The club you think is legal is not legal. Your site is in no way, shape or form legal, and it never will be legal.

You already had a mess of a thread about this. You plopped 5 hundo (your claim) into a site that will generate nothing because you were mad at paying rake to sites and grinding up the equivalent play money on dead rooms (before they died).

Either charge forward with this new room of yours for a while until you get bored and quit, or save time and accept the inevitable loss and move onto your next bad project idea. Honestly sticking with this probably saves you money in that regard.

All the best.

I mean yeh from the sounds of things this sounds about right.

I"d have to be just like everybody else who has an online site.. in somewhat risky territory frankly.

Btw it looks like going to get some kind of settlment most likely from full flush in the Curacuo courts.. they already told my lawyer they wanted to make a settlement so... time will tell.

I mean nobody is basically in legal territory it seems so its not like i'm the only one to be fair.

Geesh bro dont have to be so negative and nasty though.

Didn't you already have a thread closed for asking questions that you then went off on people for the answers and were clearly just trolling to try and get people to join your site?

Give it up "bro"

-BD

Unlike others, I do not think your site represents any risk, because it is unlikely to ever have a customer. Nobody will care, and you will move on from this loss to other losing ventures.

Yeah, this would be another example of a losing venture. Anything you sent to that "Player Protection" grifter is gone, and anything you are spending on "lawyers" who are giving you fake updates is also gone.

Kind of sad to see the very old routine of going after people who were swindled with a second con of "I will recover it for a fee" still works on some. Maybe they take payment in itunes gift cards.


Nah, many of the sites are regulated in many areas they serve, and the sites that are providing their product in an unlicensed manner tend to be smart enough to not live in that same area.

The "I am not the only one" defence was tried over and over by people selling stolen goods on the street when claiming that lots of people do it and murderers are worse. Unfortunately that defence never quite held up when it mattered.


I am not being mean. I think this latest venture of yours is a good idea for you, only because it will represent a slow loss of money to you for the time you invest, and that is a great improvement over pretty much all the other choices you make in that regard.

All the best.

Bitcoin is no where near as anonymous as you seem to think

yes u are right . i was researching this some yesterday

some things that can help seem to be are

1. MaKe a new wallet for each transaciton
2. Use a Vpn
and some other stuff also

To be legal, you can charge a set monthly fee, flat for all customers. At no point in time can they ever have anything of negotiated value in a game. There must be a proven and authentic RNG available for inspection and certification. You will have to comply with sweepstakes laws in every single market you make your game available. You will also need to provide a 100% of the prizes they can win, so you're basically doing freeroll with their monthly fee until you get sponsored awards or large cash balances.

Running a business that is not fully compliant with the law is usually not much of a problem until you get caught. The more successful you are, the greater the odds of getting caught.

As far as Full Flush, luls. Stop, please. First of all, they went out of business, kaput gone. If it was a legal deal, they are officially closed and the obligation to satisfy debt dies with the corporate entity. Second, if (snort) they swindled the money, they are not paying a half way pence toward restitution. That would be a criminal issue and good luck chasing after a scam domiciled in a non tax treaty nation. Fun fact, FF was the network that refused to produce the segregated account of player funds. One guess as to why, just one though.

Lastly, you said you're in Ohio. You're either AgirlinOh or entrusting their gibberish. Good looks /s

Interesting .. So A dewd seems to say its possible to set up a site in fashion that would be legal.

No rake taken from games.. with a monthly fee .. and setup sweepstakes prizes ..

It might be illegal though to take money from people for the idea of wagering.

So u really think Global is legal in usa? they take a rake

About full flush they already said they wanted to make a settlement with our lawyer ...

lol, OP is even dumber than I anticipated when I opened this thread. A+

Sure, ClubWPT is legal, replicate it you're good to go. The 'only' thing you need to worry about is complying with sweepstakes laws. Good luck with all that.

Global does charge anything that is legal tender. They have fugazy money, no value anyplace else except in their domain. You can't trade it, share it, transfer it, nada. The fact that it converts to the USD at a 1:1 ratio makes it seem like it has a real world value. They don't technically have to even honor it and can alter at will. Integrity prevents that obviously.

FF lol, sure. Wish you the best. What's the referee's name handling it? Law form? Filling docs and number? I know, you don't have any of it, but Game-Protect told you they agreed to self pierce the corporate veil to pay back his customers. Lololol Since you have not the slightest fraction of a clue how any of this works, there would be public announcement soliciting other creditors of the company and the restitution is then divided up among the claimants in order of priority. If they decide to pay a single player their money, they are legally liable to pay every player their money. It's called precedence. It is an admission of debt and you can then go to your local US attorney, sue and attach a lien to any of their personal assets in no sheltered countries. The term is 'guilt in absentia' established by the prior admission or acknowledgement. There isn't a single attorney in any place on the earth that would tell their client to pierce their own corporate veil. Sheer and utter stupidity to believe such a thing.

The more you mention FF and repayment, the fewer and fewer people will listen to anything you say.

Well thats why i have you bro.
I'm sure u can help me set it all up.

Just keep us posted when you pay for a new lawyer to sue the old lawyer who lied to you about getting Full Flush money.

All the best.

I didn't have to read very far to know that you're trying to start a business. With a business, almost any kind of business, it's never as simple as you think.

You can't be a one-man band here. There are a lot of things to consider, even if you're trying to make it a small site. My business (IRS Schedule C) is only playing poker and there are a lot of rules and laws that I have to follow.

SUPPORT: Are you going to have a support department, or will everyone on your site with a problem or question be calling your home phone or sending you E-mails to your personal account?

TECHNICAL: Do you know how to set up a site that works? Do you know how to write code? What if the software that you can easily get has a problem? Would you know what to do if your site crashes?

LEGAL: There is a lot to think about here. Who will be allowed to play on your site? Anyone in your city? Your state? Anywhere in the world? Do you have a pretty good understanding about what rules and laws will apply to your site? Do you know how to verify someone's location or residence?

THE POKER EXPERIENCE: Do you have an idea what games you want to offer? What the smallest and largest stakes will be? Which poker games or variants you want to offer? If you don't give people what they want, it won't work. If it's only going to be something like NLHE tournaments, will that bring in enough money to cover all of the categories listed above?

I could go on but I think you get the idea.

You talk about your "little site" and your "2 dollar game" but in an another post you say that "it might take off." You need to pick a lane and decide what it is that you're trying to do.

His last activity here was 2 months ago, and his history is playing on rooms that were dying for essentially fake money and then complaining when his inflated bankroll went away when the site everyone else knew was dying finally closed.

This latest venture probably followed that lane, and good chance we will not hear any updates about it, because it was another set money on fire venture.

"If you live by the poker, die by the poker, yeah"