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05-03-2019 , 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by CRUDEFINDER
If true this would be a bigger scandal than the UB scandal and probably spell the death of online poker. But also if true needs to be fully investigated.
The death of all online poker? Cmon bro.


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Originally Posted by Cheapsuit5
Lol I sense sarcasm on it bringing down all of online poker. But it would no doubt be a turning point to have a somewhat major site proven to be silencing the players they are supposed to protect.

MOST of the time, these players who come on here and have their account closed etc. are not telling the full story of why they were banned. I am not picking sides, and not accusing this dude of ANYTHING, but just being around I've seen this before. If his story checks out then by all means let's get the pitchforks.

We just need to wait and see what evidence there is, because TBH it sounds like it could be pretty damning for BOL.
+1. Let's see the evidence. It's possible that he's 100% telling the truth, but more often than not people omit important details when they post these kind of stories.


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Originally Posted by Cheapsuit5
9 hour payout via BCH

Requested 2:06 eastern time
Received 10:32 eastern time.

Not bad - I thought I would have to wait since I missed their 1 p.m. cutoff for the day
Nice!


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Originally Posted by KyleMoho
Any suspected Bots playing tournaments on BOL?
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Originally Posted by Adjusted
This.

Anyone know if bots play MTTs on BOL?
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Originally Posted by viking1
Yes bots are playing on BOL. Several profiles support BOL . Just do a Google search. Not sure how profitable they are.
viking is correct, but I don't know of anybody who is actively tracking them on this network. Look at some of the high volume MTT grinders and compare their SharkScope info with bots found on other networks.


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Originally Posted by Bella
just played cash here for a couple hours. beyond depressing as these are the nittiest games I have ever played in.
That's what happens when a bunch of bot accounts are allowed to wipe out your recreational players day after day.

Evening US hours and weekends tend to see better cash games. In off-peak hours the games are full of bots, ROW rakeback grinders and one or two unfortunate recreational players.


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Originally Posted by 10887
If they would ban people complaining about bots we'd hear from them ages ago, not right now
They haven't banned me....yet. I guess they're waiting for my 1,000 post made about them in this thread.
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05-03-2019 , 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by MCAChiTown
The death of all online poker? Cmon bro.


Correct, but I meant as far as online poker ever being blanket legalized. The things that everybody kept claiming could never happen because sites just “made too much money” keep happening.


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05-03-2019 , 11:26 AM
Requested Neteller cashout, 2 days later recieved.
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05-03-2019 , 11:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheapsuit5
Lol I sense sarcasm on it bringing down all of online poker. But it would no doubt be a turning point to have a somewhat major site proven to be silencing the players they are supposed to protect.

MOST of the time, these players who come on here and have their account closed etc. are not telling the full story of why they were banned. I am not picking sides, and not accusing this dude of ANYTHING, but just being around I've seen this before. If his story checks out then by all means let's get the pitchforks.

We just need to wait and see what evidence there is, because TBH it sounds like it could be pretty damning for BOL.
I am open and honest...will talk about anything...was told my "behavior" is the reason why...then found out behavior was because of too many emails and chats. After that, I was told 3 different reasons as to why the account was locked. Behavior, lack of proof I provided(which absolutely flummoxed me based on everything I sent, documented, and provided), was given the "illegal software" response by a Sierra in live chat which was quickly walked back as 'she was reading another account,' and in asking regarding these and asking for an account summary which I have a right to, everyone deflected to someone else and told me not true what I was told or I will be contacted...Now this has gone on for months and I am still in the dark. Worst part of all, something like this happened over the summer and my account was locked for nearly 2 months. Then, I was ignored, then finally got answers as to why the account was closed...those responses were because of "chip-dumping," my account was being accessed in Russia, my account was compromised, and because my personal information was compromised. This caused to me to close accounts and have to check finances meanwhile no one answered me until I finally got a gentleman JG on the phone who said none of it was true and I was at a table where suspicious activity took place, and because I was at table, I was locked out. I received an apology and it was opened back up...But this is now the second time something like this has happened.

Does anyone play and have played windfalls? All those accounts are no longer active, ones I listed before...This is a massive cover up. While ACR, partypoker, and winamx, among others are doing right by there players, I am being silenced for the truth...Anyone else with insight, information, or similar situations...especially with those player names...

