Hey guys,

i looked around and it seems to be missing a thread dedicated to this operator, if i am wrong please mods, delete this thread.

If i´m right, i guess there are still plenty of users here that can benefit from sharing experiences and ideas.

leggo!

Good stuff D33P

Thanks mate, what do you think of the MTT offer?

Can it be improved?

i once checked out the rake structure at .fr and its one of the worst ive ever seen, so i decided not to open accounts there, although these markets certainly are interesting for us .eu players. too bad...

I think it can always be improved. I have no idea if the number of new players has increased or not. However, I returned to play and noticed that in the micros there were tournaments that improved the guaranteed one a week ago.

Besides rake and all the things we know, one of the things that i really don't like is the flat payout structure. It really sucks when your min cash doesn't even cover your buy in amount.

What are the chances of Italy joining this market in the next 1 to 2 years?

It seems Salvini party is well on his way to win the european elections. So this government is here to stay. Granted it's always a coalition in Italy it seems, and it probably wouldn't be that much different if it was more left leaning in terms of online gaming/gambling policy. It's not a priority for any government but it would be nice for the market liquidity if they joined.

unfortunately, i dont see it coming in the next 1-2 years...

Only players from the countries mentioned above? lol
I see guys from all over the world playing PS.fr; most of them from the former Eastern bloc.

Yes, they can play from pokerstars.fres, Lots of brazillians too, especially in mtt's. Not many in cash games since with higher rake it's not that atractive for most players. It's unfair competition and one more proof that stars doesn't care about recreational players, only for their bottom line.

In a ideal world italians would join the pool and rest of the world would be barred from playing, unless of course players from our countries can also play on the international sites.

I'm forcing a problem with the cashgame tables in the .es version of Stars right now.

I have 6 regular tables open and try to open another one with click on "Play now".

Nothing happens.

I can see the "Searching" thing diplayed for a second but it just disappears and no new table is going to open.

Is it a problem on my end or does Stars.es has a maximum for cashgames now?

What poker rooms apart from pokerstars offers shared liquidity between France, Spain and Portugal?

Yes, I think it's 6 tables max on PStars

It is hard to say. I have the Winamax software and one can download it using the fr and es site and I have an account there but they don't show the countries like party doesn't. I have the Party.es software but I don't think I am allowed to play there. Party has decent action and Winamax has more action but a higher rake and they seem to be the slowest players on the planet and that is super annoying.

Stars.es has all 3 countries plus the free world and as Italy is not a part of the EU, you (or you are from Hungary) need them. Just learn to build the zoom tables instead of the regular tables as they have a higher rake and are slower. Also, order the fish to move to Party from Winamax and Stars as Party (soon) rate to have no HUD and there should be a decent rakeback (I don't know, the international has, plus some affiliate extra in cases).

If Italy opts to join the EU some year, they will do smart to join the Mediterranean pool, as it has increased the incomes of these other countries. The international players also bring in rake-tax money and more to the sites than they would by playing the international pool.

There are not too many international players at .es and the best players would be there only if higher games would run (400 and up like was the case at Stars.fr in the past when they were segregated) or there would be more action and the rake would be lower.

You are far more likely to find the best players at Party international and at the higher limits at Stars or wherever there is enough action at those limits. WPN and Winamax suck those players in.

The MTTs pools getting major grinders primarily from top players? It probably sucks in more ordinary players expanding their Stars.eu/.com play like that. Having more action is good.

I think the Italian mid limits (100 or 200+) are far tougher than the Mediterranean ones and at international sites, the best players play higher.

The Portugues players are not even banned at some sites international where the other Mediterranean countries are banned. And not sure if it is illegal in Spain for the players, or in France. It is illegal in Italy but they can play at some sites like Tigergaming (doesn't show the countries but the terms tell what countries not allowed and it is possible they let the old accounts to play even if the country is not allowed) and the old accounts possibly even in WPN as I have seen some from the Mediterranean countries even when they are officially banned there. The WPN has mainly the USA players, being a bit similar to the Mediterranean pool but they have more international players.

There are also the Asian, Chinese (mainly mid limit and up), agent sites. And some more.

today again stars laggy af.

unable to register, 3 breaks in 30 minutes and then they skiped one break.

this happens a lot more than expected...

so, aurora ia mandatory now?

anyone can post what are approximate rake bb/100 on any meaningful sample on .es pokerstars version (relative to 6-7-8bb/100 of .com rake depening on vpip u play and fr vs 6max)?

i understand correctly that small stakes HU and 3-4 handed rake there is beyond beatable w/o massive whales right?

so major crash last night, software laggy and an awful overall experience.

hope this is only a beta and things will be fixed in short-term future.

With .es you can still opt out from aurora.

Aurora is a giant bug overall. What are they trying to accomplish by enforcing this?

- Text size is awful, really small and hurts the eyes after a short period;
- It's incredibly slow and laggy;
- Action is harder to follow, especially for those using simple tables themes;

I hope this is just some kind of experiment from a twisted mind. The last thing that PokerStars still had better than the competition was the software and they just ruined it with this. 888 software became very good all of a sudden...

Basically people will have to buy new and good computers to play with aurora! Nice one pokerstars

humm, tell me! an average pc or older pc's won't run smooth with aurora and trackers and bla bla bla.
do you play in pokerstars.frespt?

No they don't.

I do with an average from the market pc. Tried with four auroras and no issues at all.

The chests were already a joke but this step means literally 0% rakeback for players not living in Spain on Pokerstars.es.

Pretty sick...

Doesn't this clash with some type of EU law ?
I doubt its allowed to sell products at different price points based on residence.

Imo they allready have different promotions in different countries based on the regulation rules. Has nothing to do with eu laws. They are just trying to push away the regs and make it just for people from spain like it was suppoused to be.