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08-01-2018 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ForeValue
If a person lives in a WPN restricted state, can a PO box be set up in another state to register/play on a new account or is it restricted based on the IP address?
IP restrictions are not enforced.

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Kahn
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08-01-2018 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
IP restrictions are not enforced.

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Kahn
Thanks for the info Kahn. 👍🏼
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08-03-2018 , 09:15 PM
Iwe been paying 25nl on ignition but the 4 tables is putting me to sleep.

Is there anyone here who plays ignition and bol cash tables at the same time?

Im on a 15.6 inch laptop screen how do you arrange the real estate?

Tile the ignition four and stack the bol tables?

I used to use a software called stack tile or something which allowed me to use hot keys but im not sure if this works with bol or ignition and both?

Any advice/recommendations?
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08-03-2018 , 09:31 PM
Stack and tile has a thread here in the commercial software forum you could ask. Table tamer does work for both those sites, they have a thread also.
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08-04-2018 , 03:47 PM
Sorry mods if this is the wrong place feel free to move it. But is there any site with fast fold omaha that a usa player can play? I know bovada offers it but no one plays which i dont understand as they have a ton of PLo tables.
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08-05-2018 , 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Sirbustalotz
Sorry mods if this is the wrong place feel free to move it. But is there any site with fast fold omaha that a usa player can play? I know bovada offers it but no one plays which i dont understand as they have a ton of PLo tables.
They have the most action of any US site. Thus, no.

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Kahn
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08-05-2018 , 11:46 AM
After ignition, acr, and bol. Who is a close 4th?

Anyone have any experience playing on the state regulated sites such as 888?
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08-05-2018 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Thachef
After ignition, acr, and bol. Who is a close 4th?

Anyone have any experience playing on the state regulated sites such as 888?


There is a 4th place. However, there is no "close 4th".

Relative to 1st place things go something like this:

1st place = 100%
2nd place = 90%
3rd = 65%
4th = 15%
5th = < 10%
6th = < 5%
and worse and worse liquidity

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Kahn

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Originally Posted by Mike Haven
That only makes sense if you mean:

1st place = 35% (of the market)
2nd = 31.5%
3rd = 22.75%
4th = 5.25%
5th = < 3.5%
6th = < 1.75%

Is that correct?
No.

1st place relative to 1st place is 100% of its own traffic
2nd place relative to 1st place is 90% of 1st places's traffic
3rd placed relative to 1st place is blah blah blah

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Kahn

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Originally Posted by Mike Haven
Yes. That's what I said. Only in terms of the existing market, which makes sense. "Of its own market" is meaningless as a refernce point.

But no big deal if you think it means something.
You want to quantify everything based on it's percentage of the overall market.

I am quantifying things based on their traffic relative to the largest site.

It means something.

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Kahn

Last edited by Mike Haven; 08-06-2018 at 06:16 PM. Reason: 3 posts merged
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08-05-2018 , 06:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thachef
After ignition, acr, and bol. Who is a close 4th?

Anyone have any experience playing on the state regulated sites such as 888?
You seem to be missing Global Poker which is certainly near the top. After Bovada/Ignition, Global Poker, the WPN sites(ACR, Black Chip, True) and BetOnline/Sportsbetting it really drops off like Khan said. Merge(Carbon) would be next.

WSOP/888 and PokerStars NJ, which are regulated, are near the levels of Merge(Carbon). Party Poker NJ(Regulated), Intertops/Juicy Stakes, SWC, Nitrogen, Grand Poker, and Big Ugly make up the rest of the sites available to players in the US.

Check PokerScout. I'm not sure how reliable they are these days, but it seems like a good estimate at the very least. Global Poker is not tracked for whatever reason.

https://www.pokerscout.com

Last edited by MCAChiTown; 08-05-2018 at 06:22 PM.
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08-07-2018 , 11:55 PM
I live in Maryland and am having a really tough time finding a good online platform to play on. I play on Black chip and America's cardroom right now, but the past week has been terrible on there with server crashes and getting kicked in the middle of hands. Their customer service is trash too.