Lanarchie ILvUTAH RAPSODY UseBitCoin sexmachine pay4you SaTaNQUEEN PiroueTTe wygrana METAL1972 HSHSPower ShTBuBble

And, I don't want to think that these are BOL/SB related names...which would be even more troubling

Last edited by 121233; 05-03-2019 at 11:45 AM. Reason: wasn't finished
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05-03-2019 , 11:40 AM
I would advise you to start a new thread with all of the conversations and evidence. If you would prefer not to then at least post it in here. It might help your situation or it might help others, who are thinking about depositing here, make a more informed decision.
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05-03-2019 , 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by MCAChiTown
I would advise you to start a new thread with all of the conversations and evidence. If you would prefer not to then at least post it in here. It might help your situation or it might help others, who are thinking about depositing here, make a more informed decision.
I tried, it was moved...I am new on here...as a member at least, but I tried starting a new thread and it was moved here.
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05-03-2019 , 12:03 PM
You posted all communications from them to you and you to them as well as all of your evidence on the banned accounts? I don't see it in your post history.
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05-03-2019 , 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 121233
I am open and honest...will talk about anything...was told my "behavior" is the reason why...then found out behavior was because of too many emails and chats. After that, I was told 3 different reasons as to why the account was locked. Behavior, lack of proof I provided(which absolutely flummoxed me based on everything I sent, documented, and provided), was given the "illegal software" response by a Sierra in live chat which was quickly walked back as 'she was reading another account,' and in asking regarding these and asking for an account summary which I have a right to, everyone deflected to someone else and told me not true what I was told or I will be contacted...Now this has gone on for months and I am still in the dark. Worst part of all, something like this happened over the summer and my account was locked for nearly 2 months. Then, I was ignored, then finally got answers as to why the account was closed...those responses were because of "chip-dumping," my account was being accessed in Russia, my account was compromised, and because my personal information was compromised. This caused to me to close accounts and have to check finances meanwhile no one answered me until I finally got a gentleman JG on the phone who said none of it was true and I was at a table where suspicious activity took place, and because I was at table, I was locked out. I received an apology and it was opened back up...But this is now the second time something like this has happened.

Does anyone play and have played windfalls? All those accounts are no longer active, ones I listed before...This is a massive cover up. While ACR, partypoker, and winamx, among others are doing right by there players, I am being silenced for the truth...Anyone else with insight, information, or similar situations...especially with those player names...

Lanarchie ILvUTAH RAPSODY UseBitCoin sexmachine pay4you SaTaNQUEEN PiroueTTe wygrana METAL1972 HSHSPower ShTBuBble

And, I don't want to think that these are BOL/SB related names...which would be even more troubling

Your behavior? Or could it be that you don't know how to use paragraphs? If I was working support and you sent me a novel everyday without paragraphs, I'd block and ban you also!

It's very hard to understand and read what you're saying. Post some emails or conversations, so we can kinda understand the situation, because right now it's only one side.
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05-03-2019 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by DonWon
Your behavior? Or could it be that you don't know how to use paragraphs? If I was working support and you sent me a novel everyday without paragraphs, I'd block and ban you also!

It's very hard to understand and read what you're saying. Post some emails or conversations, so we can kinda understand the situation, because right now it's only one side.
Good day ******,



I hope and trust that this email finds you in good health.



Please note that I have reviewed your recent claims and can confirm that you were not promised any credits or call backs at any time. You also advised via our live chats on a few occasions that you have recorded transcripts of having been promised such funds, however have yet to provide us with the proof necessary to corroborate your claims, as this was requested from you on several occasions.



Due to the nature of your behavior and failure to provide us with the necessary information to support your claims, we have now permanently closed your poker account. Remaining poker balance has been transferred to your main account. You are welcome to continue playing and placing bets on Sportsbook. Our decision is final.



We wish you all the best!



Best Regards,

Management

That is final email that was sent to me
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05-03-2019 , 12:33 PM
[QUOTE=121233;55090579]Good day ******,



I hope and trust that this email finds you in good health.



