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04-01-2017 , 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by NoSkill20
1.Sit 4 tables to improve, don't go over 6.
2.If you can't beat 2 and 4 nl you sure can't beat higher
3. Rake at MPN is lowish or at the very least average (in comparison of course)
4.Regs have huge leaks especially at these limits
5.If you sit less tables you will always have time to find atleast 1 fish. You're probably sitting down vs regs and you stop looking for tables. Why sit regs if you're not going to exploit them and you're just going to cooler each other?
6.Anonymous tables have more fish and usually easy to spot (no auto-reload for example)

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Thanks for your input, ill try to play 4 tables today and see how it goes.
Are you saying that if i sit at a table with all regs i should get up and leave?
and is identifying a single fish at a table enough for me to stay on the table or should i look for tables with multiple fish?
Lastly, since we are targetting the fish, should i purposely expand my range vs him or continue to play normal. I mean, when im playing a lot of table, I often start letting go of the suited connectors etc. Should I do that? Or should I play those like proper poker?

Basically what Im trying to say is playing those suited connectors etc seem to be a -ev move vs the regs on the tabel. Every time I start playing proper poker at the micros I always get in trouble with the regs because as I am often one of them I know they are always on average getting into the pot with a better hand. So, I dont know I get confused with him to exploit the fish on the table without compromising myself vs the regs, because if im playing 4 tables, I do start end up playing hands like 78s etc.

One more question, I used to play mtts and stts etc before with some success, but this time around I am focused on cash games only.

Is that the right way to go with MPN or should I look to focus on something else to build my bank roll?

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04-01-2017 , 02:12 PM
If you rely on your hud much don't recommend it. Mpn changed the hh format http://www.mpn.poker/blog/closing-a-few-loopholes/
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04-01-2017 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by devmandarkk
Thanks for your input, ill try to play 4 tables today and see how it goes.
Are you saying that if i sit at a table with all regs i should get up and leave?
and is identifying a single fish at a table enough for me to stay on the table or should i look for tables with multiple fish?
Lastly, since we are targetting the fish, should i purposely expand my range vs him or continue to play normal. I mean, when im playing a lot of table, I often start letting go of the suited connectors etc. Should I do that? Or should I play those like proper poker?

Basically what Im trying to say is playing those suited connectors etc seem to be a -ev move vs the regs on the tabel. Every time I start playing proper poker at the micros I always get in trouble with the regs because as I am often one of them I know they are always on average getting into the pot with a better hand. So, I dont know I get confused with him to exploit the fish on the table without compromising myself vs the regs, because if im playing 4 tables, I do start end up playing hands like 78s etc.
First of all, disclaimer that I play Omaha. I am not the best source for Hold'em advice and not familiar with the player pool at your limit.

That being out of the way it seems like you don't have a very concrete game plan. My suggestion is that you work out some general strategy before you get in the grind so you don't get lost in questions like you have about suited connectors. The best FREE advice I would recommend is Doug Polk's YouTube videos. I have personally learned quite a bit and think they can help you get some very good ideas about how to approach the game correctly.
About table selection:
Quit tables with just regs, no point for the reasons I stated.
It's very important that you have position on the fish so value it! If you are directly to the left of a fish you're better off than if there are 2 mediocre fish that are to your direct left. Obviously the answer is always "it depends " but I'm giving you general ideas not step by step print money plan.
Concerning game type: pick the one you like the most and if you like something equally do the research whether it will be more worth it to invest time and resources towards improving your game there. Are the games stable, will you find action moving up, how small is the edge when you get to a meaningful stake etc. Right now this is a big deal as poker is getting tougher you really have to know where you stand to build your bankroll. A while ago it was ok to play abc and win enough, now it's not.

The question about suited connectors was specific so I will address it but I stand my point that you should create a game plan and try to answer those questions in whatever way makes the most sense. Just don't leave them unanswered because you will never develop as a player then. Suited connectors play very well and HU will do okay, in position they will do even better. Take advantage of what your opponent's range is and look for holes (does his value bet make sense, does he have what he says he does in his street by street range, can I make him fold his overpair on a board that favours me heavily etc.)

Hope this helps and if there's anything else feel free to ask.

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04-01-2017 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Esa_Perse
If you rely on your hud much don't recommend it. Mpn changed the hh format http://www.mpn.poker/blog/closing-a-few-loopholes/
What do you mean?

It says: These changes will now be rolled out from 11-13 April.

