Where is the most PLO action for US players?

bovada has lots, but you can play a maximum of 4 tables there. merge has a lot also, without that restriction, and wpn (acr/bcp) has a fair bit too

I will translate this for you all:

i don't know what I am talking about, but I think you can play PS and FTP on a tablet in the US. I downloaded FTP on my tablet, but i haven't started playing yet. i want to multi-account that site, i think that is OK. I downloaded it in hopes that it would have true multi-table tournaments which is something WSOP doesn't have.

I am still confused as to where the best places I can play for real money are or the best places to play?

Carbon Poker, Bovada, Americas Cardroom, Black Chipv etc....
I would prefer the place I sign up at have plenty of free rolls though to help me get started and be able to play without depositing at first.

I just cross-posted this in the Merge cashout thread, but I think this thread might be more appropriate.

I'm a U.S. playing who hasn't played much online since everything hit the fan a few years back. Anyway, I'm looking at depositing a small amount on either Carbon or Bovada. Bovada seems to have great cashout, but Carbon seems to still have an occasional horror story or two, so I'm heavily leaning towards Bovada even if the game selection isn't as great.

Do I have the right impression of everything/am I missing something?

Every US site is subject to the occasional "horror story" as the 3rd party processors they use bounce around between companies. Most of the "horror stories" however are due to user error (holding checks too long, telling nosy bank tellers that they are online poker checks, etc).

Typically the worst that happens is the checks go off for collections and aren't available for a few weeks. Worst case tends to be the check bounces (happpens about 1% at all offshore US sites) in which case the poker site will issue a new check.

Bovada is a larger card room that Merge FYI, they hide their full games from the lobby to protect players however. Both sites are very soft. Neither offer rakeback or any real VIP program (Bovada has one, max return is 4%). Carbon has poker related promos, Bovada isn't running any currently, or soon given what I understand.

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Kahn

If you are going to play mtt's, Bovada for sure. Simply because the structures at merge are so bad, and you can literally play for hours and have nothing to show for it. Bovada mtt's require the basic knowledge and skill set that made poker so popular and profitable before black friday.

If you are going for cash ring games, I would lean towards merge there. Poker politics aside, and for all the negative changes over the last year or two, you will still get a better experience on merges cash game tables. We don't have many great choices, or even good choices really. The more you play, the more time you invest, the less enjoyable it becomes at merge,

Wrong.

The main problem with Bovada is that you don't know your opponents. Personally I always use HUD and notes. May be I am also missing something and there is a possibility to use poker software at Bovada?

Holdem Indicator = only legal HUD and it only works on a per session basis.

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Kahn

does any of these sites accept netspend prepaid cards?

Bovada, WPN. Mine did not work on Carbon but it supposedly usually works there.

does any of these sites offer bankwire for cashouts?

Interestingly enough, BetOnline has more traffic than Merge the past few days.

At the current hour, cash game players:

BetOnline - 517
Merge - 486

I just thought I would post that because it seems to be becoming a bit of a trend and I've seen others on here lately mentioning how BetOnline's traffic is growing.

Does Merge have fast-fold NLH yet? Stakes?

No.

I'm thinking about making a deposit on full flush poker and sportsbetting ag...the withdrawal limits on juicy are too low. Is this a wise investment?? im in maryland so not many options.

As you said, you don't have much of a choice.

that's interesting, lets see what the numbers are like in DEC/JAN

I started playing online poker on bet online nearly 4 years ago. It had nowhere near as much traffic as it does now. They've always had good cash game action, they have good tournaments but offered infrequently.

3 years ago you'd see the number of players online would be ~ 2000. Now I see the numbers reaching the 4k mark. Considering they're friendly with every state, this is pretty awesome. They also pay out very quickly despite some posts you might come across online.

This is decent news I guess, and reading posts about how crappy WPN is reassuring

I beg to differ. The numbers say that Merge is 30% larger on average and 50% larger on peak for cash games. For tournaments Merge is clearly an order of magnitude larger. They've got quite a ways to go before they supplant Merge for #2 according to the rolling 7 day average and peak traffic measurements. That said, they are showing great growth as of late.



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Kahn

The point is that they continue to close the gap with Merge. This trend began mid summer. BetOnline's population is growing faster and they're getting a lot of good reviews in this very thread.

I did kind of foresee this though because again, all of those players who can't play on Merge or Bovada had to go somewhere. I thought it would be WPN but ...it's just not. It's BetOnline.

I don't know what you differ with. The post of mine that you're quoting is accurate. When I posted that, Chico had more cash game players than Merge. There's nothing to disagree with.

edit: Uh, those numbers don't show 30% and 50% at all. Redo your math. And I just reread the thread a few pages. Aren't you the affiliate multiple posters keep questioning because you promote Merge so heavily? If you're just going to get into this with me too, please spare us the time. I have no wish to argue with you like several others have on this forum recently.

BetOnline is growing faster than Merge this fall and their growth is impressive. That's it. There's no debate.

525 (Merge's 7 day traffic average) divided by 400 (Chico's 7 day traffic average) equals out to a 31.25% larger player pool for Merge.

1129 (Merge's peak traffic) divided by 755 (Chico's peak traffic) equals out to a 49.5% larger player peak in Merge's favor.


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Kahn

Moving along, does anyone know anything about sportsbetting.ag? I've heard that this is on it's own network, I've heard that it's part of Merge but open to all US players, etc. Can anyone clarify which network this is really on? I know it's open to all US players like BetOnline is but I'm not sure if it's independent or a part of another network. It's being advertised a lot on some other sites lately though so I'm left to wonder.