Please note that I have reviewed your recent claims and can confirm that you were not promised any credits or call backs at any time. You also advised via our live chats on a few occasions that you have recorded transcripts of having been promised such funds, however have yet to provide us with the proof necessary to corroborate your claims, as this was requested from you on several occasions.



Due to the nature of your behavior and failure to provide us with the necessary information to support your claims, we have now permanently closed your poker account. Remaining poker balance has been transferred to your main account. You are welcome to continue playing and placing bets on Sportsbook. Our decision is final.



We wish you all the best!



Best Regards,

Management

That is final email that was sent to me

Dexter: That would depend on a independent review *****, there is unfortunately no direct answer I can give with no actual review. If there was in deed substantial evidence of cheating then yes your account will be refunded hypothetically speaking. If the review comes up with no substantial evidence then you would be informed accordingly thereof. These are all hypothetical though. But, once confirmed, security team will contact you with further information and refund.

Drake: I completely understand Sir, I did not know this information as I cannot confirm anything except the banning of the players reported. I am so sorry for the frustration *****, I will be adding this to my notification I have sent to Amy.
****: ok, but I really want to speak with someone now and close this mess...I have been waiting too long
Drake: I wish I could transfer you to someone above me Sir, unfortunately Management is not on live chat. Amy will be in contact with you Sir.


Looking at just one week as an example-(all windfalls 30 dollar entry with the exception of one 15 dollar entry)

March 1st
22:10 Pay4You
21:54 Pay4You
21:53 Pay4You
00:43 LaNarchie
00:22 LaNarchie
00:18 LaNarchie

March 2nd
23:34 Pay4You
22:52 Pay4You
22:48 Pay4You
22:43 Pay4You
22:40 Pay4You
22:36 Pay4You
21:52 Pay4You
08:22 IlvUtah
07:04 Rapsody
06:48 Rapsody
06:33 Rapsody
06:25 Rapsody
06:22 Rapsody
06:10 Rapsody

March 3rd
23:43 PiroueTTe
23:36 PiroueTTe

March 4th
07:06 PiroueTTe
00:09 PiroueTTe
00:00 SaTaNQueen

March 5th
06:42 PiroueTTe

March 7th
22:46 PiroueTTe
22:41 PiroueTTe
21:46 PiroueTTe
21:45 PiroueTTe


Some of the players they confirmed...I took every windfall I was in, documented all the pertinent information... Not once did and of those players play against each other...all went dark and disconnected at same time when they played and logged on at same time...betting patterns, sizes, and timing of folds, raises, calls were spot on to the tenth of the second...

I also sent them phone records, along with time, date, agent, and transcript of what was told to me...

Their claim...I didn't provide any of this...
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05-03-2019 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 121233
Good day ******,



I hope and trust that this email finds you in good health.



Please note that I have reviewed your recent claims and can confirm that you were not promised any credits or call backs at any time. You also advised via our live chats on a few occasions that you have recorded transcripts of having been promised such funds, however have yet to provide us with the proof necessary to corroborate your claims, as this was requested from you on several occasions.



Due to the nature of your behavior and failure to provide us with the necessary information to support your claims, we have now permanently closed your poker account. Remaining poker balance has been transferred to your main account. You are welcome to continue playing and placing bets on Sportsbook. Our decision is final.



We wish you all the best!



Best Regards,

Management

That is final email that was sent to me
It's really hard to find a way to help you. If I were you, I would gather all the information, write a rough draft, then have some proof read for you, then you can email and ask for it to be forwarded or reviewed by a supervisor or upper management.

That is probably the best chance you have right now.
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05-03-2019 , 03:48 PM
They didnt even seized your funds. We dont have a clue what you did wrong but feels like you did something to get your poker rights revoked.

I'd guess chip dumping or some ****
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05-03-2019 , 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 121233
You also advised via our live chats on a few occasions that you have recorded transcripts of having been promised such funds, however have yet to provide us with the proof necessary to corroborate your claims, as this was requested from you on several occasions.
Why didn't you provide them with those transcripts about the reimbursement funds they promised you? Can you post them here?

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Originally Posted by 121233
Due to the nature of your behavior and failure to provide us with the necessary information to support your claims, we have now permanently closed your poker account. Remaining poker balance has been transferred to your main account. You are welcome to continue playing and placing bets on Sportsbook. Our decision is final.
It sounds like you were being a pain in the ass and not providing the information they requested like I have asked for several times now. They were probably tired of dealing with you.

