I did, but it was last edited in March of last year. I don't have my finger on the pulse of online poker so if things have changed and there are things to avoid or better options have arrived, I don't want to be caught off guard.

Bobo, if OP's still accurate please change date to July '19, it would help us all!

Greetings Everyone,

Simple quick question: Any legit site(s) for U.S. players looking to play in tournaments consistently?

Are you wondering about sites that accept people located in Russia and people located in the USA or are you just wondering about any sites that do/don't accept people located in Russia? If it's the latter then you're looking for the thread linked below.
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https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...i-play-471768/


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There’s 16 mixed games (including 3 ofc, if that can be counted) running right now on Kingsclubpkr.com, most of which are full. There were 12 running last night at this time. Some of the variants in the mixes can only be played on this site. Stuff like 2-7 razz, dramaha, pot limit 2-7 td. Many of the other variants are of the more standard HORSE variety.

There is a LARGE contingent of live US mix players (or players coming over from traditional games, where they may not want to challenge players using legal (or illegal) 3rd party software, such as HUDs, solvers, etc was and other live assistance software.

Mixed games are usually the biggest games in the most prestigious live poker rooms. There’s no tanking in these limit games (like the glory days of lh). The games on kingsclubpkr are fairly soft, though the 30/60 limit mixes, some of which include 5/10 w 4 ante big bet variants, can be tough at times, as these are the biggest stakes.

Also, Eastern European IP addresses are blocked, unless one’s agent can contact an admin and get their player unblocked - on a case by case basis. Everybody has been paid. And good luck trying to find a bot for these games.

There should be caution depositing on any poker site. While some may see the presence of a central cashier on an unregulated site, run from a location outside of US jurisdiction - others may prefer to skip nameless, faceless support people, who often don’t grasp the players’ needs. And time is money for a poker player.

The good players are winning and the not so great players are losing. Online poker as it should be imo. Most unregulated sites spreading traditional games are probably safe enough to play at, but they will likely have many more game security issues than Kingsclub currently has. This is one of the main factors that has driven traffic here: people are fed up w constant game security issues on the NLHE-heavy US facing unregulated sites. Well that and the chance to play a wide spectrum of fun variants - from lhe, big O, and LO8, to the more exotic games available, like Archie.

I’d rarely doubt the veracity of any claim about more efforts being made at the networks on the islands to stop botting, or how tracking methods at a site like pokerscout might be inaccurate. But the evidence seems to suggest that “the truth is that mixed games simply are not popular online . . “ might require another look. If you tried em out for free, I think you’d like them

Um, sounds like a club, with agent. Again, prefer for myself, site handles deposits, withdrawals, as opposed to single party that may be using the funds to play themselves.

If I am wrong, describe how this site/club is different than invite agent.

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You're not wrong at all. Some would rather deal w a site w a central cashier and customer service that often doesn't know much. Some would rather deal w one of their friends or someone that they can speak to personally, on a daily basis, if need be.

My main point, if you re-read what I'd written, is that online mixed games are alive and well. I respect that some of you folks have been sent to this thread to put out a specific narrative re options for US players.

I'm a little more transparent and just wanted to correct a small amount of misinformation. Reputation is very important when it comes to the gambling business and how one treats their customers and their potential customers. I definitely agree with that.

WA player here, getting kicked off Global next week. Wondering if the info in OP is still accurate. I hear whispers that say restrictions may not be as listed.

Also, not sure if this is the place for this question, but as a long-term winning player with a low BR, I've been thinking about checking out stakes (used to use PTP for that back in the day, but have zero experience with 2+2 staking). I've set up a crypto exchange/wallet in preparation for switching funds/play over to a new site. Wondering if there is anything I should take into consideration when choosing a new site (low funds and new to crypto, so will prob only choose one to start) given an interest in possible future staking from this location, or if WA players are just SOL with that these days.

I should note that I'm currently a low BI SNG and MTT grinder. I feel like ACR would be my preferred site for MTTs and SNG volume with rakeback and what not, but also I've never used an HUD before, and it might be a while before I can get one, so nervous that player skill differential coming off of Global is going to be noticeable and impactful. (Although on the flip side, with Global not even allowing HH, I'm excited to finally get a glimpse into my play and tendencies through database analysis for the first time. I do work to improve my game as much as I can.) Also curious about softer, smaller sites that may still have enough traffic to let me continue BR building until I can move/diversify.

Thanks in advance for any input anyone may have.

So Global kicking us off, probably because subscription models have been deemed illegal in our state.

Right now I play on Ignition. I do not use HUD, unless on regular cash games. I have switched to Zone mostly, hud does not work there. I use PT4, which does not support tournament.

