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09-22-2018 , 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGodson
Yeah, I'm thinking it was a mistake too. It sped up again. Last night I had 12ish seconds to act. Now it is only 8 again. I just accidently folded QQ preflop and would have hit top set. I got up and left. I'm not going to grind with the speed it is currently at.

The hands per hour hasn't increased by that much either. It is pretty much the same only players accidently fold more often.

I think 15 seconds might be the perfect amount of time. Keeps people playing relatively quickly without giving them too much time to tank every hand.
Has anyone ever experienced the random zero time bank? Sometimes it fixes if you close out the table and open up again but sometimes it doesn't. I've had to end sessions for ridiculous reasons like the ones above. insta-folding huge made hands for me
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09-22-2018 , 11:12 PM
I suggest everyone complain about the Time Bank. This is ridiculous. The email for BetOnline is: poker@BetOnline.ag
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09-23-2018 , 04:11 AM
Lol, do not play you in this garbage dump, you have absolutely no respect for yourself?
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09-23-2018 , 12:22 PM
I just played a long session without getting the reduced time to act at all. Everything was good. I'm not sure if it was fixed or if it's just affecting people randomly.


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Originally Posted by joe64
Lol, do not play you in this garbage dump, you have absolutely no respect for yourself?
What are you talking about Joe? Can you please explain what issues you are seeing?

They have good software. They pay out quickly. The games are pretty good.

The only problem I can see is the bots. Every site has bots. There are significantly less bots in their NLHE cash games these days. I've seen many disappear over the last 6 months.

There are very few options for us players in the USA. I'd rather play on this network than at the others.

Last edited by MCAChiTown; 09-23-2018 at 12:27 PM.
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09-23-2018 , 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MCAChiTown
What are you talking about Joe? Can you please explain what issues you are seeing?
Firstly lack of security service. It's just disrespect for honest players, first of all to fishes
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09-23-2018 , 01:46 PM
I can understand your frustration with that aspect. Other than Stars I think most sites deserve poor ratings when it comes to security.
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09-23-2018 , 09:30 PM
how long have they been stealing from me?


https://imgur.com/a/N6aH9yf
changing a price that you know people will pay without realizing it, is stealing

charging $22 for addon in an $11 tournament is stealing

caveat emptor sure, but ****

how many weeks and other tournaments have i paid double for addon and for chips at a premium not discount on top of it??

****

Last edited by Mike Haven; 09-24-2018 at 06:48 AM. Reason: 2 posts merged
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09-23-2018 , 11:21 PM
I emailed BetOnline about the Time Bank issue. I got a canned response with a chart specifying the game type and the amount of time given. I am a 2/5 player and according to the chart I am supposed to get 12 seconds before the time bank is activated. In the bank I should have 40 seconds. Today at the tables I had 7 seconds before Time Bank and only 15 seconds time banked. I wont be able to play on the site until they fix this issue. If anyone else cares email them.
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09-23-2018 , 11:37 PM
End goal seems to be bots v. casuals.

I wouldn't mind the changes if they actually policed the bots in PLO, but now it's tougher for anyone playing more than 2-3 tables and the bots can just continue to operate as usual playing 4-6 tables for 8-12 hours in a row every day of the week and never worry about timing out.
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09-24-2018 , 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by apology7
I emailed BetOnline about the Time Bank issue. I got a canned response with a chart specifying the game type and the amount of time given. I am a 2/5 player and according to the chart I am supposed to get 12 seconds before the time bank is activated. In the bank I should have 40 seconds. Today at the tables I had 7 seconds before Time Bank and only 15 seconds time banked. I wont be able to play on the site until they fix this issue. If anyone else cares email them.
I think it's a glitch that is randomly affecting people at times. It's not happening to me in every session. It is happening pretty frequently though. Everyone that would like it fixed needs to record when it happens and send it to them in an email at poker@BetOnline.ag. Without a recording they refuse to escalate issues passed first level customer support.
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09-24-2018 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Fossilkid93
End goal seems to be bots v. casuals.

I wouldn't mind the changes if they actually policed the bots in PLO, but now it's tougher for anyone playing more than 2-3 tables and the bots can just continue to operate as usual playing 4-6 tables for 8-12 hours in a row every day of the week and never worry about timing out.

This is getting ridiculous at the PLO tables... I was 4 tabling for a little while earlier and came to the realization how it's not exactly "easy" per say to 4 table PLO... There are different meta dynamics that go on that are hard to pick up on whilst playing 4 tables; And recalling the action street by street starts to become quite the task... Now I'm no rain man but I can definitely keep track of a lot and have 2-4 tabled PLO for the past ~3yrs and always find my A game is most consistent 2 tabling; I'm sure others can relate...

I emailed support about a week ago with a few names I suspect to be bot accounts and to potentially be linked and prior to today I hadn't seen them playing at the same table; atleast never at the same time... I have somewhat regularly seen two of them at the same table... My suspicions to them being linked has to do with the fact that their hud stats are nearly idenctical; They are the only ones that never talk; And they'll play a table out if it gets heads up or 3 handed... I just don't see this as typical reg/human behavior whatsoever... Maybe I'm wrong



There is a 4th account that has same stats same behaviors... When I first discovered this (I am not the first) I was observing 3 accounts and then I became aware of 1 more... Thus far these are the only 4 accounts I've seen like this at PLO10... I have some growing suspicions of a few above PLO10 that will develop as I implement those tables more... Who knows how deep this rabbit hole goes...