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Originally Posted by 121233
I also sent them phone records, along with time, date, agent, and transcript of what was told to me...

Their claim...I didn't provide any of this...
You haven't provided us with any of that either. Gather all of the information and evidence related to your situation and post it here.


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Originally Posted by DonWon
It's really hard to find a way to help you. If I were you, I would gather all the information, write a rough draft, then have some proof read for you, then you can email and ask for it to be forwarded or reviewed by a supervisor or upper management.

That is probably the best chance you have right now.
My thoughts exactly.
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05-04-2019 , 07:21 AM
How does the rakeback work on BOL? Is it just the daily race or can you exchange vip points for something?
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05-04-2019 , 09:32 AM
The VIP points can only be exchanged for tickets into certain tournaments. Check the description in the lobby for the tournament to see if you can use points to enter it. I believe you can also exchange the points for a little bit of cash if you play on the TigerGaming skin. I'm not sure what the exact exchange rate is.
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05-04-2019 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 121233

Their claim...I didn't provide any of this...


FYI, if you send emails with too big of a file size, the emails are auto-bounced/filtered and no one ever sees them. This is spam prevention, DDoS protection (reduces overall server load in attacks), etc.

Not saying this is what happened, but it is a possibility if you tried to send them a 10+ megabyte email or something.

--
Kahn
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05-05-2019 , 07:30 PM
Cashed out another thousand via bitcoin yesterday. It's been authorized, so, I'm sure they'll send it soon. About to cash in the sunday main event. Hopefully I take this sucker down.

This site is underrated.
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05-05-2019 , 08:46 PM
Even though you have only recently registered at 2+2 about a week ago and only have 11 posts of which virtually all are positive posts about BetOnline and their cashout procedures, I want to tell you that I for one appreciate the information you provide.
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05-05-2019 , 08:49 PM
I dont know how this bot d00ble still around i mean he play 16h a day never table select or sit out and he as pretty much the most obv bot stats i ever saw.
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05-05-2019 , 11:33 PM
I got 66th. Made a bad three bet against a big stack. I have noticed that the cash games, 1-2 or 2-5 have almost all players, whether, it's plo8 or hold em who are big regs. The tourney's have lots of players with one and two stars, meaning, they are casual players. I don't really play lower stakes hold-em, which, I guess is where the concern about the bots is.

So, on my 8,000 cashout, I eventually used coinbase to deposit into my bank account. Can somebody reccomend a different exchange? I'm thinking gemini, but I am a bit of a noob when it comes to crypto.

If I sound like a shill, it's because I ran 250 USD up to 11k in about 32 days.
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05-06-2019 , 05:43 AM
Congrats on running it up.
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05-06-2019 , 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by SuitedBaby
Even though you have only recently registered at 2+2 about a week ago and only have 11 posts of which virtually all are positive posts about BetOnline and their cashout procedures, I want to tell you that I for one appreciate the information you provide.
My initial thoughts were the same
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05-06-2019 , 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by alaric21
So, on my 8,000 cashout, I eventually used coinbase to deposit into my bank account. Can somebody reccomend a different exchange? I'm thinking gemini, but I am a bit of a noob when it comes to crypto.

If I sound like a shill, it's because I ran 250 USD up to 11k in about 32 days.
Watch out, once you run it up, they always hit the doomswitch on new players.... Just kidding

The normal method to use a wallet like blockchain then move it to Coinbase to withdraw it offline. Havent experienced or heard any issues doing that, any reason you want to avoid Coinbase?
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05-06-2019 , 11:17 AM
The fees were ridiculous. I just registered with gemini. For some reason on my 8000 cashout, i got 8130 deposited into my wallet. Moving from my wallet to coinbase to bank account, somehow 300 dollars disappeared (Coinbases fees). I only got 7800 into my bank account.
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05-06-2019 , 11:19 AM
I've been doing mostly sports, but the poker room isn't bad. I've decided to stick to tourney's. I think tourney's offer the most value for solid rec players with limited time to play. I'll leave the cash to the grinders.
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