Also there's nothing about changing hh format. Simply hands where you don't contribute to the pot won't be saved on hard drive anymore.
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04-01-2017 , 05:18 PM
Wont be saved means you dont get any decent stats and samples from other players. And soon there will be converters just like party has. And my bad thought they allready rolled that out.
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04-03-2017 , 02:33 AM
Sorry if it's been asked before, but what's the best way to convert a HH to send to a friend on Microgaming using PT4? Usually I use www.handconverter.com but it doesn't seem to work for Microgaming... Thanks

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Originally Posted by Yazzx
Sorry if it's been asked before, but what's the best way to convert a HH to send to a friend on Microgaming using PT4? Usually I use www.handconverter.com but it doesn't seem to work for Microgaming... Thanks
Nevermind... weaktight.com works fine

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04-04-2017 , 11:57 AM
Is it possible to make tables bigger and cards bigger?
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04-04-2017 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mirage01
I was just going my rake attributed stats in pt4 and comparing them with poker stars and the results are basically the same about 6.5bb/100 at 10nl/20nl /25nl. I was expecting it to much lower on MPN considering the lower rake it has. Does pt4 read this correctly or is it bugged? Cheers.
Did you ever find the answer to this I was considering moving to MPN from stars.
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04-04-2017 , 01:49 PM
effective rake is still smaller on microgaming because you can easily get 30% rb with FDB that clears at additional ~20% rate (probably less, but still...) and it's all about effective rake
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04-05-2017 , 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by lpoulter1
Did you ever find the answer to this I was considering moving to MPN from stars.
Bear in mind that they are going to remove the hands history soon.
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04-05-2017 , 09:34 AM
No, they aren't. Hands where you don't contribute to the pot won't be saved anymore which means you can still have enough of hand histories only by swapping them with few other regs.

It seems like they harm casuals and small time regulars because determined high-volume regs are going to be the only one who will have enough of hand histories and will benefit from that change.
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04-05-2017 , 01:18 PM
Yes they are. If you can get them by swapping or buying from hh providers doesn't mean they are not removing them. Site is just going to the same route as party where you have to use 3rd party tools to survive.
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04-11-2017 , 01:44 PM
How do you find games after 24hBet and Stan James exodus from MPN? To me it almost seems like 90% of casuals came from these rooms because games gotten so much worse.
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04-11-2017 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Greg20
How do you find games after 24hBet and Stan James exodus from MPN? To me it almost seems like 90% of cas::uals came from these rooms because games gotten so much worse.
Is SJ part of Unibet network now?
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04-11-2017 , 03:30 PM
Actually I'm not sure about Stan James. Read about it in hurry but now I think they're still on MPN. My bad.
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04-11-2017 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Greg20
Actually I'm not sure about Stan James. Read about it in hurry but now I think they're still on MPN. My bad.
Yeah just logged in and they are still in MPN.
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04-12-2017 , 11:41 AM
http://www.mpn.poker/blog/closing-a-few-loopholes/

"We will not save hand histories for Anonymous Tables at all. These tables are intended to be a tracking software free zone, and we will take active measures to stop the use of HUDs and tracking software at Anonymous Tables, should any software provider attempt to bypass the restriction."

So this mean that we can't even track our own winrate, or check which hand our opponent had if we missed it in that one second where they show his hand?
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04-12-2017 , 02:49 PM
Hi.
Has anyone been able to actually beat the games higher than small stakes without a HUD for any significantly long period of time?

And how will the handhistory selling sites get the hand histories if nobody saves them?

MPN reg for a long time, cannot believe they want to ruin the best poker network online for fishes' sake.
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04-12-2017 , 02:53 PM
I play tons of anon tables, they are no longer logged in HM2
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04-12-2017 , 03:05 PM
And don't forget that it comes even harder to detect bots. There are allready a poopload of bots and more to come for sure. Feelsbadman.
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04-12-2017 , 03:27 PM
Why did people spend years developing HM2 and PT4? So that one day poker operators could just block their usage. I so hope they would reverse that decision.
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04-12-2017 , 09:15 PM
HM2 is not picking up any hands in which I don't contribute to the pot. All tables, not just anonymous. Anyone else?
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04-12-2017 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by matter17
HM2 is not picking up any hands in which I don't contribute to the pot. All tables, not just anonymous. Anyone else?
I posted a link to the article where it's explained, this is one of the changes.
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04-12-2017 , 10:23 PM
Thanks mate. I thought it was only anon tables, Cheers, Matter
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04-13-2017 , 05:02 AM
Let's BLOCK ANON TABLES. I advise any regular playing Microgaming now to just never start anonymous tables at all and try to have all the action at the regular ones. This will be a conscious decision for the common good. It's the least we can do. Let them die out like their Blaze Poker tab.
If you start anon tables, you're a masochist.
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