This is the thread Equity posts have always gone in, aside from those about cashouts.

In the email I received it's stated no contingency fee in case of file for bankruptcy. Can you please explain based on what the law firm would receive 30% of 30-50k?

Did you send your suggestion that law firm should pay bankruptcy proceeding costs and will receive a contingency fee to the lawyer?

I guess my point was (looking back phrased inarticulately) that it seems odd he is willing to accept $1500 to commence bankruptcy proceedings, but deemed working on a contingency basis not worth his time and claimed people were looking for a "free ride," which is inaccurate. Also, my point was it seems odd that the MO wouldn't be to advance the $1500 to commence bankruptcy proceedings and then receive contingency payments for recovered amounts. I'm also having trouble finding information on minimum court fees @ 750 Netherland Antillean Guilders per claimant.

-Boris

How would he receive contingency payments if the case will be then at the bankruptcy trustee?

You suggest that he is lying about the court fees and wants to defraud us by collect non existing court fees?

Here is an article from 2013 about a small claims court fee of NAf. 50 (US $27.50), where they also state that the regular fee is NAf. 450 (US $247,50) and up.

Game Protect claims to know who purchased Full Flush Poker February 2016.
They don't state the owner or their country, but you can sue criminal offenses in almost every country in this world. If you have evidence, it's basically only a question of time and money to be spend.

Albufeira,

What's your relationship to Player Protection?

Alb:

Obviously this is based in Curacao, so I am very unfamiliar with law there, and am basing my knowledge and assessment of the situation off of US law. In the US, bankruptcy courts can forgo fixed retainers and deem contingency fees "pre-approved arrangements" and suitable.

My only point is I would still be wary about advancing costs to this firm in Curacao. I will not be opting in, but if you have done your due diligence and think it is for the best, then be my guest.

-Boris

Looks like I got a shoutout on the Game-protect website as a "brain washer."

"Even though Full Flush is not a Game Protect qualified case, we would pay the costs from the money received. We are also willing to spend our time. But unfortunately and at the same time unbelievable, we did not receive one cent until today! No one contributed (for him cost free) with signing at a gambling site thru our affiliate links. And no one was willing to send Euro 9 per month from his pocket."

Laughable. Sad that literally everything associated with Equity Poker Network is a scam.

-Boris

Khan, I once asked you in this public thread to explain what you were shown or told by the members of FF in your personal interaction with them that led you to believe they were heading in the right direction. Why did you never respond to that? You made it seem like you were privy to first hand information that should make us all more confident to commit our time and energy to this site. Clearly you know some or at least one of the higher ups on a personal level. It doesn't make sense to me that you are playing the "clueless" card in terms of what the heck is going on.

They are one in the same. Seems like it atleast.

Put this behind you guys it's almost a New Year. No one is going to see their money we were all scammed.

honestly guys, it would probably be best to just write off any money u had on FF, there's like a 0.00001% chance you'll ever get a dime, sorry to say

Hi.I have nearly 50k(nick:kangaroo) on fullfush. I want to know something from fullfush information.Can i help me...

I remember you, you totally wrecked me at hu when I first started playing it lol.

Unfortunately, I don't think there's any way you can contact them. As far as anyone can tell, the company has folded entirely.

If you look through the thread, maybe you can find the names of of particular people who were in charge of the company when it seemed to go under. I would guess that somehow trying to contact these people is the only way to get definitive answers.

thanks you. it is a sorrow too big for me

you now have $0 USD on full flush sir

A terrible thing

Would be ironic if the aruba package that equity was holding seats for conicided with the ppc fiasco blowing up in nvg.

Willing to bet somehow they were

Hey All,

Clearly all money is lost on the sight - but received a long overdue response from former CEO Clive Archer who stepped down a few years ago, as I had reached out to him. If anything, he names 3 people at the front of this, and I think everyone should be wary of these 3 names if you ever see their name attached to a poker site, or are affiliated in the gambling industry.

"I am as upset as you over the demise of the Equity Poker Network. I actually essentially stopped consulting to the owners in 2014 as I had a bad health year (heart attack and then Swine Flu ) and was too ill to work. In 2015 the owners asked me to help them find new owners as the company needed investment. I helped them sell the company to a Spanish business . The business was sold for $1 on the understanding that the new owners would put $1.5million into the business as investment. I had no involvement after the deal was done (the existing owners wrote off all debt to them to make this deal happen). The new owners put no money into the business and it seems in fact took salaries and expenses out of the business. I do not know the details but it seems the software provider eventually turned them off for non payment for many months. I heard rumors of the staff trying to resurrect the business but I have seen nothing concrete. I wish I had better news and I could tell you how to get recompense but as far as I know there is no money at all in the business and no real assets. The individuals who caused this to happen were Jorge Barahona (ex Doyles Room), Victor Bigio (ex UB/ absolute) and Hugues Marion (ex Bodog). They have disappeared since this happened so I have no contact details for them. Victor lives in Canada, Jorge in Costa Rica and Hugues in Malta I believe. My understanding is that they took money from the business in the form of salaries and expenses over the 1 year of their ownership and owe money to players, affiliates, and service providers. The only way forward in my opinion is to go after them personally."

-Boris

Someone needs to find these people

Link?


Thanks for posting that Boris. Some of what you've posted, seemingly as a quote from Clive, jives with what I've learned during my investigation. However, some of it is in direct conflict with what I've been told by various sources.

There is more to the story regarding the software provider issue and who was involved. There also appear to be some discrepancies with observed facts. For example, some money was injected into the company and I think that is pretty readily apparent from the cashout surge early in 2016. However, it certainly wasn't 1.5mm.

The owners were taking salaries insofar as I can tell, relatively generous ones relative to say an average worker, but nothing crazy given this is the online gambling industry and they own(ed) a gambling company. However, some of the people listed will dispute their involvement and it will likely be difficult to prove otherwise. Two out of three of those people probably can not even be reached because I think they've fled the countries they were residing in.

I intend to release some of this information in the coming week or two. I won't be able to link to it here, but I'm sure someone will.

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Kahn

Or you could just post it here as well as on your site.

I agree that there definitely was a cashout surge in late 2015/early 2016, but unfortunately not to the tune of 1.5 million. I think if the new guys had invested the full 1.5 million they probably would have restored confidence in the site and eventually earned it back and then some, but they seemed more interested in investing as little as possible and then milking the site dry.

Really unfortunate for us and Mr. Archer that his health took a turn for the worse. Full Flush in 2014 was an absolute goldmine, the likes of which I hadn't seen post-Black Friday and it's unlikely we'll see anything like it again.