ACR is not an option in our state. Grand has no traffic. So the two top are Ignition and Chico. If not using HUD, best to start on Ignition. I will say the SNG's are soft here, plenty of action for MTTs, might need bigger bankroll for MTTs, not my fave. I would suggest saving some money up for PT4, since can download hand histories and study. Chico requires an active hud while playing to get hand histories, can be a pain from what I have heard, some may know better.

There, you have it from the horses mouth.

You can always play for pay at Muckleshoot.

Yeah, it was that whole thing with that stupid ***** who lost a couple grand buying virtual chips to play a virtual casino game, and then complained about it, and then some moron judge made a ruling that should basically apply to all video game microtransactions. What a time to be alive.

I'm unclear what you mean. Are you saying PT4 inherently doesn't support tournaments, or do you mean just on Ignition? If the former, do other trackers support tourney/SNG play? I don't play cash at all at this point but would still like to eventually get a good tracker if playing on a site that allows others to use them.

Are we sure about this? I have it from more than one source that they've been allowing it with crypto. Also some smaller site(s) that may be on the same network.

Definitely a priority but this is all very sudden and with limited funds I need to ensure continued play first. Might need to invest in a cheap laptop first because playing from my Linux machine is proving very difficult.

Yikes. I was leaning towards BetOnline at this point because they say it's the softest, but that's kind of weird. Does this apply to MTT/SNGs as well?

Naw. I'm a hermit and I hate live play. Haven't done it in years. Too used to wearing my heart on my sleeve at this point.

Alright man, will do. Thanks for the input.

Do you have to know people in person to get an invite to King's Club? Been interested in mixed games lately and would be interested in checking it out.

Yes, they use a club site model so if you find an agent, you can get an account made - which will enable you to see the lobby and open tables. To play, you can deposit and withdraw using most options.

Playing on credit can sometimes be an option and rakeback is also something you would work out w your rep.

The site is primarily for US players and they have enough action so as not to expend a lot of resources to court ROW players. Though Kingsclubpkr won’t deny access to all non-US players, the community prefers not to play with players from Eastern Europe, for various reasons. In the short term, this may cost them some rake, but I appreciate policies like this. Gl

I’m from WA state and I’ve been playing on ACR for about a month. I deposited via p2p transfer and haven’t tried to withdraw anything yet, but I know some ppl in state that have allegedly been wrecking on the site and cashing out just fine.

See the current T&C at https://www.americascardroom.eu/poke...d-conditions/:

"1.4 Citizens of Australia and Residents of the Commonwealth of Kentucky, State of Maryland, State of New Jersey, State of Delaware, State of Nevada or Washington State may not download and use the ACR Software for any purpose. No license is granted hereunder to any User located within any jurisdiction where such offer of a license by ACR or use by such person thereof shall violate any applicable laws."

Whether or not a few individuals decide to risk their BR by breaking the published T&C, and manage to play and cash out, is somewhat irrelevant. Even if a member of Support tells someone that it's ok to play, the company will almost definitely follow the published rules if/when it suits them. (Who could complain and how?)

And to Add, with all the problems, why would you want to, when the other two main sites are run much more smoothly?

This may also be possible near the Oregon or Idaho borders, because the isp tracking might put you in another state. When I tried to install the software (Seattle), it gave error and would not install. Not going to try and install via alternate methods.

whatismyipaddress.com will show you where your current IP address geo-locates to. However, even if one does geolocate on the border, to another state, keep in mind that one will still have to pass KYC and AML checks, i.e. provide documentation that they reside in the state where play is allowed.

I don't recommend trying to circumvent the rules. Most people fail at it and lose money in the process.

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I live in the Puget Sound region also. I’m not playing on the site for income and I’ve found the tournaments to be way too long for my (playing online) tastes.

What are the other two main sites?

I believe he would be referring to Bovada/Ignition and BetOnline/SportsBetting. None of those 4 sites on 2 separate networks currently prohibits players from the state of Washington from playing in their games.

Shhh, (she).

And I can concur. If you are semi retired, and want to expand your horizons after some run good, proven win rate, cash out for bills kinda pro, then move to Oregon, or California close to Nevada border (for special trips).

I'm really not the one to "certify" it as accurate, so I don't think that's a good idea. But I appreciate what you're going for here.

However, as good fortune would have it, a super awesome poster has sent a suggested rewrite of the OP. He asked me to have a look, and I certainly can (and will), but many of you out there know much more than I do now about US-facing sites, so I think it would be good to post it here and let everyone have a look and make any suggestions. I'm leaving the contributor's name off for now so as not to taint anyone's reading of this with thoughts of bias - not that I think this poster is in any way biased, but sometimes others have a different point of view. And it's fun to have a little mystery. Said poster will get full credit in the end.

What I'm primarily looking for is any errors or omissions. Suggestions for wording/formatting changes are fine as well (I already have some ideas in this regard), but content is my main concern.

Meh. Could do better.