Sweden lol really?

Hi Travbana,

We are preparing a licence application which will be submitted to the Swedish Gambling Authority in due course. However, until we are granted the relevant licence, we will not be able to offer real money poker to residents of Sweden.

We will make an announcement when we have an update.

I really don't like that you either have to risk 300, 400bb+ stack w/ 7732ss when big splash pot happens or leave the table and try to rejoin. It's inconvenient but it also doesn't seem right. But that's what I'm going to do and prolly some other players too. I just don't have like 200 buy-ins bankroll to stand that extra variance.

This is a great implementation!
NL500 second most (!) frequented tables atm

Would love to see this for all available stakes occasionally.
What a great action starter


P.S.: What are the countries with the most created accounts so far and what tend to be peak hours during beta phase of RIOP?

How about to lower the rake or to increase the amount/number of splash pots since this poker site is in beta? I really think that the amount of rake taken by RIO poker should not be equal to the time when the site is without major bugs.

and fish who don't use br management and like to take shots just wont play here altogether


so dumb

IMO, In big splashes everyone should get some $ guaranteed and some extra $ for winner of hand.

I'd love it even more, if when a big splash happens, the entire table is flipping for that amount. But w/o actually having to risk their stack in order to get it!

There's the combination of potentially winning big + no-one loses in that hand, which is pretty sweet!

like this site a lot

really like the fact the site is a bit splashy compared to all the nitty cashgames these days

and it's good the nits are supposed to go all in and actually gamble if they want to win too, find the splash pots so much fun as they are and the fact you have to gamble your own money makes it more exciting, maybe because they say a close loss feels more exicting than winning

think the software is really cool and apart from the little bugs think it is already a lot better than sites like unibet/partypoker

also don't feel ripped off as you do from most other sites these days so it's nice to have an owner doing it for the love of the game rather than the profit

one problem it seems it is just me having is that my tables keep crashing after about 10 mins, sometimes more often, one table works okayish and i was wondering if there is anything I can do to stop this, maybe it is just my internet or the laptop is struggling with rio for some reason, not sure if anything can be done about this ?

Not sure i'm 100% sold on the idea of STP...

Although technically RIOP is offering up 51% RB to players overall by way of STP, players will get varying amounts depending on how many STP's they both see and more importantly win. Some players will no doubt get very little back in comparison to others and it seems to me that, REG's have an advantage over REC's in this regard.

I also see STP as encouraging players to gamble 'no matter what' in order to win, especially for pots of significant value. Not sure how good this is for rec players trying out the site, especially if they lose a chunk of there BR in the process of chasing a STP.

I'd personally prefer to see something along the lines of, everyone who's in the hand wins a portion of the STP when it's dealt at there table. At least that way players have a far better chance of both, being involved in a STP and also more importantly, getting something back in terms of RB.

You say this because you are not a poker player but a gambler! Which is fine of course. You can call cash games nitty but perhaps it's your perspective only, were you expect roulette or black jack type action. poker is not a gambling game, it's a game of skill, sure there's a lot of luck involved but it's skill nonetheless.

You are crying about that there's not enough gamble, in a game that is already maxed out with luck, compared to other skill games like chess for example.

Don't get me wrong I like the out of the box thinking by Phil and team but STP needs tinkering imo. I can get on board with doing these pots with NL, simply because it is nittier than plo and a lot more solved. But the added variance with plo, makes this crazy especially when players are going allin for 5bb extra. You already need 2-3 times more buyins at plo vs NL but with the added variance you might need 5 times or more. It's not right at the moment imo.

Been playing for a couple of days and loving it so far. Obviously there are things that will be improved over time but all things considered it's a really well put together piece of software.

Hey Phil, loving the site so far. Thank you for giving rec fish like me a safe haven to play this game I love.

Couple things for me, first off I love splash the pot. It loosened up the game ( albeit a bit too much at times lol) but it brings money on the table and that is great.

