Ok serious questions;

Do Bots play MTT's?

How do you spot them?!

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Edit/MH: Conclusion of thread: Bots are used by William Hill in casino games, not in poker games.

http://williamhill-lang.custhelp.com...p?p_faqid=6719




Source (german): http://de.pokerstrategy.com/forum/th...90#post9954690 and http://de.pokerstrategy.com/forum/th...user=0&page=36

Maybe the bots' SNs, when/if used, will be "bot", as stated; not something like "bot771107", who looks like a normal player with a "clever" nickname?

What did Support say when you e-mailed them?

the first screenshot shows support admitting that this specific sn is an in-house bot

The Support confirmed that the player/SN "bot771107" is a official bot by William Hill!

The live support confirms that the player "bot771107" is a bot.

Translation of the red frame on the right:

Player: Is the player "bot771107" a bot?
Laura: Yes (he is); and he is also marked as one (a bot)

Really big scandal imo.

Agreed. My bad.

Missed that bit because a beer bottle was in front of my screen.

That's not good. A lot of players would think he was an ordinary player in a big tourney like that, dressed like that, and chatting and joking with other players.

These bots are also playing Cashgame!

HoldemManger NL50 FullRing of the bot "bot771107"





Furthermore there are lots of other bots (those are probably not official William Hill Bots, and not yet banned from playing on ipoker!!):

This pretty much sums up the current state of online poker imo.

Does this mean that the bot is playing over the entire Ipoker network or just the William Hill tables?

Guys we have threads like that almost every week. It has been confirmed that Ipoker do allow bots and from what we see here they create their own bots too. That's their shaddy policy and they dont plan to change it. I don't see the point cause there were at least dozen thread like that and yet there is no change and Ipoker even doesn't seem to care to respond to allegation.

William Hill is pathetic.

Wow, please tell me this isnt' a trend that will continue to other sites. So, the site can now deploy bots that have a fair shot at the prize pool? LOL

BTW, atleast they show you which ones are the bots now. iPoker has been a bot haven according to what I've found Online. There are commercially available bots(not going to provide the name and give them free advertisements) where I know a significant amount were actively 'botting' on iPoker.

I really hope no other sites follow suit. How are more people not concerned about this? The site now has a chance to win a portion of the prizepool on top of their guaranteed profit of Tournament Fee's and Rake!

Edit: This is the first I've heard of this, so if I'm missing something, please let me know. What has the poker communities reaction been to this?

If I played on an iPoker site, I would check this behaviour with the licenser. Then I would check the legality of this with the authorities in Gibraltar. I would want a refund of any money I lost to a bot. But before that I would cash out and play on an honest site.

Completely agree. It seems shady to me. iPoker has long been a bot haven from my understanding and limited research on the issue. This seems to confirm what a lot of people suspected, that iPoker turned their heads to the illegal bots for a long time. Now they are simply employing them on their own.

Would definitely be Cashing Out if I was playing on iPoker.

wow

I'm amazed at how little reaction from 2+2 this is getting.

Pretty awesome how William Hill is trying to spin their bot use, though, as if somehow having a bot taking up a seat is better than having an overlay.

How is this any different than regular casinos employing shills? Altho I kind of feel like if they were going to have in-house bots to get games going, they should at least have the courtesy of programming a break-even bot, rather than one that is crushing all the customers.

this is shocking. this should be x posted.

well, if the bots can make good conversation I can see how it's somewhat acceptable. srsly though, if they all play the same stats then they're not targetting any player in particular, so they can't be very good.

what about ev where you are knocked out by a bot

how the **** do sites openly get away with this. pretty sure wh and other sites are just guys sitting around lolling while counting piles of cash, prob smoking cubans

(I really hope this turns out to be a hoax)

So the rake's not good enough for them and they use bots to rake in even more? I don't care what they put in their T&Cs, this is rigging.

OLP is getting shadier by the hour - seemingly relentless examples of cheat, after scam, after theft, after scandal. Though I abhor the riggie argument, it's easy to understand how they arrive at the conclusion that every site must be bent.

It's really about time something was done to improve the integrity of the game before the tossers and their shills destroy the whole industry and take the game down with them.

omfg !

Ipoker-Support: " You are not allowed to be at the same table with your own bot as you have access to two hands and is a form of collusion"

xxx: "not at two tables i mean if i sit down and run my bot an look at it?"

Ipoker-Support " There should not be a problem with that"

WOW, I should tell my friend about this, he's about to join an ipoker skin. is this just skin or network wide?