Last edited by sjuklingur; 09-24-2018 at 05:39 PM.
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09-25-2018 , 12:52 AM
Damn, that's one tough PLO10 table.
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09-25-2018 , 05:37 PM
so I just got capcha'd twice today making sure I wasnt a bot. anybody else get this? I answered incorrectly first time because the numbers were not clear and it sat me out but got the next two right. hopefully they do this more to everybody and we get to see less bots now
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09-25-2018 , 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by kinnaly612
so I just got capcha'd twice today making sure I wasnt a bot. anybody else get this? I answered incorrectly first time because the numbers were not clear and it sat me out but got the next two right. hopefully they do this more to everybody and we get to see less bots now


Haven't seen this in the PLO streets today... Hopefully we will though
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09-25-2018 , 06:52 PM
Captcha's were first mentioned ITT some time ago, but AFAICT were only reported by a few people and not very widespread. I have never seen one before personally. I don't understand why they don't use them more.
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09-25-2018 , 07:11 PM
Seems like this could be easy to get around though no ?
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09-25-2018 , 10:23 PM
This time bank change is nuts. There is no time to make any decisions. I'm sometimes getting less than 10 seconds.
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09-26-2018 , 01:20 AM
I've played on this network for the last several years. I have seen 1 captcha, about 1-3 weeks ago. It was somewhat difficult(its timed + unclear/distorted+the surprise of normal routine being broken) but I did get it right the first time, and haven't seen it since.
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09-26-2018 , 05:08 AM
As someone who doesn't really mind faster time banks, I think they went a bit too far on this one - They didn't just shave off 1 or 2 seconds it feels like the bank is activated around 8 secondds and the time bank itself is like 10 seconds. Should be 10 seconds then time bank of 20 or something like that. Some hands take a bit more time but I understand the faster the hands go the more rake they take in, sooo...
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09-26-2018 , 06:55 AM
And once again I will remind :
1) ALL sit n go 100$+ you will play with colluders, always
2) Half sit n go 30-60$ you will play with colluders
3) Most heads up sit n go regulars is bots or use unlegal soft(semi-bots)
Network doing nothing, my suggestion to add to the T&C "I agree play versus colluders and bots" was not approved (
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09-26-2018 , 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by kinnaly612
so I just got capcha'd twice today making sure I wasnt a bot. anybody else get this? I answered incorrectly first time because the numbers were not clear and it sat me out but got the next two right. hopefully they do this more to everybody and we get to see less bots now
That's good to hear. I got one in the Spring, but none since. I only saw one bot account on this afternoon in the nlhe cash games. I'm guessing a few probably got caught and perhaps the others were informed to be cautious.

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Originally Posted by Fossilkid93
Captcha's were first mentioned ITT some time ago, but AFAICT were only reported by a few people and not very widespread. I have never seen one before personally. I don't understand why they don't use them more.
I agree that it would be nice to see the captcha more often. It sucks that it can happen during a hand with the shorter time to act, but if it gets rid of most of the bots then it's worth it.

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Originally Posted by sjuklingur
Seems like this could be easy to get around though no ?
It's obviously not foolproof, but it's better than doing nothing.

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Originally Posted by IgnatiusJR
This time bank change is nuts. There is no time to make any decisions. I'm sometimes getting less than 10 seconds.
It is absolutely ridiculous. Some tables I'm starting with 60% of the meter. Some times I'm getting the old time to act. When I get the shorter one it doesn't go back to full when you get 3/4/5bet. You have to insta decide or risk getting folded. I won't sit at more than 2 tables right now. It needs to be fixed asap.

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Originally Posted by madmansam
I've played on this network for the last several years. I have seen 1 captcha, about 1-3 weeks ago. It was somewhat difficult(its timed + unclear/distorted+the surprise of normal routine being broken) but I did get it right the first time, and haven't seen it since.
It was very surprising. The coolest part for me was finishing mine and watching all of the known bot accounts time out and disappear.

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Originally Posted by p0ker_n00b
As someone who doesn't really mind faster time banks, I think they went a bit too far on this one - They didn't just shave off 1 or 2 seconds it feels like the bank is activated around 8 secondds and the time bank itself is like 10 seconds. Should be 10 seconds then time bank of 20 or something like that. Some hands take a bit more time but I understand the faster the hands go the more rake they take in, sooo...
I loved the previous allotted time. It was quick, but enough time for most decisions if you're paying attention. I always hated the ridiculously long time to act that Bovada had. It made their tournaments unbearable at times.

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Originally Posted by joe64
Network doing nothing, my suggestion to add to the T&C "I agree play versus colluders and bots" was not approved (
LoL. Thanks for the info Joe. I don't play SNGs, but I will let other people know if they ask about playing them.
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09-27-2018 , 04:26 AM
Late night session was blessed with the normal time to act. I wonder why it's randomly doing that?

I noticed a couple more bot accounts on in the late night session, but still less than the usual amount.
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09-27-2018 , 09:07 AM
Went to login today and it said account blocked. I called cs to inquire and cs guy tells me I have multiple accounts. Which I definitely do not! I signed up about a month ago and called to get help depositing...there was an old email and an account already existing but we changed it over to my new email and she got me set up. I have deposited and made 1 withdrawal since then without any "review" Now on withdrawl 2 theyre denying me and telling me I have multiple accounts. I told them I only have 1 account # and 1 email and 1 nickname. He refused to provide me with a diff account # or email or nickname that I am presumably using? Feels really weird to be accused of something you didnt do. They said review takes 72 hours but I need this withdrawl now. I'm calling cs back in an hour to talk to a supervisor there. Anyone have any experience with this?
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09-27-2018 , 10:21 PM
25NL table had 3 bots on one table...
50NL I think a couple new ones are showing up..
I've played over 130k hands last 2 months and never been captchad once...
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09-27-2018 , 11:55 PM
I wasn't on much today, but I did see most of the usual suspects back at the tables when I checked. That's unfortunate.
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