I have experienced the much discussed sit in bug, but I have not crashed the software even a single time ( this on a Mac)

My biggest issue however is how sensitive bet slider is with my Magic Mouse. If I even hover my finger over it the bet slider reacts. Thus has caused me to overbet many times.

Loving the site though. Looking forward to the future with added game formats variants etc.

Yeah, the idea of splash pots looked nice first. But if you take very players perspective (from crusher to whale) this kind of rakeback is pretty bad.

Regs will exploit it. And even the standard ABC players may get exploited by that. As I already wrote, the "51% rakeback for all players" is misleading.

I know the big splah pots have the only purpose to attract players, but they kind of ruin the fun maybe. It´s lottery. In Spin&Gos (probably the idea came from them), you still actually play the big multipliers. In Splash Pots, you´d just shove and gamble.

No it's not.

Majority of players absolutely love it. It's literally the best idea in on line poker in ages.

Also, what's this focus on big splashes? They are extremely rare and have no impact one way or the other.

For the record, I can see how this might be different in PLO, I'm talking specifically about NL.

How do you know this that majority of the players love it? Imo 2+2 and rios discord it seems to be more like 50/50 love it and dislike it. And the focus on the big splashes is that the big splashes are the issue. You need to pretty much allways take the flip no matter how deep you are and it creates more variance for everybody. Splash is a good idea but it could be tweaked a bit for sure.

just got my account closed for mistyping my pw too often, contacted support and it got reopened within minutes

+1 for service speed

I've been playing on RIO since its' launch and have not seen a splash bigger than 15bb.

That's why I don't feel like concern over the big splashes is warranted.

It's not like you face that high variance spot every session, day or even week in my case.

Therefore I don't see how is it a big deal?

And the frequent small splashes for sure spice up the game in a fun way IMO.

I look at the same forums/chat and get an impression that players are more like 75/25 in favour of STP. Every streamer I watched loves them. Not to mention that a lot of those posters against admittedly haven't even played on RIO and their concerns hypothetical.

So we can agree to disagree. How do you know that they haven't played rio? You asked them?

Even if they haven't found a solution, is there any improvement on the board+hole cards not showing up or being black boxes instead?

Would happily contribute to try getting the bigger games to run as you release more stakes to support the site, but atm completely unplayable

I have already sent logs

Re-read and understand. I don´t think a player who thinks is getting 51% rakeback but is mostly screwed by his inability to adjust to the splash pots will be happy about this form. That´s why I said from everybody´s perspective. And I don´t think it is the majority. 60-50 pro splash at best. And most of those who contribute here and on discord are also profiting from this. I believe the bad players do not even care to go here or to discord. So, if every player understood the mechanism behind it, I am pretty sure, the majority would dislike it.

Since the splash pots, if I am not mistaken, come up after big(ger) pots (the bigger the previous pot[s] the higher the splash), makes it also pretty bad for loose players, since loose players give tight players more chances for rakeback. Loose --> more hands, more big pots, more rake ---> tight --> fewer hands, fewer big pots, less rake = equal amount of splash pots.


Of course the big splashes are rare, but they do have an impact.

Is that right?!

So, you have inside knowledge of personal information and a list of 2+2 / RIOP discord usernames, along with there corresponding RIOP playing names do you?!

I mean how else would you be able to make such a statement in this thread without that information?

Yes, the service is definitely best atm. And the money you lost cause of bugs is given back too.

I played the 1st few days and they were allin for 3-5bb at plo10! I mean I welcome STP and the added variance is ok with me but 3-5bb and people stacking off with any 4, while I have premiums, that's a joke, that's too much variance. So get fooked on your RB and they fook you when you actually have premiums in those spots too. Hahaha, its better to just have normal rakeback imo, at least they aren't going to be stacking off for no reason.

While everybody saying that grinders will get back more RB this way, that might no be true if you constantly contesting these pots multiway. In plo it is going to be a lot harder to win, especially multi-way. I am not just talking about big splashes, they are going bananas with small splashes too.

that's a weird and rare issue. did you try to run the software as administrator? or reinstalling it? (maybe in a totally new directory)