Anyone from the US can play in ACR.

How you deposit money is the problem. None of your debit/credit cards are going to work. The "Vanilla Visa" gift cards you get at CVS or wherever tended to work last time I deposited money in there, but even then it was a crapshoot.

I can't remember if it was ACR or Bovada or both, but the most reliable way of depositing money was through Moneygram. ACR is taking bitcoin now. There are bitcoin ATMs all over LA.

False. Credit and debit cards work ~ 50-65% of the time depending on a host of different factors.

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Kahn

Well howdy there 2+2!

I honest-to-God simply cannot believe it, but damn... according to the website, I last visited the forums about 5-1/2 years ago. That blows my mind haha, I would have guessed maybe a couple of years, but not 5+. Reckon my sense of timing is SUPER out of whack lol...

But anyway, I just had a question or two about online these days...

1) When I was last playing, ACR was pretty much the best option for US players doing SNGs and Tourneys. Is this still accurate?
2) Maybe I overlooked it, but I didn't see the old "Marketplace" forums for 2+2. Are they gone now?

Thanks ya'll!

Just got money into ACR again and it was a royal pain in the ass.

You no longer have the option of attempting any Visa/Mastercard credit or debit card at all.

You have the option of either Western Union/Moneygram/RIA or doing it through bitcoin.

I don't trust any of the bitcoin exchanges out there except the MyCelium wallet app, available on Android or iOS. They partnered with Simplex to process credit and debit card payments. The transaction fee is staggering, but that payment processor hasn't gotten blacklisted yet. At least, not from the bank I'm using. After uploading a scan of my CA ID, the bitcoins were released into my wallet. Whole process was less than 20 minutes. And from MyCelium, I took a picture of the bitcoin wallet address barcode from my phone and chose priority send which was only $.50 more than standard, and it got there in less than 10 minutes.

Yay!

Visa and Mastercard has been completely taken off for deposit, not necessarily for withdrawal, it says it works with prepaid cards but I don't know how that works, I always requested a check.

1) America's Cardroom, aka Winning Poker Network, is still one of the premium spots in the US market. Its main competitor for tournaments and SNGs is Pai Wang Luo Network, aka Ignition Poker, Bovada, Bodog, Bodog88. PWL network ultimately has more cash games, but in MTTs and SNGs, the tip of the hat goes to WPN.

2) Which marketplace are you looking for?
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/102/staking/
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...l-marketplace/

No, YOU only have those options. Others have different options. YOU might also want to contact support and see if the missing options can be enabled for you specifically.

Also, WPN now accepts nearly 70 different crypto currencies, not just Bitcoin.

Credit card processors come and go frequently. What isn't available right now will likely be available next week, tomorrow, later this evening.

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Kahn

Is WSOP the only site that works in vegas? Will my ignition account work in vegas if it was opened in another state? Also how is the traffic on WSOP for mid-low stakes no limit holdem cash games?

Good looking out

Global works fine. Wsop traffic is way down lately. I think it's cuz of Global tbh.

I'm moving to Nevada later this week and plan on getting back into online play. What are my options for sites, and where do most play? Thanks in advance.

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wsop and acr are it... oh and betonline, but i dont know anyone that plays on there. when wsop merges with NJ, i cant see why you would play anywhere else tho.

global is the king of american poker for the foreseeable future

Is global a new site?

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/252/global-poker/

anyone have any idea what will happen to PA players once PA sites get up and regulated in regards to playing on ignition?

im betting same as NV. they see ur IP;s coming from PA u will be banned.

Yup. You've probably seen their ads on facebook

pai wwang Luo network? did ignition get bought out by someone? The people that owned it before used to cancel my checks after they cashed bank told me the checks were reversed of my bank account. Ignition/ bovada would lie and say they bounced which was not true. I quit playing their since but been awhile.

Yes, the PaiWangLuo investment group took over Bodog Poker Network at the beginning of 2017.

Explain.

The Bodog Poker Network's assets were bought out by Pai Wang Luo. PWL is a Hong Kong based corporation.

The people who owned Ignition before did not cancel your checks and reverse them out of your bank account. The check processor did the cancelling (or some government entity). Your bank did the reversal of funds.

Ignition/Bovada was not telling lies when they said the checks bounced, as that is exactly what happened. Just because your bank credits you with funds does not mean that a check has cleared international settlements - a process which can take weeks thanks to the inefficient global banking system.

This sort of thing happens, though infrequently (< 1% of the time with checks issued by offshore companies). In the event that your check did bounce, Ignition/Bovada/any other online poker site serving US players will issue you a new check and refund you for any banking fees you incurred for the processing of the bad check.

Global takes PayPal. Some people think this is the next revolution in online poker in the US. It isn't. Many businesses have attempted to circumvent laws utilizing the "sweepstakes loophole" and many have ended up in Federal court.

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Kahn

Apparently, Global's board, lawyers, and PayPal's lawyers, have found the "sweepstakes loophole" legitimate.

Global blows.

As did the lawyers at dozens of other "sweepstakes gambling" ventures. And they are all out of business. The fact of the matter is that they are offering real money gambling and attempting to disguise it as something else. They are doing this within the borders of the United States. The Feds are going to wake up to this sooner or later. I expect that the pressure will come from the DGE, Nevada Gaming Commission, or some other similar government body from a regulated state who doesn't want the competition.

This doesn't preclude players from making money on the site in the mean time. Again, online poker is not an illegal activity for citizens to engage in (in the vast majority of US jurisdictions). If the **** goes down though, it will be another scenario of Government seizure and players waiting years to acquire seized funds via a registration process similar to what we have already seen in Neteller, Full Tilt, Cereus, etc.

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Kahn

^^ Good points all. But, reading about those who put Global together, makes me believe they're on much more solid ground than those who came before them. Their financials are public, I believe. They invite the scrutiny. Not the position of an unsure venture.

Hey guys, Im pretty new here, and mainly a lurker.

Im sure this has been discussed, but Im hoping one of you can provide me with some info. Do I have any other online play options besides WSOP? Im tired of the 6 handed play with the same folks every day, poor customer service, and poor tournament schedule? Im hoping I have somewhere else I can play from home that consists of more than the same 20 players every day.

Lastly, Im looking for a site where I don't need to use bitcoin for deposit and withdraw?

Thanks in advance!