Hi. A little about me before I start. I have been playing poker more than 10 years and I notice that - I’m not just playing for fun, I live from the money earned by poker. I have nine dogs, one girl and one car ... maybe soon there will be two ... cars In general, I am a standard poker player ... maybe. Add my nicknames, under which I played in the room Winamax: "Mr.Evrythng", "GetOutAWay", "UCanTalkHot".

I want to tell you about the bots from the room that make the game. I want to warn that I can wrong about some nicknames, but most of them are bots from the room, a little later I will add a link with a YouTube account, with video materials of the data game of these bots. Often they are "minus" balance, which is not surprising, because this "minus" is virtual, it simply does not physically exist, since the bot does not make a real buy-in. These bots have several features:

1) They have a 100% hit on the board and in fact it is always one of the nuts for the board.

2) They very rarely win tournaments, since their main goal is to delay part of the guarantee, which is obviously overpriced in the room, since there are not so many players. And tournaments with low guarantees are of no interest to anyone, except the regulars.

3) "God Mode" is turned on until a certain point and after ITM it is turned off.

4) All these nicknames with Unicode in the spelling of the nickname. With the same Unicode on which most poker rooms are built. I’m sure that there are nicknames without Unicode, I just haven’t done enough analysis yet, because I spend a lot of time on the game itself and do not have enough free days to fully monitor the game for these bots and communicate with other accounts. But there are such prerequisites, so I have already noticed many times how these bots merge chips to other players (probably bots, in order to hide the fact that the same players are constantly in the ITM zone), along strange lines that do not correspond to their previous game and logical lines.

Next I provide a list of these bots:

alfo - alfoued68
tino畵 - tinou7575
Gougo噅0- Gougou56450
rab─0 - rabu25000
Tite3 - Titeuf0713
Le-Sqze - Le-Squeeeeze
ABarra㠀. - ABarrau3800.
Sefyoᢃ - Sefyou1883
loulo眖0- loulou77160
NinoЈ4 - Ninou04084
doudo厁0 - doudou53810
babalo䑠0 - babalou44600
rena툠 - renaud220
Paylㄇ - Paylu3107
Juj甀2 - Juju75002
cyssoᦁ8 - cyssou19818
bub椐0 - bubu69100
Zizo⢅ - Zizou2885
pato拾20 - patouf97320
Foufo⤐78 - Foufou291078
Lul〓 - Lulu3013
DoUdO؆ - DoUdOu0606
RRf퇐 - RRfud1d0
3betBlｲo - 3betBluff72o
Palaᦆ - Palau1986
bilo� - biloude53
jeancla� - jeanclaude88
Picso睰0 - Picsou77700
loulo憀51 - loulou618051
benichoᦅ - benichou1985
Yo� - Youde33
laliloᦇ - lalilou1987
dido⠆- didou2806
Do� - Doude64

It's just a part of a lot

I have another theory that this is a Chinese botnet, but there born some of new questions:
1) Why botnet use a minus players?
Answer: maybe they use them for money laundering, or minus players merge chips with positive ones in the later stages, for a more likely victory - top1

2) Could a botnet get an open room code, or in what other way influence the RNG?
Answer: it is possible, but I do not have such information, but I know that “Mersenne Twister” is the PRNG (Pseudo Random Number Generator) on which the Winamax game is built is not strong cryptography.

3) If this is a Chinese botnet, why should he change one of the players hooks in the opposite direction. The hooks in the hand history highlight the size of the player’s stack.[IMG][/IMG]
Answer: I have no answer.

Are you talking about external bot rings, or about the possibility of "house" bots (as you seem to imply in point 2)? Point 1 I also don't follow.
Do not want to dismiss possibility of bots on winamax outright but your points are very unclear.

BOTNET who use helper - it not need to discuss, it's reality of today poker.

I talk about "Homeplayer"...

Until the moment when they proved that cigarettes are harmful, no one believed that this was a real threat.

PokerStars did not pay taxes.

What need else?

Link on YouTube channel with video I add later, where thous player have a "god mode" HU pot or 3way pot or 4way, doesn't matter And alway have same action line, but I told about change line after ITM, and it's not look like recreation change the style after ITM. It's look like script

It's 21century. Century of money, greed and thirst for profit by any means.

As for me, I just a man who wanna play in honest poker with mindset and skills. But any room need rake and they wanna finish any tournament faster for new registration.

Also if this Chinese botnet, I send letter to Winamax support but they told me they don't understand what I mean

And why player "DoUdO؆ - DoUdOu0606" have hooks in the hand history turnaround in the wrong side.

I'm mot IT but I learn some programming languages and I remember when we did some task, we changed the hooks depending on what we want to get - negative or positive result.

Very little, if anything, of what you describe in your OP has anything to do with bots, your accusations are pretty far-reaching, and you've provided zero evidence.

This is pretty deep, in the whack job sense.

Winamax results are tracked on Sharkscope, are they not?

Can you show these players who cash every single tournament?

They not cash every single tournament.