Anyone else live in MD and have a suggestion on where to play?
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08-08-2018 , 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by waldorfian85
I live in Maryland and am having a really tough time finding a good online platform to play on. I play on Black chip and America's cardroom right now, but the past week has been terrible on there with server crashes and getting kicked in the middle of hands. Their customer service is trash too.

Anyone else live in MD and have a suggestion on where to play?
The next largest place for you to play at is the Chico Poker Network. Sites that would be accessible to you are BetOnline and SportsBetting. Read up on the network first IMHO.

It's not a bad place to play. Far less in MTT guarantees than what you are used too, and about 30% less cash games. Still, it's the next best choice.

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Kahn
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08-08-2018 , 04:20 PM
The beginning of this thread says that Washington State is restricted from playing on Americas Cardroom. I can and have been playing freerolls and low stakes games for months now and I live in Washington State. I asked their live help and they say that I should have 'no problem' playing on their web site from where I live. I did cash out for $65 BTC in may.

What then does it mean that two plus two says ACR is restricted for me?
Am I somehow at a disadvantage in their games because I choose to connect from a restricted state?

I know it was stated back in march that two plus two removed their ads from this site because of 'game security concerns'.

What are they operating a selective flogging stall for people who connect from restricted areas?

If a two plus two mod responds and says "yep, ACR still has game security concerns" I'll have to regard that and no longer give ACR my attention.
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08-08-2018 , 05:30 PM
This was discussed in itt several months ago about folks playing from restricted states and cashing out w/o incident as you have. Kahn gave an explanation that made sense to me as to why folks are able to play from restricted states. You may just want to just enjoy your good fortune. You can search the thread for that discussion if you have further questions. I, also along with others play from a restricted state. And the others have/are cashing out w/o incident.
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08-08-2018 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Joshua Herrick
What then does it mean that two plus two says ACR is restricted for me?
2+2 isn't saying anything about ACR. The information in the OP of this thread comes from posters. The last time any information on WPN was updated, that was believed to be correct. If it isn't now, and there is more evidence of that than one player's experience, it might be time to update the OP.

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Originally Posted by Joshua Herrick
Am I somehow at a disadvantage in their games because I choose to connect from a restricted state?
I can't see how you would be.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joshua Herrick
I know it was stated back in march that two plus two removed their ads from this site because of 'game security concerns'.
No, it wasn't. Here's what was stated:

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Two Plus Two Interactive LLC is a corporation which is required to make a profit. If this was not the case this website would cease to exist and much of the stuff that goes on here would no longer be available to those of you who come to this website. In addition, we have kept www.twoplustwo.com non-subscription based and have relied on our advertisers to carry the load. However, we also are concerned with the well-being of poker and because of that have not allowed some potential advertisers to run their ads here even though they would have gladly paid our rates.

And this brings us to Winning Poker Network which runs America’s Cardroom. I don’t have this information immediately available, but I believe they’ve been with us as an advertiser for about fifteen years. In addition, they have become the home for many of our participants to play poker and as far as I know, there has never been a problem with things like timely cash outs and poor customer service. Nonetheless, according to many posters on our site, some problems have developed on Winning Poker Network and we in Two Plus Two management agree that they need to be addressed.

So, to this end, on Saturday February 24, we sent their CEO Phil Nagy an email letter where we addressed four issues: late tournament registration (which we now understand has been addressed), bots, possible super users, and other possible collusion. We also made some suggestions as to how some of these issues could be addressed.

As of the time of this writing, March 1, 2018, we have not heard back from them and have decided to take the following action. Two Plus Two Interactive LLC will not accept any more advertising from Winning Poker Network and their sub-forum will be closed. Of course, this can all change if we do get a positive response from Winning Poker Network and they still want to advertise with us.

Again, I want to state that over the years, we’ve had a great relationship with Winning Poker Network and are grateful for the support that they have always given us. Hopefully, solutions to all the issues will soon be made available and the reason for this Publisher’s Note will be no more.
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Originally Posted by Joshua Herrick
If a two plus two mod responds and says "yep, ACR still has game security concerns" I'll have to regard that and no longer give ACR my attention.
Why? You shouldn't hold a mod's opinion in any higher or lower esteem than anyone else's just because they're a mod. I'd suggest taking any opinion you read into account, and probably give more weight to opinions from those who seem to be speaking from some experience or authority. In some cases that might be moderators, but often it won't be.
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08-08-2018 , 07:53 PM
I suppose I should thank you Bobo Fett. If you do not think anyone is at a disadvantage while on the WPN server then I will treat your statement as the one I should regard. That was exactly my concern.

