pav.

Pav plays higher stakes then these alleged bots. I don't see any of these Latvian/Eastern Euro guys playing $100+ games. These guys all play on the Pokerking skin. Does anyone know if Pokerking offer games over $100???

All I did is point out a fact, this guy is beating the games on WPN, and therefore it stands to reason that there are probably plenty of other legitimate players beating the games on this "cheating, bot infested, corrupt network"

And I might be wrong, but I don't think so, he's won more on ACR in 2018 than on Stars & Party, he's overall winnings was just shy of 150k for 2018. This is what he posted on his last twitch stream for 2018 so it's public info.

Tin foil hat, acr let’s certain players win , IE streamers to broadcast that it’s a fair company and everyone can an win.

Reality check, barely anyone wins on ACR and it’s a bot infested trash site.

Bro, you make everyone with a legit complaint look bad. The only site you ever stream is Bovada, its soft, and anonymous, which actually gives you a fighting chance. I'm starting to think you're just a fish that doesn't know how to play Poker. If you can't win on ACR, BetOnline, or Global Poker, you're a damn rigtard fish. Think about it, out of four USA sites, you're only winning on an anonymous one. Every single damn site has bots on them. IT'S YOU! Fix your game, IT SUCKS!

Bovada was a reputable brand back in the day on Bodog. I had success there as well. Never could win on ACR, never trusted them to begin with. With everything that’s come to light, it’s not crazy as to think why.

Maybe my game does suck, or maybe I’ve gotten it in as a favorite an overwhelming majority of the time and constantly lost more than I should have. Maybe I am just unlucky. Or maybe acr is legit corrupt.

I rarely play online anymore anyways, waiting for legalized and regulated poker like many others.

Tell you what, you want to play on my ACR skin... and win some MTTs to prove it’s legit? PM me. I’ll give you my account info , we can write up some sort of clause so you don’t have to worry about me stealing funds.

Prove me wrong.

Donskey here is the huge flaw in your posting that one guy won money. And heck I will even use Pokerstars with a better security department instead of bash WPN.

Search the Pokerstars PLO bot thread. Here are the facts bubba, 7 of the top 10 winners were bots at plo100. And 15 of the top 20 winners at plo500zoom were bots. So your post is foolish. It isn't about the 30% of top winners that were real people it is about the 70%+ of top winners that were bots that stole MILLIONS out of the poker economy.

"I know a guy that wins" posts are uneducated about the facts and scope of the problem.

How about you build your graph on Global, BetOnline, and Bovada before you come back and cry about one site you don't even play on anymore. I'm willing to lay money you couldn't even beat a home game with your buddies.

I had so many screenshots of sheer madness of ACR, I realized it is what it is.

So why not play on my account and crush?
Is Phil Nagy paying you to try to and do damage control for WPN?

Few more years WPN won’t be around, and regulated poker will be back and booming.

Will you be at the borgata in a few weeks don won? HMU if you are.

it's the same **** in the tournys esp like 6pm to 4am, a **** load of bots from eastern Europe, Latvia (mostly) and russia

How do you recognize tournament bots? I'm just asking out of curiosity.

I primarily play cash games these days and I've become very familiar with cash game bot tendencies in the last couple of years. It's easy for me to recognize them pretty quickly.

What are your methods for determining a tournament bot? Is it just statistical and bet sizing similarities after having large hand samples on them?

