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They don't want the sites to go broke? But anyway this sucks because one of the biggest reasons anyone would grind there is the rb. Funny thing is that stanjames just dropped me a 500$ bonus all I need to do is just log in.

I got that $500 bonus too. Exactly the biggest reason to grind there has now been taken away, all sites offer 30% so there's no incentive to carry on grinding there.

In fact some sites do still offer an added rake race. Not so sure it has anything to do with the sites going broke but more that they want to make a quick buck.
Those rake races have been going strong for several years.

It is only recent that players started to rake more, ie last year 3k rake would net you $300, last race 3k rake nets you $150. Seems to me they were making money on those races, now lets see if players start moving elsewhere.

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12-01-2016 , 12:07 PM

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coon74

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Originally Posted by SuperMario7

Not so sure it has anything to do with the sites going broke but more that they want to make a quick buck.

Alex Scott once confessed that 'almost every' MPN operator was for banning leaderboards on the entire network. Perhaps the reason why races awarding cash prizes were still allowed was that some big operators like the Betsson group were blocking the vote on the network board.

As you've noticed, rake chases are still possible, but they now award seats in an auto-all-in (flip) freeroll (with the stack size depending on the rake) instead of a cash prize, so those who rake less get a bigger return % (a bigger expected share of the prize pool relatively to their rake) because the freeroll is not winner-take-all.

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12-01-2016 , 07:47 PM

#379

SuperMario7

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Originally Posted by coon74

That's exactly why I think it has nothing to do with them going broke, they are still offering 20k in prizes. It does really make me wonder why they have decided to go down this route (flip for money = gamble, no skill involved)

I guess it's not exactly a money grab either!

Also even if you rake less compared to top rakers it is not a win win for you. You could in fact end up with less money this way.

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12-02-2016 , 05:12 AM

#380

rodgethat

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Originally Posted by SuperMario7

Micro Gaming have just decided to ban all rake races across all rake back affiliates, even the poker rooms themselves aren't allowed to host a (private) rake race. What the hell are they thinking here?

They were steadily building up a nice player base and now this happens. This will hurt most everyone in the region of 5-25% a month.

I guess now that they have built up a player pool the greed sets in, did they not take notice what happened to Ipoker network and all the players that left?

Thanks for posting, Was just about to deposit to grind a rake race so saved me the hassle

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12-02-2016 , 05:48 AM

#381

KossuKukkula

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Originally Posted by SuperMario7

Trying to get rid of heavy grinders (aka bots)? Just noticed these promos myself and wont be grinding there in the future. No reason to pay massive ammounts of rake ja cross my fingers I'll get some extra back. Races and chases were good mainly because it was easy to estimate monthly returns and go 24/7 grind if needed.

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12-02-2016 , 04:57 PM

#382

coon74

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Originally Posted by KossuKukkula

No reason to pay massive ammounts of rake ja cross my fingers I'll get some extra back. Races and chases were good mainly because it was easy to estimate monthly returns and go 24/7 grind if needed.

The variance of affiliate promo winnings is usually lower than the variance of poker itself, except for nanostake grinders.

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12-03-2016 , 11:11 PM

#383

GTBMuckface

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cashed out, see ya MPN

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12-04-2016 , 09:00 AM

#384

farreli80

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Originally Posted by GTBMuckface

cashed out, see ya MPN

Why?

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12-04-2016 , 09:26 AM

#385

KossuKukkula

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Originally Posted by farreli80

Why?

Wild guess no more reloads and races so you get 10-20% less rb.

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12-04-2016 , 09:29 AM

#386

Greg20

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20%+, I think.

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12-04-2016 , 11:13 AM

#387

DayToEnd

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Well I have still €100 reload as every month.

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12-04-2016 , 06:41 PM

#388

coinflipper

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microgaming tournaments **** the bed for anyone else? blinds going up but not moving on all my tables

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12-04-2016 , 06:48 PM

#389

Wilco666

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Originally Posted by coinflipper

microgaming tournaments **** the bed for anyone else? blinds going up but not moving on all my tables

Yes, a tournament froze for me, as well.

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12-05-2016 , 01:28 PM

#390

Riandais

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Originally Posted by coinflipper

microgaming tournaments **** the bed for anyone else? blinds going up but not moving on all my tables

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12-05-2016 , 01:59 PM

#391

Ivan Miwa

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Originally Posted by DayToEnd

Well I have still €100 reload as every month.

Which skin?

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12-05-2016 , 04:57 PM

#392

theonepunter

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Redkings is the skin with 100 euro monthly bonus if you rake a certain amount.

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12-07-2016 , 09:09 AM

#393

nikinblinds

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Anyone tried out the grosvenor cash race?

The betsson €100,000 GTD tourney looks like a cracker also given the seats they are giving away. Really pleased with the direction MPN are taking, games are still beatable by a decent clip.

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12-08-2016 , 01:32 PM

#394

GTBMuckface

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Originally Posted by nikinblinds

lol

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12-08-2016 , 10:36 PM

#395

theonepunter

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Grosvenor & 32RED have profit races on there sites. Probably why there allowed by the network the run races like this as its not based on rake.

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12-08-2016 , 11:47 PM

#396

theonepunter

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Originally Posted by theonepunter

Grosvenor & 32RED have profit races on there sites. Probably why there allowed by the network the run races like this as its not based on rake.

Grosvenor only offering 20% RB. 32Red has 30% RB with profit races for all game types (MTT, Cash, SNG)

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12-11-2016 , 05:17 PM

#397

polezipoker

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Pokerloco is missing some keys hans,I win a big pot at table Chamayra, NL10, of today 11 december, probably time 12:49, I have TT (AlfaCELL) in UTG and Button alexing had AA, a pot of 300 big blinds, and some hands from last days. Someday realized these errors with hand history? On the replay of pokerloco don't show too.

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12-15-2016 , 08:44 PM

#398

MegaDisgruntled

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Originally Posted by MegaDisgruntled

We have been dealing with Poker Loco for many years, but it's very disturbing that I have to report Poker Loco is NOT safe now. They owe us large commissions for Oct/November with no reply via email or skype.

I'd cash out now if you can.

Update: Loco made all back payments and I hope going forward will be more forthcoming, going for weeks without an email or skype answer is not the way to keep players.

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12-15-2016 , 09:26 PM

#399

coinflipper

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pokerloco has always been dodgy, its not a recent development. not sure why anyone chooses to risk it on that skin when their are more reputable ones on the network