So thank you.
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08-09-2018 , 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Joshua Herrick
I suppose I should thank you Bobo Fett. If you do not think anyone is at a disadvantage while on the WPN server then I will treat your statement as the one I should regard. That was exactly my concern.
I'm not sure what you mean by disadvantage, but to be clear, I'm making no judgement either way on whether WPN is a good place to play or not.

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Originally Posted by Joshua Herrick
So thank you.
You're welcome. Good luck.
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08-10-2018 , 06:15 PM
Is Merge currently accepting all players from NY State?

Don't know if it's available in NY State but I just visited Carbon's site and you literally cannot sign up and create an account. Nowhere on the main page and nowhere through the client.

Last edited by MoneyAndWomen; 08-10-2018 at 06:22 PM.
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08-10-2018 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
The next largest place for you to play at is the Chico Poker Network. Sites that would be accessible to you are BetOnline and SportsBetting. Read up on the network first IMHO.

It's not a bad place to play. Far less in MTT guarantees than what you are used too, and about 30% less cash games. Still, it's the next best choice.

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Kahn
I just gave the sites a look for the first time in a couple of months and BetOnline is looking good. They've just made some new changes/additions and definitely: WPN and BetOnline are the two best choices for US players if you don't want to play on Ignition's model. I play on all the US facing sites but prefer the software on WPN and BO to Ignition by far.
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08-10-2018 , 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MoneyAndWomen
Is Merge currently accepting all players from NY State?

Don't know if it's available in NY State but I just visited Carbon's site and you literally cannot sign up and create an account. Nowhere on the main page and nowhere through the client.
New York State is restricted by zip code. However, new sign ups are not currently being accepted.
Hi,

I am sorry for the inconvenience, we are not accepting new sign ups however, you will be able to keep using your account (143) with no issues.

We are sorry for any inconvenience caused.If you have any questions, do not hesitate to contact us.


Kathy Andrews
Customer Support


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08-10-2018 , 09:54 PM
I see. I was just checking because more options are better, of course.
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08-11-2018 , 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by legionrainfall
It's clear every one of these sites are sketchy as bone, and should be treated as fun only. Anyone treating this money as real is a bit of a rube, it seems. They are clearly making it very difficult to remove your cash
Just joined ACR for $25 just to play around for fun at .01/.02

1) I never got any 100% matching bonus reflected in my account.
2) Min. withdrawal is $50.

So, I went in knowing full well this $25 is a "service fee" for entertainment
and I will never see a dime of that money again.

I suggest you take the appropriate attitude towards poker as a hobby
and live a better life and not think poker is a career.
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08-12-2018 , 07:58 PM
I was reading the first page again and noticed that I had never tried out Grand. Does anyone have any experience with this network? I guess 5dimes is the best skin?
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08-12-2018 , 09:10 PM
They have very little traffic from my understanding. #60 on PokerScout.

https://www.pokerscout.com/
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08-13-2018 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MoneyAndWomen
I was reading the first page again and noticed that I had never tried out Grand. Does anyone have any experience with this network? I guess 5dimes is the best skin?
They have the lowest rake in the market. They also have the highest rakeback on top of it. However, they are the poster child for proving that recreational players give zero ****s about low rake and high rakeback because they have very few games running.

Still, if you like small card rooms with soft games, it's a decent spot to pick up a table. And I've known people with tiny bankrolls play on Grand to grind it up in their micro tournies and cash games who did well enough. Problem is they all move on to greener pastures after a while.

I have also heard of high dollar winning Euro players being booted from the network. That was a long time ago, but I suspect it's still possible.

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Kahn

Last edited by Mike Haven; 08-13-2018 at 03:57 PM.
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08-13-2018 , 02:46 PM
I am fed up of the issues on WPN and looking to move either here or to Ignition. I assume this one is going to be better for MTT's/SNGs? I play some cash but primarily do those.
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