I'm more interested in their strange unicode nicknames and why the player "DoUdOu0606" has parentheses/hooks in the opposite direction - it's a strange. Maybe some mistake in program code or maybe this is an intentional amendment. I don't know and I don’t want to blame Winamax without finding out everything but think they must find out everything and explain. But they don't wanna.Support answer after a few day - EVERYTHING IS FINE. Really? They need only few day to find everything about style game of this players. Sorry but I think they must to dismiss and go to work on government, because they have so good analytics mindset

If I ever go back to online poker I'm obviously using ?Zhao888¥€¿ as a username, it'll tilt one guy at least

You are typical mindset human - unfortunately you are the majority on the planet and you defeat logic and common sense.

Thank you consumer.

Wait, you've accused the site of running bots with god mode, but you're most interested in the nicknames?

A little late for that, after creating an OP accusing the site of running bots with god mode.

You don't understand what I mean?

OMG, just open your eyes. I told the nickname in the HAND HISTORY have changed nickname. LOOK SCREENSHOT. AND ONE PLAYER HAVE HOOKS TURNAROUND IN THE OTHER SIDE.

I feeling like I talk to blind people or a kids

I assume from your posts that English isn't your first language, which is fine - your English is far better than any second language is for me. But with that being the case, perhaps you should refrain from mocking other people's ability to understand you.

I haven't seen any mention in any of your previous posts about screen names changing, but now "why should he change one of the players hooks in the opposite direction" finally makes sense.

The only image you've posted is a small white box with "Your IP is blacklisted" in red letters:



But none of this addresses the fact that you've made much more serious allegations about house bots with god mode, and have provided no evidence. I think you mentioned you were going to post some, but have instead spent your time insulting people.

As I mentioned earlier, in a post that got no response from you:

The combined graph of these names mentioned looks like this. If these are bots I want them at every site!

The few players who were winning had a clearly higher average buyin than the losing players, so the chipdumping claim is unlikely too.

Most of those graphs look so sad that if anything, the RNG is rigged against them.

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Yes man, you are right but if it's real buy-in. Do you understand what I mean?

If the buyin is added to the prize pool then the buyin is real. It's very simple to figure out if this is the case, or not.

Not only are the brackets the wrong way around, but the zero in his stack is an entirely different font! So this leaves detective 64 to come to one of two possible conclusions:

1) IT'S A GLOBAL CONSPIRACY! Or
2) You're wasting everyone's time with bad photoshops

Yep, but try to think more deep... Look if GTD have 500euro and buy-in 10euro, sure not many player want to play this tournament - only regulars, I know coz I every time play tournament with not big GTD and almost all player in tournament have notes "Regular". But if we GTD 2000euro and buy-in 10euro, more player wanna play. Ok, if room don't wanna overlay any time what he must to do? Yes, 25% of player who registration must be "homeplayer" - it just example. They make a game, make spots where regulars and recreation players out and do re-entry. Room have rake, players happy coz play more GTD tour, but for real it's same tour with GTD 500euro, but regular and recreation ad 1500euro coz do entry and re-entry. Think it's easy mathematics.

P.S. and sorry for my Eng

Man really!!! You got me! Get out or be serious.

I'm play 24/7 and think I have a time for do ****!?

I told about list of player who have strange nicks in hand history

LOL - you are wright. I'm sorry. DON'T SEEN ZERO in his stack

Thanks for the new screenshot. But is this it? A single hand history that, leaving aside the photoshop possibility, could be nothing more than a glitch? You mentioned in your OP that you were going to provide some evidence, and not a word of it since then.

If a site isn't going to meet the guarantee, how does putting in losing house bots help them? They pay out the same prize pool either way. Not only that, but a tournament that's 75% full with an overlay is much more attractive to players than one that's filled up with house bots.

Hell, now I understand that I have gathered too little information. It was necessary to shoot on video, as I take this screenshot. It was necessary to record the game of these players for several months. In addition, I did stupid things and first of all I wrote a support.

I will analyze the game of these players in XM, but this is only a game against me. But I shot video how they play at other tables vs other players.

Yes, I said that I will provide a video game of these bots. This takes time, because you need to upload everything to YouTube. And this is not a primary task, you know, I’m just a person who lives and has needs. [IMG][/IMG]

I explained that everything is for the sake of rake. Let's be honest - it's just business and the players are indifferent to the rooms. It’s like in a mill - while the millstones are spinning, nobody will touch them and take care of their condition.

Bots are needed for more rake generation. Again about the mill - people have accelerated the process and now the mill is not needed. Here with the help of bots they accelerate the process of this mill, creating situations for re-entry

None of this answers my question.

If a site isn't going to meet the guarantee, how does putting in losing house bots help them? They pay out the same prize pool either way. Not only that, but a tournament that's 75% full with an overlay is much more attractive to players than one that's filled up with house bots.

That's right, they pay the same prize pool of 500 euros, and they receive rake from 2000 euros. I can not understand what is incomprehensible


The remaining 1,500 euros are made by real players or other professionals or amateurs, like you and I or anyone else

But in a tournament in which there will be only 100 real people, of which 20 to 50% will make re-entry, a guarantee of 2,000 euros is declared. Well, do you really think in the 21st century that free cheese is real and the rooms will just scatter money, a means of circulation which is also their profit

It's just example but if it really true, they must have more bot for value - need more counting. I don't know true situation but if for 2000GTD they must have 35-40% of bots, 5% have min ITM other just make a spots for re-entry