Tonight on my $33 3k 8max tourney the table starts off with 7 players, I am from Moore, Oklahoma and I noticed that all other 6 players were from Latvia, 5 of the 6 from Ogre, Latvia. I look up Ogre Latvia on google and it has a population of 26k people, I look up Moore, Oklahoma and it has 74k, if my table popped up and it had 6 players from Moore, Oklahoma on it I would know "somethings fish AF here" I noticed about 25 diff screen names from Ogre Latvia in the tournys tonight, about 20 of the 25 had locked stats on sharkscope, why is that? and they are ALL winning players that I could see, whats the odds of that? all the other screen names that were locked were players I see everyday and they do quite well, I personally think these are all bots, most players on WPN are losing players, but here is a small ass city with a bunch of winners, just looks shady AF, some of the screen names are 3Dboobs, ArocquetA, Bubine, PuQQilist, Filbuster, Warrioor, GallAagher, profit777, Wholebackjack, WoodenMan, Glaukoff, Chim3ra, Lawyer77, Apocalypsse, Corrvus, Dionyssus, all these players from Latvia and all doing really well, does anyone else find this fishy AF ? I couldn't find 2 losing players from Latvia on sharkscope.

#grindercity

What did support say when you asked them about this?

Lol

Probably

“Thank you for the concern, we handle integrity and security in very high regards! We will look into this!”

Then Raul takes the email and sends it to the trash, throws his gum into the the trash bin across Francisco’s desk, and they go out for lunch for 45 min. After they come in they have a daily meeting with Phil Nagy. Phil then tells his employees why they deserve the $8.60 an hour they make. Phil then gets in his 70,000 car and drives to his beach house in Costa Rica thinking about how he is a baller.

This is what is so frustrating about ACR. Great Post.

This was posted in the main thread for the network. What has been your experience recently FernandoCosta? Have you noticed any changes lately?

sorry for the delay , i was playing there till last month , there was the same ammount of bots at nl25~nl100 6 max , 2 per table , same thing , but now they are playing a bit looser , about 36/25 or something like this , but aways 2 per table , i will only comeback when they launch zoom , while the bots are not in there ofc , its actually impossible to beat this site right now , you can look every single reg , almost none of then are positive , like 2~5kk hands played down , you would think those guys after years playing the same stake would be winning right? , but its impossible to beat bots sadly .

No need to apologize. I appreciate the update. Thanks!

I think durashura and alveoli are also bots. They have the same bizarre betting patterns, 9.25% 3 betting, and will fold some of that range to a min 4 bet. I also notice they take almost exactly the same amount of time to act each turn.

https://ibb.co/Kq5v4cj
https://ibb.co/pZQyXrx

Their stats are a little different but I think that is because of differences in sample size and the more hands Alviola plays the closer they will become. What I find interesting is that Alviola started playing on 2/12/19 and immediately started putting in long sessions coinciding with a reduced volume for DuraShura starting February-2019. And they do not play the same tables but almost like clockwork Alviola signs off and DuraShura signs on. Of course could simply mean they live in different regions and their schedules just don't lineup. I do not have where the profiles originated from at the moment. The days they play or don't play also are similar but maybe there was a russian holiday or something??? I only included data from two different weeks but if you compare more of their sessions the trend is consistent. Another caveat is that this is data only for 10nl as i do not have data from the last few months at 25nl. Anyway, interpret the data how you will but these two profiles are some of the biggest winners at 10nl...

I played BotAlveoli heads up on 2 tables not to long ago. He was sitting there with 3 buy ins waiting for a challenger and I basically said "Let me see how a bot works." I haven't gone over the hands yet in detail but there were some odd tendencies that can probably be exploited. Collaboration anyone?

i made a thread here awhile back regarding 10nl bots https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...-bots-1696587/
nearly included DuraShura in there too but i didnt have enough of a sample to be too sure. the thread is fairly old, lasttime i had a look at the pool i noticed a fair few of the accounts still playing. you can check out a bunch of their stats throughout that thread

Lawyer77 I remember noting a very very bizarre style and exceptional results to go along with it.

i played v lawyer 2 days ago and shipped the mtt vs him, i'll be honest wasn't too impressed with his play. seems a ton of people are just minraising the sb, which you dont really ever see on stars or anywhere else. might be an indicator to see assistance, also interesting that the bots would choose that line and not the 2.5-4x strategy most people are using from sb