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12-27-2013 , 01:34 PM
Poker stars vs IPoker VIP?

Tried working this out but its too complicated for me, just wondering if a player that could earn 1 million points at PS as a Supernova Elite, would they earn more playing at IPoker if they got the same volume of games?

PS Supernova Elite would earn 105k while 955k points at IPoker earns 14k but IPoker points are earned much easier than PS.

I done a forum and Google search but no threads on this

anyone know the answer to this?
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12-27-2013 , 02:06 PM
if you're grinder then you can easily have 50% from Ipoker VIP CLUB.

Add rake races (public and from affiliate)
promotions etc and in longrun you can get even 90%+. I know personally some players (sng grinders), who wouldn't play with rb <100%.
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12-27-2013 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by play4
if you're grinder then you can easily have 50% from Ipoker VIP CLUB.

Add rake races (public and from affiliate)
promotions etc and in longrun you can get even 90%+. I know personally some players (sng grinders), who wouldn't play with rb <100%.
So IPoker seems better vs PS, so why does everyone play on PS then?

Also English is not my first language sry but are you saying they wouldn't play unless they get 100 rakeback?

how are they getting 100%?
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12-27-2013 , 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by no hablo lngles
So IPoker seems better vs PS, so why does everyone play on PS then?

Also English is not my first language sry but are you saying they wouldn't play unless they get 100 rakeback?

how are they getting 100%?
it's hard to say in one word which one is better. Pokerstars has better software, more players etc.

Many players choose to play in other networks, becaouse of higher rakeback. You must also remember that rake is less on Pokerstars.

To get 100%+ you have to win rake races. Sometimes it;s not so hard, especially when poker room made a mistake and put too much money in the prize pool
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12-27-2013 , 02:27 PM
what are rake races? are they those weekly comps like Grand Battle Weekly leaderboard race?
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12-27-2013 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by coon74
What kind of updates do you need? Official statements are found on skins' web pages, e.g. http://poker.williamhill.com/help/ipoker-updates/
Well I was hoping there'd be clarification/confirmation regarding whether the rake cap will be reduced, or remain as it is, but it looks like it's the latter.
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12-27-2013 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by wutwutwutwutwut
Well I was hoping there'd be clarification/confirmation regarding whether the rake cap will be reduced, or remain as it is, but it looks like it's the latter.

It actually works out more now since the rake goes from US to Euro for example SNGS $200 were $10 US rake now its €10 Euro which is about $16 US
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12-27-2013 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by coon74
What kind of updates do you need? Official statements are found on skins' web pages, e.g. http://poker.williamhill.com/help/ipoker-updates/
When is this change start? as there's no mention just the new structure.
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12-29-2013 , 02:10 AM
Jan 6th is the announced date
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12-29-2013 , 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by no hablo lngles
It actually works out more now since the rake goes from US to Euro for example SNGS $200 were $10 US rake now its €10 Euro which is about $16 US
Has it actually been released anywhere that rake caps increased?

So far I have only seen that the rake caps for cash games remained the same and imo for sng-s and mtt-s it´s not actually an increased rake cap if the buy-in is raised as well. More like playing a little higher.

If anybody has a link which states that rake caps have been increased, please share.
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12-29-2013 , 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jaakkang
Has it actually been released anywhere that rake caps increased?

So far I have only seen that the rake caps for cash games remained the same and imo for sng-s and mtt-s it´s not actually an increased rake cap if the buy-in is raised as well. More like playing a little higher.

If anybody has a link which states that rake caps have been increased, please share.
http://poker.williamhill.com/help/ipoker-updates/
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12-29-2013 , 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by no hablo lngles
That is the one causing confusion.

Will the cash games rake structure stay the same?
Yes, the rake structure for EUR and GBP tables is in place to support our already ongoing EUR and GBP tables. Rake CAPS will be kept the same as they are today.

What do they exactly mean? Does it stay the same in value or it stays the same while changing the currency?
Imo can be interpreted both ways atm.
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12-30-2013 , 12:18 AM
The thread in nvg seems more lively, so will continue there.
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12-30-2013 , 01:18 AM
hey guys how is the sng traffic in ipoker?
only have played mtts there and have a good rakeback deal so any info would be helpful, also what times are best to grind sngs
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12-30-2013 , 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jaakkang
What do they exactly mean? Does it stay the same in value or it stays the same while changing the currency?
Imo can be interpreted both ways atm.
the rake cap stays the same per currency
on € tables if it was €3 b4 it will be €3 now
on £ tables if it was £3 b4 it will be £3 now

if u only played € & £ tables b4, this change doesnt affect u

if u played a lot of $ tables b4, then ur effective rake has increased since that $3 rake cap is now €3~$4 or £3~$5
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12-31-2013 , 12:50 AM
even though the $3 rake cap is now €3 its still pretty much the same as the tables are now EURO meaning 200US is now ~300
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12-31-2013 , 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ItsOnlyChips
the rake cap stays the same per currency
on € tables if it was €3 b4 it will be €3 now
on £ tables if it was £3 b4 it will be £3 now

if u only played € & £ tables b4, this change doesnt affect u

if u played a lot of $ tables b4, then ur effective rake has increased since that $3 rake cap is now €3~$4 or £3~$5
Ty!

I don´t know how such a simple thing has been managed to present in such a confusing way.
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12-31-2013 , 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by no hablo lngles
even though the $3 rake cap is now €3 its still pretty much the same as the tables are now EURO meaning 200US is now ~300
its not the same

consider a same size $100 pot (~€75, ~£60) on the 3 different tables

on the $ table, u pay $3 rake
on the € table, u pay ~$4 rake
on the £ table, u pay ~$5 rake
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12-31-2013 , 04:23 AM
i was thinking sngs
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12-31-2013 , 04:31 AM
we were discussing cash games, but ya sngs arent affected since it has a fixed rake proportional to buyin level
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12-31-2013 , 10:56 AM
is it normal that bet365 doesnt offer nl2 tables ?
is it normal that there r nearly 80% ratholers and midstackers if i would play fastfold-holdem nl5 ?

r u kidding me ? is that what ur understanding of good balanced ecology is ?
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01-01-2014 , 12:17 PM
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its not the same

consider a same size $100 pot (~€75, ~£60) on the 3 different tables

on the $ table, u pay $3 rake
on the € table, u pay ~$4 rake
on the £ table, u pay ~$5 rake
if u prefer to win ur 100 pots in usd. if ur a winner or a break even player, u rather not play w usd.
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01-01-2014 , 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MKarne
if u prefer to win ur 100 pots in usd. if ur a winner or a break even player, u rather not play w usd.
not sure what ur point is

whether ur a winning or losing player, its better to pay lower rake
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01-02-2014 , 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ItsOnlyChips
its not the same

consider a same size $100 pot (~€75, ~£60) on the 3 different tables

on the $ table, u pay $3 rake
on the € table, u pay ~$4 rake
on the £ table, u pay ~$5 rake
One thing to consider is that anyone on this network should have a decent RB scheme and you also earn higher RB on these higher raked pots.
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01-05-2014 , 05:43 AM
am I missing smth or you just really cannot buy-in for 100 bb on most of the tables? wtf?!?!
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